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I just realized the new ITC missions don't have Slay the Warlord. So dropping both gemini might not be so bad. Actually the wording on the ITC Head Hunter Rule makes them more of a liability anyway.

drbored wrote:
Do people bother to screen Celestine with Seraphim? Is it worth it?

Seraphim are good in general, so screening Celestine is just a nice added benefit.

So not playing since 6th edition, my friends have finally convinced me to start playing a few games and I am starting to get the hang of it and finding it to be pretty fun.

So I notice a few things, Repressors are great, the fact that I can shot six different weapons out of it makes it great. Like I feel I am getting the rule wrong but you can move 12 with that thing and then still fire out of it as if you just moved normally? So I could move 12, then fire my Melta, Inferno Pistol, Heavy Flamer and a bunch of bolters out of it. And it's so cheap. Oh, and it can fight in close combat as well. If it's going to get shot a lot, I just pop smoke and keep moving forward and have the passengers shot. Just seems amazing for it points cost.

The next thing I notice is Inferno pistols are great. I have killed several characters with it, sometimes in close combat by using my act of faith. I give all my sister superior and my Canoness an Inferno pistol.

Storm Bolters are great as well, I now always give my vechiles extra storm bolters when I can.

Seraphim I have not had much luck due to some bad rolling. But the fact that they can move 24 in a single turn and then hit a unit with 4 inferno pistols makes them a very valuable unit.

Though I am sure you guys probably already covered this all but I just thought I would share my 2 cents.

Yep, I think you covered the basics.

So just want to make sure I am getting this right, but I was thinking of maybe putting in 6 battle sisters in a repressor, with 3 repentia and a mistress. Is this actually legal?

Thinking of doing this just to give my squad a bit more of a close combat punch.

Yes, although I would recommend against repentia. Also, Inferno Pistols on normal sister superiors are probably too spendy and short range.

drbored wrote:Do people bother to screen Celestine with Seraphim? Is it worth it?

Sort of. I think Celestine does the screening, as it were.

Seraphim are pretty useful, especially if the enemy doesn't have an adequate perimeter.

Necrosis wrote:So just want to make sure I am getting this right, but I was thinking of maybe putting in 6 battle sisters in a repressor, with 3 repentia and a mistress. Is this actually legal?

Thinking of doing this just to give my squad a bit more of a close combat punch.

It's legal. Is it useful? I can't say. I actually tried something of the sort, and they achieved nothing. I could have seen them adding something maybe if the game had gone less well, but overall I was unimpressed.

I like the inferno pistol because it's cheaper then a melta gun and it can be used in close combat if you survive the assault. As I said with the act of faith, that is two times you can attempt to shot them with it. Inside a repressor, it is easy to get close.

 Necrosis wrote:
I like the inferno pistol because it's cheaper then a melta gun and it can be used in close combat if you survive the assault. As I said with the act of faith, that is two times you can attempt to shot them with it. Inside a repressor, it is easy to get close.

I have yet to be that tight on points so far in 8th. I still take the combi melta because for 9 points more you're getting twice the range and the bolter shots. More often then not, a couple rapid fire bolter shots to clear out some fodder comes in handy. Plus, at BS4+ you get the melta and the bolter shots.

So I played a few more competitive games this weekend and noticed more AM players and tanks.
As factions with codexes get their buffs, I'm wondering what is everyone's most competitive Sisters build in their current meta, and take the ideas from those builds to help others.

I personally think fully-loaded Dominions in Repressors with Celestine and accompanying Seraphim are our top tier performers. My top list- no BSS so no ObSec, but it has lots of dakka and mobility, 10 drops, 5 CP, 1999 pts

Celestine
Canoness with Stormbolter
9 squads of 5 Dominions (2 Meltaguns, 3 Stormbolters)
2 squads of 5 Dominions (5 Stormbolters)
8 Repressors (HF, 2 Stormbolters)
8 Seraphim (4 Inferno Pistols)

Totals: 55 Dominions (18 Meltaguns, 37 Stormbolters)
The Canoness rides with a 5 Stormbolter Dominion squad in a Repressor while everything else rushes forward. It's an aggressive list concentrating on picking apart the opponent.

What's your top builds?

 davidgr33n wrote:
So I played a few more competitive games this weekend and noticed more AM players and tanks.
As factions with codexes get their buffs, I'm wondering what is everyone's most competitive Sisters build in their current meta, and take the ideas from those builds to help others.

I personally think fully-loaded Dominions in Repressors with Celestine and accompanying Seraphim are our top tier performers. My top list- no BSS so no ObSec, but it has lots of dakka and mobility, 10 drops, 5 CP, 1999 pts

Celestine
Canoness with Stormbolter
9 squads of 5 Dominions (2 Meltaguns, 3 Stormbolters)
2 squads of 5 Dominions (5 Stormbolters)
8 Repressors (HF, 2 Stormbolters)
8 Seraphim (4 Inferno Pistols)

Totals: 55 Dominions (18 Meltaguns, 37 Stormbolters)
The Canoness rides with a 5 Stormbolter Dominion squad in a Repressor while everything else rushes forward. It's an aggressive list concentrating on picking apart the opponent.

