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Oh I agree.

But I give absolutely zero feths about how much money Mr Roundtree makes, so I don't care for that business model.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
30k generally grows as 40k for people who are tired of GW's gak.
Wedding it to GW's gak seems to contradict the point.

100% agree

If they mess with 30k there's nothing left to fall back on other than titanicus, and even that their support as of late has been terrible. It's at the point where battle bling is giving people more to be excited about than gw, which only further compounds gw's latest ip jihad because they don't even care about the markets they have or making cool stuff anymore.

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 Pacific wrote:
So I take it the blog post above is more reputable as a source than the 'some dude on Reddit' rumours posted before ?

Natfka / Faeit used to have a good reputation, but I've not heard much from them recently.

Good reputation as clickbait stealing every rumour from elsewhere and inventing others to get ad income.

Natfka / Faeit rumours are automatically false until proven otherwise... which does not happen, them and Spikeybits, anything that comes from either is trash.

shame the old rumour tracker was never kept up

Imperial Fists Praetors (& Legion Graviton Guns) coming next week -

Those graviton guns look warped.

Glad to see the graviton guns back.

Edit. Odd that these appear to be Sons of Horus coloured hands where as only Iron Hands can take full squads of them. Maybe a change coming?

I really like the IF Praetors.

 zedmeister wrote:
Glad to see the graviton guns back.

Edit. Odd that these appear to be Sons of Horus coloured hands where as only Iron Hands can take full squads of them. Maybe a change coming?

Or it’s the same image pasted ten times (or however many are in the pack).

The Ultramarines Legion Praetors are Ideal for Avenging Calth - WarCom

They're very nice, but was I wrong in thinking that today's preview was meant to be Black Templars?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're very nice, but was I wrong in thinking that today's preview was meant to be Black Templars?

It's the 'regular' Legion Dispatch 30k article. Hopefully they'll be a 40k one later.

Sort of mixed feelings on these praetors. The last few praetors have been fantastic, and these guys just seem too busy. Maybe it's the paint job too?

Whoa those are excellent as well. Can’t wait to see what they do with Iron Hands!

Not really digging the "Honest Abe" beard. Other than that, very Marine-y, nothing too special about them.

There's something about the smaller head on the Terminator that I really like. I wonder if the head is slightly smaller or the armor is slightly larger as they continue to tweak the scale?

 GaroRobe wrote:
Sort of mixed feelings on these praetors. The last few praetors have been fantastic, and these guys just seem too busy. Maybe it's the paint job too?

It *may* be that they look more like minis from the main GW studio, rather than FW models? The aesthetic is slightly different to what they usually produce.

These guys definitely have that "every surface must be smeared with detailed doodads" design aesthetic that 40k marines usually have.

It's the Eavy Metal paint job more than the sculpts I think. They've been imitating the bright colours with hard lines and near-zero weathering style since Inferno. Those Praetors look like they were yoinked from the GW webstore, not (old) FW.

I like both smurfs but PA one is better.

They're busier than I generally prefer but I like the UMs here, with the exception of the painter's choice to make it look like there's a seam around the beards so it looks like they're wearing fake facial hair (esp. the terminator).

I like the more practical look of most 30k guys. Which these guys are not. Would look great in a 40k army though.

 Nevelon wrote:
I like the more practical look of most 30k guys. Which these guys are not. Would look great in a 40k army though.

With a couple of tweaks and parts from the original the PA one would make a great base for a Sicarius conversion


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On another note. Why are so many things no longer available on the FW store?

For example Guilliman and the invictus suzerains are listed as such despite the Praetor article today giving a link to the site for that last product!

No wolves on Fenris wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
I like the more practical look of most 30k guys. Which these guys are not. Would look great in a 40k army though.

With a couple of tweaks and parts from the original the PA one would make a great base for a Sicarius conversion

I agree. I love the look of them, and if I didn’t already have more officers then a 40k chapter should have, might grab them.

Just a bit busy.

Well, at least resin is easier to modify if you want to remove some details IME.

I just can't get over the shoddy basing job on them ultras. Like, did they even bother gluing the terminator one to the base? The rock is floating

 tauist wrote:
Well, at least resin is easier to modify if you want to remove some details IME.

I just can't get over the shoddy basing job on them ultras. Like, did they even bother gluing the terminator one to the base? The rock is floating

Not neccessarily. Well known that gw models for studio are often not glued. Mhile i don't know it applies to model for base wouldn't bb surprise if it would be not glued

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're very nice, but was I wrong in thinking that today's preview was meant to be Black Templars?

OT, but the Templars article has just gone up.

The Fist characters were superb. These UM ones, not so much.

Not a criticism personally of the Cataphractii Ultramarine sculpt, but I do seem to notice some aspects for 40k Gravis design in there. The cog-teeth design on the boots and the three small grooves in the breastplate under the gorget eagle specifically look like elements of Gravis armour?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Not a criticism personally of the Cataphractii Ultramarine sculpt, but I do seem to notice some aspects for 40k Gravis design in there. The cog-teeth design on the boots and the three small grooves in the breastplate under the gorget eagle specifically look like elements of Gravis armour?

It's actually the opposite - the Cog-teeth design on the boots of the Gravis Armour is taken from the design of Cataphractii Terminators, they did it first.