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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Did you see my response, re: plastic cement? Sometimes they make stupid-small pieces and very rarely they actually get a join wrong, but I've got basically no complaints about their HIPS.

I did. As I said in that reply, I've got a different method of filling seams which I find is neater, but more time consuming.

Well, sorry, but I don't think it's their fault that you're using more difficult tools. I mean, if you used an electric sander and 16 grit pads to clean your minis, it'd be hard to clean them well, but that wouldn't be the mini company's fault.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Well, sorry, but I don't think it's their fault that you're using more difficult tools. I mean, if you used an electric sander and 16 grit pads to clean your minis, it'd be hard to clean them well, but that wouldn't be the mini company's fault.

I'm using a product designed to fill gaps in HIPS models to fill gaps in HIPS models. I'm not sure why you're picking a fight over this? Sure, it's longer than overfilling with plastic cement so it spews out when you join the peices together, but the end result is also neater.

It doesn't matter how you do it with a HIPS model, it's something you need to do. Some ways are easier than others, but the goal is the same - to not have gaps.

Man, you're the one with the sprawling posts, who just suggested I don't know how to build things. I'm not some 10 year old pouring glue all over my details. I use a bottle with a needle applicator and it works plenty well with no effort, and you're the one griping about it being a pain.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
who just suggested I don't know how to build things.

Which we clarified as a misunderstanding. Then you suggested I don't know how to.

The seams in Wyrds HIPS are pretty bad. You don't get seams like that with GW stuff. Is it a different plastic?

 ImAGeek wrote:
The seams in Wyrds HIPS are pretty bad. You don't get seams like that with GW stuff. Is it a different plastic?

Pretty sure it's the same stuff. It just comes down to knowing how to cut the model for casting and accepting that some areas might been to lose detail to keep the part count low. GW got very good at hiding the seams. They're there, but they're along things like armour joins, not just right up the side of the model. It's worse on Malifaux models because they're reluctant to sacrifice detail or pose for ease of casting, so where GW will cut, say, legs to be one peice for both, Wyrd will have two or more peices to preserve something that would require sliding core in a plastic mold. Or GW will just accept the lower detail where it's causing complications.

I like both outcomes. I dislike GWs model aesthetic these days but their skill at cutting models and tooling molds is pretty great. Wyrds models can be a pain to build but I prefer the end result.

Latest update for The Other Side, with the pledge manager up, they have made now 377k so Champion models are free to the Commander and above pledges now. Pledge manager remains open to April. so hoping they can reached Binh and Thrace.



https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1334239018/the-other-side-9/posts/1814618

Someone snapped a picture of plastic base toppers that apparently Wyrd is going to be producing soon. Depending on the price, this is a great idea!


Also, some new TOS stuff:


Also, some new TOS stuff and what may be Malifaux miniatures considering they're on lipped+beveled bases:


Source:
https://twitter.com/LeodisGames/status/842786702167105536
https://twitter.com/LeodisGames/status/842786612673175555/

Those base toppers look like hard plastic possibly.

Hopefully they offer up a good deal on them, as I'm starting to run low on my CMON micro arts ones.

Still would be tempted by The Other Side models if they end up seeing more reasonable prices than what the suggested retail prices were.

Always good to see *actual* models too - thanks!

i have tons of Wyrd's metal base toppers...
i really like them
plastic ones look even better...
i can see myself getting all of them...

after working with Wyrd's multi-part HIPS models, they put me off buying their minis...
i'll just stick to my old metal ones...
those base toppers will definitely earn Wyrd some of my money again, though...

thanks for the update, Absolutionis

cheers
jah

Another email from Wyrd, post kickstarter tracking for stretch goals has exceeded 400k. 3rd adjunct is in. Still about a month to go before they close up the pledge manager, so we may hit 450k for the free LE model as well.

More production miniature previews - Cults Stalking Portals. This is fresh out of production casting apparently after Aaron spent some time throwing them at a wall.