What's your top builds?

Here is my Hyper Comp list

Vanguard
Celestine 2x Gem
Doms x5: x4 SB, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 SB, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 SB, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 SB, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Seraphim x10: x2 Inferno Pistols, Power Sword
Retributors x5: x4 HB's, x1 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB

Vanguard
Canoness; Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 Melta Gun, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 Melta Gun, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Doms x5: x4 Melta Gun, x1 Condemnor Boltgun
Retributors x5: x4 HB's, x1 SB
Repressor, x2 HF, x1 SB
Repressor, x2 HF, x1 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB
Repressor, x1 HF, x2 SB

I like some Melta, i always have and always will, i also LOVE the Condemnor Boltgun and it really helps me a lot. So far im 5-0 with SoB, 1st game was Jack of all units to play test each unit, all others was this list. (I dont play them much b.c i like my Harlequins more)

My current competitive list:

1x Celestine 1/Gemini
3x Dominion 4/melta, 1/combi
1x Dominion 5/storm bolters
4x Repressor 2/flamer, 1/storm bolter
7x Seraphim 4/inferno, 1/plamsa pistol
1x Canoness 1/plasma pistol
2x Imagifer
2x Retributor 4/heavy bolter 1/storm bolter
1x Culexus
1x Guillaman

So, this is probably going to sound silly to all of you, but the only reason I'm not going full ham into getting a bunch of Repressors and Dominions and all that is JUST IN CASE those rumors are true and Sisters are going to get a Jan. 2018 update. Now, if they don't, then I'll probably start getting those Repressors, even though they are FW rules.

It's impressive that Sisters can do so well with literally three kinds of weapons. Storm Bolters, Heavy Flamers, and Melta Guns.

drbored wrote:
So, this is probably going to sound silly to all of you, but the only reason I'm not going full ham into getting a bunch of Repressors and Dominions and all that is JUST IN CASE those rumors are true and Sisters are going to get a Jan. 2018 update. Now, if they don't, then I'll probably start getting those Repressors, even though they are FW rules.

I wouldn't wait for anything in particular on sisters. I've been playing them for almost 20 years now and waiting for new models has never been a good idea.

It's impressive that Sisters can do so well with literally three kinds of weapons. Storm Bolters, Heavy Flamers, and Melta Guns.

That doesn't take into account Bolters, Bolt Pistols and Inferno Pistols.

drbored wrote:
So, this is probably going to sound silly to all of you, but the only reason I'm not going full ham into getting a bunch of Repressors and Dominions and all that is JUST IN CASE those rumors are true and Sisters are going to get a Jan. 2018 update. Now, if they don't, then I'll probably start getting those Repressors, even though they are FW rules.

There's no guarantee (or even a credible rumor) sisters are getting anything anytime soon.
You can always play the Repressors you build as Rhino's or Immolators if you build them correctly.
Being FW means that even if a new codex drops, odds are their rules won't change at all.

I wouldn't wait.

Even if the codex drops in a few months the sisters special weapons won't be unusable. If you look at the codex updates from the indexes, other than some points adjustments and adding rules, units have mostly stayed the same.

In terms of competitive lists, heres what I'm debating running at Dragon Fall:

Patrol:

1x Bike Libby, Force Sword, Armor Indomius

5x Scouts

6x Aggressors, Boltstorm, Fragstrom

Outrider Detachment:

Celestine + 2 Friends

5x Doms - 4x Melta, Chainsword, Comdemor Boltgun
5x Doms - 4x Melta, Chainsword, Comdemor Boltgun
5x Doms - 4x Melts, Chainsword
5x Doms - 4x Melta, Chainsword
9x Seperhim, 2x Infero Pistols

8x Acros
1x Priest

Repressor, Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter
Repressor, Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter
Repressor, Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter
Repressor, Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter
1x Rhino, 2x Storm Botlers

Aux Detachment (-1 Command Point):

C Assassin

Total Drops: 11

Total Command Points: 3

Total Points: 2000

 davidgr33n wrote:
So I played a few more competitive games this weekend and noticed more AM players and tanks.
As factions with codexes get their buffs, I'm wondering what is everyone's most competitive Sisters build in their current meta, and take the ideas from those builds to help others.

