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 Fajita Fan wrote:

Tomorrow I’ll prime 7 little Rhinos, next week I’ve got a Thunderhawk and LR set up to print. Don’t ask why I’m spending so much time on basing vehicles instead of painting my titans.

perhaps you feel like i do; it is more fun to paint small stuff then big stuff

Dude I haven’t put paint on a titan since the summer.

know what you mean.

took my reaver out a few weeks ago, stood on my desk for 5 days and then i put back where i found it. zero inspiration and will to finish the repaint.
but that goes for all my minis as of late so guess that means im on a undetemind hobby break.


on a different note, saw FW are about to drop the last warlord weapons so i guess everything has been released now.

I don’t like them to be honest.

Painted up my mini Custodes tanks, the details aren’t great so highlighting was hard. The Caladius turrets are just machine guns meant for Gaslands because the actual turret is way too frail for an FDM printer like ours. Also started my IW Rhinos.

smexxy

small heds up btw folks, there is a strategem card in the november issue of WD, called the miracle of mars. (1 time use free reactor cooldown at the start of your damage controll phase, 2D10 +5 determins how effective it is. cost is 3.)

Roight, proper pics from the last week's hurdle coming together at the demonstration table!


I went to Tracon Hitpoint, a small gaming convention at Tampere, and demoed some 7-8 games of AT over the weekend. Lots of folks came to see and compliment the visual display, some quite convinced they might buy into the game too after seeing it in action. A resounding success, almost as grand as Edax Rerum's heroic action in one game where I managed to first in a single volley of bolt and plasma to kill a Hound from zero to silenced with four criticals, next turn run under a Reaver's shields and do the same thing to it AND survive to tell the tale even as the third opponent tried to avenge its comrades but only managed to take Edax to three crits on its legs. Brutality


I went with a Reaver + 2 Hounds on both sides, as three moving parts are required for proper tactical decisions on the field, games took between 1-2 hours depending on the players. Felt good, will do again, though next scenery projects will include ruins and glowing craters too. Some height for Warlord LOS-blocking also required, though for demos this setup worked very well. Some hard blocks, lots of -2 and difficult terrain to tackle.


These pictures really benefit from you clicking them larger. Hope you enjoy them too.

very nice table, nice to see some trees for once. doing a knight vs knight army on it i bet would be a blast.

i dont think you need a denser table, as it might make moving the models around harder, you just need taller stuff as you said to be able to hide the warlords and reavers.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
very nice table, nice to see some trees for once. doing a knight vs knight army on it i bet would be a blast.

i dont think you need a denser table, as it might make moving the models around harder, you just need taller stuff as you said to be able to hide the warlords and reavers.

Yeah, densitywise the amount of stuff feels good already. I'm thinking of some hills and cliffs with inbuilt structures that rise over Warlords as well as some simpler foothills that can be placed under these buildings so that the result looks more like a real, living outpost built over rolling terrain rather than a urban hab-block made of skyscrapers.

btw, im mindstorming about a knight force, can they take titans as reinforcments or they limited to using knights only?

The list doesn’t specifically say they can take extra titans the way a titan maniple can but it also doesn’t explicitly say they can’t. I’m about 50/50 with understanding the intent behind some of GW’s rules but the main rulebook says maniples may take additional titans, the household rules don’t mention this. Molech makes it seem like the titan battle group rules are entirely separate (last sentence):

MEETINGENGAGEMENT
This is the standard Matched Play mission for Adeptus Titanicus. The players will decide a Battle Rating and plan their forces accordingly, as described previously in this book for a Household force, or in the Adeptus Titanicus rulebook for a Titan battlegroup.

So the way I read that is a titan maniple can take additional titans and knight support banners while the Molech household list doesn’t include that rule and only lets you take freeblades.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
btw, im mindstorming about a knight force, can they take titans as reinforcments or they limited to using knights only?

Yes, you can have Titans as support for a household force.

Was that FAQed? I haven’t printed them in awhile.

Made some progress on the red marble and the vehicles.


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LOL I just realized that by gluing magnets to the bottom of my bases along the edges means that some polarities push the titans out of B2B. Sharing voids requires rotating them so they don’t grab onto one another or push each other away.

 Fajita Fan wrote:
Was that FAQed? I haven’t printed them in awhile.