The portal miniature looks great for what it is, but I hope there is more than one sculpt. Malifaux has been pretty good at multiple sculpts for even their larger miniatures. Especially in a game where you're required to take three on a single base, repeat sculpts would look really bad.

There's three sculpts, so each base will have 3 unique models. That was the first they had run through production. Most other units are 5 unique sculpts across 9-10 models (5 sculpts, 9/10 models), but Cult of the Burning man squads are enough unique sculpts that each entire squad will be all unique models (10 models, 10 sculpts). They had a lot of fun sculpting Burning Man stuff.

That sculpt really makes me want to see Willow again.



Do any of the titans resemble the eborsisk?

The Cults Titan is the Gorysche. Basically a nightmarish Hydra.

That's a really stylish sculpt. I'll have to keep my eye on it when retail drops. Thanks.

 Absolutionis wrote:
The portal miniature looks great for what it is, but I hope there is more than one sculpt. Malifaux has been pretty good at multiple sculpts for even their larger miniatures. Especially in a game where you're required to take three on a single base, repeat sculpts would look really bad.

Yup 3 unique sculpts:



There is a humanoid face in one of them, but I think its supposed to be some giant or something...not sure on the scale.

Some more production minis.

The Frenzy and Stalking portal (one sculpt of each, each is a set of 3)


Mixed. Looks like a Barbed Creeper, Yarazi and 3 assorted Burning man.mutants.


Barbed Creeper and what looks like 2 Striped Skulkers.

 -Loki- wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
The seams in Wyrds HIPS are pretty bad. You don't get seams like that with GW stuff. Is it a different plastic?

Pretty sure it's the same stuff.

It isn't. Wyrd's kits are pure polystyrene which is fairly brittle. GW has a different formula they use which makes their plastic more flexible. Try bending a long section of sprue of each type and you'll see what I mean.

As for the seams, I've never had a problem with Wyrd's kits fitting properly. Wyrd's kits can be quite unintuitive as to how parts are supposed to connect and that's likely the source of most problems but once you get the part oriented correctly the fit is usually precise. I've not seen how their PVC kits fit together so I can't comment on those.

On their HIPS, yeah, using plastic cement and I've never had a problem with their seams.

Their PVC is, eh, not amazing. Suffers from the same stuff most does like shallow detail and a little shrinkage issues, rather than being epic like Journey's was.

 Breotan wrote:
Wyrd's kits can be quite unintuitive as to how parts are supposed to connect and that's likely the source of most problems but once you get the part oriented correctly the fit is usually precise.

By Yan Lo's beard, that's quite an exaggeration!

Some of the earlier plastics I thought had crappy gaps and misaligned parts. I put together some of the Arcanist critters Marcus comes with and NONE of them aligned. It was horrible. Waste of money. Almost put me off Malifaux completely. Probably should've contacted Wyrd about it, but that was quite some time ago...

however I've built quite a lot of the 2E plastics and I've had no issues with putting things together. Don't even bother checking online for how to get it all built even.

Haven't had problems with recent kits misaligning, but their kits have always been better off with instructions. I recall assembling an Oiran's head before the earrings, and I had to slice the earrings-bit apart to get it to fit. Mouse from Ironsides's box also needed to be assembled in the correct way. Yan Lo's beard and the Freikorps Trunk are infamous for being difficult to assemble.

However, having recently assembled the Shadow Emissary and Rollins Black's box, Wyrd have gotten so much better. Everything fits perfectly with zero problems. Their kits are simply more advanced than the typical GW kits with large flat portions.

Excited about the Master upgrades. Really looking forward to potentially getting Lady J on the table again in particular!

Speaking of their plastic, I was assembling a Brutal Emissary last night, and ye gads, the cage assembly was just frustrating. I tried putting the cage bars on first and then putting the man inside. Didn't work very well. Tried putting man inside then cage bars, also didn't work very well. And the multiple layers of the cage were just too annoying to glue.

Wyrd has issues with prioritizing no undercuts over a sane number of pieces...