Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Briar and Bone reveal (Sylvaneth v OBR)

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**angryboy2k**

There are two Killzones still on the website (Fronteris and Sanctoris). Was there a third?

**Kanluwen**

angryboy2k wrote:
There are two Killzones still on the website (Fronteris and Sanctoris). Was there a third?

Four.

Killzone: Mechanicus(what's in the upcoming Starter)
Killzone: Deathworld Forest
Killzone: Fronteris(which sold out REALLY fast in most localities)
Killzone: Sanctoris is some of the stuff from the original KT starter.

**angryboy2k**

All this makes me just want to snag the Warcry terrain fast before it sells out.

**Overread**

I think Warcry might last a bit longer because AoS isn't as popular as 40K; however yes if you want any of the terrain sets I'd get them sooner rather than later since they've a far higher chance of running out. GW might well re-issue some or even all of them since the card system ties them into the core game; but at the same time they could just let them laps and then GW makes new terrain sets in the future.

Remembering that whilst the terrain cards in Warcry are really nice, they are in no way essential for play.

**skrulnik**

Kanluwen wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
There are two Killzones still on the website (Fronteris and Sanctoris). Was there a third?

Four.

Killzone: Mechanicus(what's in the upcoming Starter)
Killzone: Deathworld Forest
Killzone: Fronteris(which sold out REALLY fast in most localities)
Killzone: Sanctoris is some of the stuff from the original KT starter.

There were more,

Killzone: Wall of Martyrs
Killzone: Sector Munitorum (Shipping containers)
The Original starter had its own, Killzone: Sector Imperialis.

Plus, Arena amd Rogue Trader boards were considered their own Battlezones

**DaveC**

You’ve crushed the Corvus Cabal, shattered the Splintered Fang and smashed The Unmade so hard that you knocked their faces off… again. But has your warband got what it takes to tackle a three-headed monster the size of a house?

In Monsters & Mercenaries, you’ll have the chance to find out! Warcry’s first expansion has a little bit of everything with loads of awesome new rules. Take monsters, for starters – you’ll be able to test yourself against them in special challenge battles and bind them to your dark will!

As well as monsters, the book contains rules for adding the eponymous mercenaries mentioned on the cover. That’s right, you can bring in a variety of special allies to your warband, from Darkoath Warqueens prophesying apocalyptic glory for your warband to bold Knight Heraldors willing to take on Daemons, madmen and raving Cygors, armed with nothing but a fancy trumpet.*

**His Master's Voice**

That monsters looks like a Trish Morrison sculpt.

Why, GW? WHY?!

**Chopstick**

So it's the "commander" expansion.

When will we get the "Rogue Trader" one?

**Kanluwen**

His Master's Voice wrote:
That monsters looks like a Trish Morrison sculpt.

Why, GW? WHY?!

Because it's the resin Chimera that she sculpted?

**Thargrim**

Pass, i'd like to be able to play this game without having to debate with opponents over which version and rules to include.

**DaveC**

Kanluwen wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
That monsters looks like a Trish Morrison sculpt.

Why, GW? WHY?!

Because it's the resin Chimera that she sculpted?

It's plastic
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chimera

Looks like a way to sell some older kits with new rules hopefully rules/cards will be available without the mini as I don't want to have to buy some minis I already own just for a card.

I guess the Manticore will feature as well as it can be built without the chaos lord from 1 sprue

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chaos-Lord-on-Manticore-2016

**Danny76**

Just wanted to see the two remaining factions..

**H.B.M.C.**

"Here's a book full of rules for stuff we already sell!"

Great expansion guys.

**Overread**

The only problem I've got is that they didn't announce a second wave of regular army card rules. It will be interesting to see how the mercenaries pan out - I kinda hope that they are either generic per grand alliance or included for ALL armies otherwise w'll have to do this whole dance over again for the second card wave.

That said I'm VERY happy to see rules for the Chimera and hope the cockatrice also appears as well as some other chaos beasties!

**Sqorgar**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Here's a book full of rules for stuff we already sell!"

Great expansion guys.

Just like KT Commanders and Elites. We pretty much knew this was coming. It'll also come with at least a second wave of card releases to represent the models. I'm curious how runemark abilities will be handled for mercenaries. Does the Darkoath Queen come with her own ability card?

**Eldarain**

Would like to see card packs for every AoS faction. Diversifies the game and are a cheap way to boost sales across the range.

**Sqorgar**

It dawns on me that the book can't be full of rules for old models because Warcry puts all the rules on cards. The core book doesn't have any rules for models. If they want to add characters or more models to a faction, they release cards, not books. So what's in the book?

**Chopstick**

Sqorgar wrote:
It dawns on me that the book can't be full of rules for old models because Warcry puts all the rules on cards. The core book doesn't have any rules for models. If they want to add characters or more models to a faction, they release cards, not books. So what's in the book?

New battleplan/campaign to capture your Pokémon.

Those faction-specific campaigns took a lot of pages.