I personally think fully-loaded Dominions in Repressors with Celestine and accompanying Seraphim are our top tier performers. My top list- no BSS so no ObSec, but it has lots of dakka and mobility, 10 drops, 5 CP, 1999 pts

Celestine
Canoness with Stormbolter
9 squads of 5 Dominions (2 Meltaguns, 3 Stormbolters)
2 squads of 5 Dominions (5 Stormbolters)
8 Repressors (HF, 2 Stormbolters)
8 Seraphim (4 Inferno Pistols)

Totals: 55 Dominions (18 Meltaguns, 37 Stormbolters)
The Canoness rides with a 5 Stormbolter Dominion squad in a Repressor while everything else rushes forward. It's an aggressive list concentrating on picking apart the opponent.

What's your top builds?

No forge world permitted in my local league, but I ran the following 75PL list in my local league, and placed first:

Celestine +1 Gemini
5x Dominions, 4x Meltaguns, 1x Combi Melta
5x Dominions, 4x Meltaguns, 1x Combi Melta
5x Dominions, 4x Meltaguns, 1x Combi Melta
5x Dominions, 4x Flamers, 1x Combi Flamer
10x Dominions, 5x Storm Bolters
Exorcist, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile
Penitent Engine
Immolator, Multimelta, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile
Immolator, Multimelta, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile
Immolator, Immolation Flamer, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile
Immolator, Immolation Flamer, Storm Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile


However, this was back in August. I haven't played any matches since September.



The Penitent Engine only achieved the destruction of a Land Raider in all the games I player. The Exorcist's total contribution was sitting on my backfield objective. The Immolator tanks were very valuable, and did quite a bit, from capturing objectives to locking things in close combat.

Seeing as Forgeworld no longer sells the Repressor at all, I'm finding myself in a bit of a bind.

Does anyone have pics of conversions they've done? I know there's that one guy with the shapeways option, but does anyone have one painted up?

drbored wrote:
Seeing as Forgeworld no longer sells the Repressor at all, I'm finding myself in a bit of a bind.

Does anyone have pics of conversions they've done? I know there's that one guy with the shapeways option, but does anyone have one painted up?

Just need a rhino with a dozer blade, stormbolter and a heavy flamer. I built mine with city of death terrain to make a church top. The sheways stuff is great too. You would do fine just adding a 1/4" of plastic under the silhouette of sororitas rhino top too.

Sheways stuff?

 Amishprn86 wrote:
Sheways stuff?

I've designed a bunch of parts that can be used to convert repressors that Shapeways will 3D print on demand.

drbored wrote:
Seeing as Forgeworld no longer sells the Repressor at all, I'm finding myself in a bit of a bind.

Does anyone have pics of conversions they've done? I know there's that one guy with the shapeways option, but does anyone have one painted up?

Zefig: I forgot to tell you, I've been spreading around the gospel of your work. I saw one in person in the local store last week.
They said it was the $40 one.

Is the paint really thick or is that the piece itself?

i think the horizontal lines are the print itself. the paint doesn't look too thick on the smoke stacks.

 deviantduck wrote:
i think the horizontal lines are the print itself. the paint doesn't look too thick on the smoke stacks.

Yeah, there is a little bit of extra prep work that needs to be done on a 3d print in order to make it smooth. Actually, that print might have been one of the cheaper, unpolished materials. Overall, the paint job isn't all that hot, but it is nice to see the addons see the table.

I havent work with 3d printed stuff yet, but from an outsider looking in, i can ALWAYS see the layers.

Can you sand down those lines? or is it just going to shred it uneven?

 Anpu-adom wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:
i think the horizontal lines are the print itself. the paint doesn't look too thick on the smoke stacks.

Yeah, there is a little bit of extra prep work that needs to be done on a 3d print in order to make it smooth. Actually, that print might have been one of the cheaper, unpolished materials. Overall, the paint job isn't all that hot, but it is nice to see the addons see the table.

I specifically asked them which one they got, and they said it was the more expensive one. But yes, I do believe the roughness is due to the lack of prep work. The monotone paint job doesn't help either. But, she's brand new to the hobby and that model is still an unfinished work in progress. I'll get some better pictures if she shows up tomorrow.

 deviantduck wrote:
Zefig: I forgot to tell you, I've been spreading around the gospel of your work. I saw one in person in the local store last week.
They said it was the $40 one.

Spoiler:

That's awesome to see! Thanks for sharing. I hope she's happy with the purchase.

The red/white one I posted is one of the cheaper strong and flexible plates, with a light dusting of primer and no other surface prep. I sanded it lightly afterwards and it cleaned up the finish a decent amount. Sanding before painting should work better, but I don't have another piece yet to try that on and it'll take a bit to strip this one.

I heard there's a trick you can use with acetone on 3d prints to help smooth them out, but if you mess up, you lose all the detail. I don't know if I'd be willing to put in the effort into the prepwork to make a 3d print smooth, and while I think your sculpts are fantastic, Zefig, I really wish they weren't 3d printed XD