I don't recall it being so. I forget the page in Doom of Molech where it mentions Titans supporting a household force, but it was pointed out back in April in a discussion here on Dakka. But its pretty the same as for a maniple being supported by additional non-maniple titans.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Fajita Fan wrote:
Was that FAQed? I haven’t printed them in awhile.

I don't recall it being so. I forget the page in Doom of Molech where it mentions Titans supporting a household force, but it was pointed out back in April in a discussion here on Dakka. But its pretty the same as for a maniple being supported by additional non-maniple titans.

if it is written it is well hidden.
read the household rules today and the word titan is not even mentioned there, and the FAQ dont even have a Molech section.

I looked for it this morning and I didn’t see mention of using titans with a household force. The main rules mention additional titans and household support banners, the Molech rules only mention freeblades, then the Molech rules make them sound like separate, distinct lists. That’s what I copy/pasted above.

TBH I don’t know that you have the points to build titans into a knight household list without neutering your lances. I can pull up the points later when I’m not on mobile. Personally I wouldn’t have a problem with someone squeezing in a Warhound or Reaver into a knight list but then I’d just start shooting that on turn one.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 Fajita Fan wrote:
Was that FAQed? I haven’t printed them in awhile.

I don't recall it being so. I forget the page in Doom of Molech where it mentions Titans supporting a household force, but it was pointed out back in April in a discussion here on Dakka. But its pretty the same as for a maniple being supported by additional non-maniple titans.

if it is written it is well hidden.
read the household rules today and the word titan is not even mentioned there, and the FAQ dont even have a Molech section.

It was indeed well hidden and most of us missed it until - I forget the member's name(I'm now wondering if it was me?) - someone pointed it out and I don't think it was in the household rules section of Doom Of Molech. If memory serves it was in a blue-box bit somewhere, and it put to rest a myth that a Household was too weak against a Titan force because it could include Titans as support in the same way a Maniple can take freeblade banners and additional non-maniple titans.

If in any doubt on any rules email Forgeworld for the design team's word. They are very helpful and will reply in a day or two.

only blue box i found talking about this topic is in the narrative section on p61.

thing is, it seems to only be aimed at narrative as some narrative missions spesificly states that the player using knights may not take titans as reinforcments and the player using titans may not take knights as reinforcments.
the designers note on p61 says that in terms of narrative missions players may choose to not follow thouse limitationsif should they desire.

i emailed the question so lets see if we get a meaningfull respons in the future.

Page 6!

"knight households as battlegroups in their own right, either with or without titan support"

...I don't think they said anymore on it though only that one could have titan support.

Yeah, the consensus is that your main list is either a household or a legio, with extra knights and titans as support for both. The main list decides which set of stratagems are available for you.

Molech is written in a frustratingly vague way, but there are multiple hints at this being the case while someone just forgot to write it in the main rules for households. Sigh.

I see that now on page six. Who the hell puts army comp rules in the introduction? The rule about building your list from either the Molech book or the main rulebook made that really vague.

True that. I mean, the time we wasted this afternoon looking up and down( well, from page 7 onwards ) when it could have been in the household rules section, is like time I should have been doing some actual work!

Little impracticalities, Forgeworld!

SamusDrake wrote:

Page 6!

"knight households as battlegroups in their own right, either with or without titan support"

...I don't think they said anymore on it though only that one could have titan support.

aint that text an introduction describing what you will find later in the book?
that is how i read it. there is no rules on page 6 as i read it.

open play: anything goes, narrative play: you choose, matched play: sorry we have not made sutch rules.
it is like the whole book is just inteded for open/narrative play. match play section only talks about how to make the knight force and that banners with mixed weps are a freeblade banner.....

Quite right, FrozenDwarf!

We can only assume the Household rules are if you want to switch out your maniple for a household, and so they probably thought it would be enough as support was covered in the primary rule book. Its not exactly a textbook directive but it at least reveal Forgeworld's intention regarding the topic of support.

well, since i allready own 6 questoris(3 painted) and 2 cerastus, i might aswell make a knight army. i have a feeling i have bigger chanse of painting thouse cute tiny knights then the absurd large titans. (shure, small compared to 28mm, but 8mm titans are too big for my taste.)

was hoping that i could add a warhound or 2 as reinforcments, thats why i asked the question in the first place.

Everyone should do a knight household because they should.

Plod, plod, plod with the progress. When it comes to doing my own maniples, I think I may put a lot less effort in.

very nice indeed.

The sad part is that he considers that quality “not as much effort” and he probably opened the box on Sunday. ;(