**Sqorgar**

Chopstick wrote:

New battleplan/campaign to capture your Pokémon.

Those faction-specific campaigns took a lot of pages.

More campaign quest would be great - hell, I think it would be awesome to do a Warcry Pokemon. Start with one guy and some weaker chaos beasts, catch a few, level them up to evolve. Enter a tournament to be the very best, like no one ever was. That'd be sweet. The Splintered Fang even comes with some Ekans (it's a poison type).

Frankly, as long as the book isn't 64 pages of faction-specific name and background generation tables, I'm cool.

**angryboy2k**

Ironjawz cards are no longer available on the UK website. This aligns with what people have been saying about the faction cards being a splash release.

**Sqorgar**

angryboy2k wrote:
Ironjawz cards are no longer available on the UK website. This aligns with what people have been saying about the faction cards being a splash release.

For GW, everything with cards is a splash release. I have no idea why they decided to make cards fundamental to Warcry when they damn well know they can't keep the things in stock. You literally can not play Ironjawz without the cards. Either the cards come back, or they release a Warcry army book with the stats in them. They can't pull a Necromunda Tactics cards/AoS Warscroll cards and just not release them ever again.

**Kanluwen**

Sqorgar wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
Ironjawz cards are no longer available on the UK website. This aligns with what people have been saying about the faction cards being a splash release.
For GW, everything with cards is a splash release. I have no idea why they decided to make cards fundamental to Warcry when they damn well know they can't keep the things in stock. You literally can not play Ironjawz without the cards. Either the cards come back, or they release a Warcry army book with the stats in them. They can't pull a Necromunda Tactics cards/AoS Warscroll cards and just not release them ever again.

Might sound silly, but I've been wondering if they might be considering adding the cards to the instruction sheets for the units.

**privateer4hire**

Not impossible. They already do that (include stats) for the blood bowl teams in their assembly instructions.

**hvg3akaek**

They should just release them as a 'print your own' pdf once they have sold out in stores...

**lord_blackfang**

"Print your own" is already available if you know where to look, wink wink nudge nudge say no more.

And to cut off the butbutbutpiracy brigade... I preordered everything and so far the store was only able to supply me with 4 faction decks due to supply and database issues.

**Dudeface**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Here's a book full of rules for stuff we already sell!"

Great expansion guys.

I really hope that's a sincere comment. Them basing an expansion on models that people possibly own, rather than forking out for obscure new £60 monster.

**Geifer**

Dudeface wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Here's a book full of rules for stuff we already sell!"

Great expansion guys.

I really hope that's a sincere comment. Them basing an expansion on models that people possibly own, rather than forking out for obscure new £60 monster.

I think this is a case where a compromise would be best. By all means release rules for all sorts of models so people who have and/or like them can use them in their game, but also take the opportunity to expand the range and setting by adding something new to it. It's the best of both worlds and why I'm happy that the base game did just that by adding warbands from the other three Grand Alliances.

Pretty sure H.B.M.C. would rather have all new stuff than all old stuff, though.

**Fango**

DaveC wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
That monsters looks like a Trish Morrison sculpt.

Why, GW? WHY?!

Because it's the resin Chimera that she sculpted?

It's plastic
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chimera

Looks like a way to sell some older kits with new rules hopefully rules/cards will be available without the mini as I don't want to have to buy some minis I already own just for a card.

I guess the Manticore will feature as well as it can be built without the chaos lord from 1 sprue

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chaos-Lord-on-Manticore-2016

Seeing as how the new Shattered Realm terrain cards and boards are locked behind terrain that we likely already own, I would not be surprised in the least if the stat cards were repackaged with the models. After all, this is an obvious move to sell product they didn't sell enough of...especially those $35 Malign Portents heroes...

That being said, they did release a couple of card packs for Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower/Hammerhal, so maybe the new stat cards are in something like that.

**AegisGrimm**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Here's a book full of rules for stuff we already sell!"

Great expansion guys.

Could just be a hugely expensive Black Fortress expansion, instead.

At least this can let people use what they already have. Part of why I never bought the card packs is that if I was going to get into Warcry and play some Stormcast, I didn't just want to be restricted to such a small selection.

**skullking**

DaveC wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
That monsters looks like a Trish Morrison sculpt.

Why, GW? WHY?!

Because it's the resin Chimera that she sculpted?

It's plastic
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chimera

Looks like a way to sell some older kits with new rules hopefully rules/cards will be available without the mini as I don't want to have to buy some minis I already own just for a card.

I guess the Manticore will feature as well as it can be built without the chaos lord from 1 sprue

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Chaos-Lord-on-Manticore-2016

I hadn’t realized the manticore could be built without the rider spruce. That’s a sure deal, we’ll get that & the chimera (obviously) then. Sadly I doubt we’ll see the cockatrice, or jabberslythe, since they were only finecast. Maybe the Ghorgon/cygor?

Also, Trish’s sculpts are great!