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Made in us
Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice





This will be a good one!

 

I am sick of the attitude on DAKKA about GW and the pricing issues that we never seem to get away from.  All you guys do is moan and complainer like a 10 year old girl about how high everything is and what a lousy job they do. 

 

Look at it this was…….How much does a tank of gas cost?  $60-70 for me.  About the same price of 2 boxes of marines at your local GW store.  What do you get for that money?  The enjoyment of modeling the space marines in the way you want.  Painting them and finally playing and building an army list?  Years of fun and enjoyment!!!!  By the way that tank of gas last about a week right?    

 

Go buy a cup of coffee every morning?  I do and spend about $30 a week on it.

 

I just started a new empire army last month.  So far I have bought 3 of the new army boxes, 4 boxes of the crazy guys,  4 boxes of great swords, old war alter, 3 boxes of the detachments squads. Steam tank, and some special characters.  About $1450 so far.  A lot of money?  Yes it is but it is my hobby and I enjoy it.  Instead of complaining about it so much just play with what you got. 

   
Made in us
Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice





I wonder how quick this will be locked?
   
Made in ca
Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!






Soviet Kanukistan

People complain because they liked the hobby but GW seems bent on ruining their experience.  This is not unlike moaning that the management of your -insert favourite sports franchise here- traded away -insert some key player here- and replaced him/her with absolute garbage.

   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




We love the hobby enough to comment on its inherent flaws and push for improvement. Prices, quality, rules, GT's - these are all things we hope will change for the better.

And judging by your secong post in this thread, you're just trolling and looking for attention. You got it. Now do us a favor and lurk more.

   
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[DCM]
Master Frag






Beast Coast

Posted By Tigerone on 01/08/2007 11:59 AM
I wonder how quick this will be locked?

Well I guess it depends on how nice everyone acts (or doesn't.)

This isn't the Bolter and Chainsword or the late Eye of Terror.  On Dakka people are allowed to post their opinions, even if they are negative.  I think it's the whole freedom of speech appreciation thing.  That includes my opinion (GW prices suck, their release schedule sucks, etc.) and yours (It's not so bad, why complain?, etc.) and everyone else's opinions as well (as long as they're Family Inquisition-friendly.)

So my response to you complaining about other people complaining:

Deal with it.  Differing opinions (including your own) is what makes Dakka a forum worth reading.  I don't come here to get patted on the back because everyone agrees (or their posts get locked and deleted like on the B&C) and if that's what you're expecting, you're going to be disappointed.


   
Made in ca
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant





Halifax, Nova Scotia

If people never complain/criticize/stop buying then there's no incentive to improve.

You like the hobby and feel the price is fair. That's really great! Serious, I'm glad you found something you enjoy and that works for you.

I love Warhammer and 40K too. It's because of that that I get annoyed by some of the things GW does. Some of the whining can be unfair, but people are entitled to their opinions.
   
Made in us
The Last Chancer Who Survived





Norristown, PA

I'm actually kind of OK with the price too. I spend about $50 a month give or take a few, there's been exceptions where I splurged a little but overall I try to limit myself to $50.. Sure, I don't get as much as I used to for $50, but then, I don't have the extra time to build/paint/play with extra stuff, so I guess it all balances out in the end. Plus, compared to the quality of the models we have now vs 13 years ago when I started playing, I'm glad to see that even though prices have gone up a good chunk of that does seem to get put back into the hobby and things have improved a LOT. As long as the quality continues to improve, I feel the ends are justified by the means. I know I'm in a minority here saying this, and I'm no GW fanboy or anything, but I'm happy getting what I'm paying for. When I feel it's no longer worth what I'm paying, I'll stop

   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






San Jose, CA

This will be a good one!

I am sick of the attitude on DAKKA about GW and the pricing issues that we never seem to get away from. All you guys do is moan and complainer like a 10 year old girl about how high everything is and what a lousy job they do.


So...you're trolling. Good for you. Perhaps additional negative comments regarding the masculinity of posters would further your ends?

Look at it this was??.How much does a tank of gas cost? $60-70 for me. About the same price of 2 boxes of marines at your local GW store. What do you get for that money? The enjoyment of modeling the space marines in the way you want. Painting them and finally playing and building an army list? Years of fun and enjoyment!!!! By the way that tank of gas last about a week right?


Two words: opportunity cost. I am fortunate enough to work in a well-compensated field; there is no question I can afford this hobby. However, it's not a single-player game, is it? So those people who hang out at my FLGS, who don't get to write patents for a living, get to decide between playing this (expensive) game, or something like Warmachine, with a lower baseline cost. They've largely chosen warmachine, meaning my 40k collection gets very little use.

So now, I've spent the money and am not playing the game.

From there, the logical next step is to NOT spend the money, in order to continue NOT playing the game.

Pretty simple, isn't it?

Additionally, trying to compare necessities (gas money for car, used to get to/from work and procure groceries) with hobby costs is meaningless. I pay rent more expensive than the vast majority of housing payments in the country; does that mean I should be able to afford even more minis?

Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? 
   
Made in ch
Dakka Veteran




Planet of Dakka

Although it kind if pissed me off also,recently i managed to round up my chaos 40k army enough to have a balance list and the options to change it when i feel like it.
Yes the prices are getting unfriendly,but considering how long people like us have been on the system,the price hike hurts us mainly by just making us long for a new army that we can bother to spend lots on.
We do play with what we have,and again,comparing needs/wants is a little bit exagerated no?


http://www.petitiononline.com/damnatus/ 
   
Made in us
Clousseau





Wilmington DE

Sick? Who's sick? You're sick? Dude, what are you DOING here if you're sick? Trying to get the rest of us infected? Next you'll have people out on sick days or worse, sneezing up the place like you, mucus boy. Go home. Seriously, go home, and take a sick day. Call a freakin' doctor. Take some medicine. Watch some daytime TV. And don't come back until you feel better.

*grumble grumble* what is this, freakin' Outbreak? Come in stupid monkey-bite sick. That's all we need.

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Plastictrees



Amongst the Stars, In the Night

It's nice and all that you find the prices nice, quality up and GW the greatest thing since sliced bread. However, the market disagrees with you to the point that GW has been suffering a steady loss in revenue, a massive decline in units sold (wonder why that is), and a generally grim business outlook thanks to bonheaded management mistakes. Like constantly raising prices far, far beyond the pace of inflation and holding similarly arrogant and contemptuous attitudes towards it's customers as you hold towards Dakka (if not worse).

OT Zone: A More Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany
The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide







I guess GW calls you Bob.

And by you, I meant Nyarly

At least, I wish I could call Nyarly Bob

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Get your own Dakka Code!

"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude 
   
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[ADMIN]
President of the Mat Ward Fan Club






Los Angeles, CA


Tigerone:

Here's a hint. Starting a thread off with a generalized insult (to anyone) is almost always going to result in your topic being locked, as they are clearly an attempt to rile people up and create a flame war.


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yakface's 40K rule #2: Friends don't let friends start a MEQ army.
yakface's 40K rule #3: Codex does not ALWAYS trump the rulebook, so please don't say that!
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