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Glad you're enjoying it. Unfortunately, the start isn't the best but there are some enjoyable parts in that first season early on. I enjoyed the Terra Nova and Andorian Incident episodes that are early on in the first season and they should be coming up soon for you. I rather enjoyed Trip but I personally never really warmed up myself to Malcolm Reed.

If you start disliking the show, I recommend skipping forward to season four and starting with the third episode there (Home). You'll miss the ends of the Xindi and Temporal Cold War story arcs but you don't need them for most of that last season. Just make sure to skip the rage inducing last episode though! It's infamous as a trek series finale.

Nice Lower Decks season finale. Had some Next Gen cameos, an Enterprise reference I enjoyed, call back to TOS. I hope they get a second season.

 AduroT wrote:
I love the movie spoofs they did. The ship flyby, the lens flares, just perfect.

Ya, didn't realize it was the Finale. Only 9 episodes! They did a great job spoofing all the movies. I love the flyby scene because I think Star Trek TMP is like the worse movie ever. The panning shots of the enterprise feel like they go on for an hour which they spoofed well. Then they of course there is an evil SuperVillian which the Movies almost always have but the TV shows rarely do. Also, when the cyborg guy beams down the entire crew in one batch because of techno-babble and the're like you can't do that but they're like whatever - It's a movie! Totally riffing on that time Scotty beamed people all the way to Q'onos from Earth.


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 chromedog wrote:
So, after watching a few episodes mentioned by Memory Alpha, I've come to the realisation that the Akira class is ST's boba fett.

Mostly shows up in "blink and you miss it" flybys, or blows up.

I'm not seeing why it's so loved apart from fans latching onto small things and squeezing them to death.

I love the Akira because of the video game Star Trek Legacy. That ship is amazing to fly and kicks butt! It has like 11 forward torpedo tubes or something like that. It can take down anything.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Only 9 episodes!

There's 10 episodes...

beast_gts wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Only 9 episodes!

There's 10 episodes...

What the? My obscure Canadian streaming service says the movie episode was the 9th episode... Guess one episode was not suitable for Canadian sensibilities...

The movie episode isn’t the finale, there’s one after that.

 AduroT wrote:
The movie episode isn’t the finale, there’s one after that.

Ah ok. Something to watch this weekend.

Movie episode is "Crisis Point", next one is called "No Small Parts" - Memory Alpha (spoilers).

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


I love the Akira because of the video game Star Trek Legacy. That ship is amazing to fly and kicks butt! It has like 11 forward torpedo tubes or something like that. It can take down anything.

I've played ONE ST video game. It was called "Star Trek" and you sat in it in the arcades. It had knob for panning the view, and thrust, warp, shields and phasers buttons, and the gfx were vector. This alone should tell you how much I care for most video games.

beast_gts wrote:
Movie episode is "Crisis Point", next one is called "No Small Parts" - Memory Alpha (spoilers).

Surprisingly finale.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Movie episode is "Crisis Point", next one is called "No Small Parts" - Memory Alpha (spoilers).

Surprisingly finale.

Spoiler:

Hardcore Bajoran security chief dies! Plus the debut of The Titan.

The callback to Enterprise was

Disco season 3 kicks off tomorrow, which is nice. Spesh as The Boys just wrapped up.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Disco season 3 kicks off tomorrow, which is nice. Spesh as The Boys just wrapped up.

Star Trek Burnham - no interest after the truely dire 2nd season - will wait for Expanse with actual plot, characters and such.

Contrary to the clickbait rumormill, STD is renewed for season four unfortunately.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-renewed-season-4-cbs-all-access-1234807650/

Well, I went and did it.

Watched the first episode of season 3.

Swore that I was done with it, especially after an especially nauseating bout of virtue signalling from the show a couple of months ago. Think you're progressive, Discovery? TOS beat you to it by about... oh, 50 years.

It's still sticking to the current trend of not bothering with decent storytelling, characters, exploration, moral dilemmas or any of that Star Trek stuff, in favour of "if in doubt do a fight scene, blow stuff up, shoot things and try to rival the bodycount of Commando".

I’ll wait for the next Rich Evans video...

 Chillreaper wrote:
Well, I went and did it.

Watched the first episode of season 3.

Swore that I was done with it, especially after an especially nauseating bout of virtue signalling from the show a couple of months ago. Think you're progressive, Discovery? TOS beat you to it by about... oh, 50 years.

It's still sticking to the current trend of not bothering with decent storytelling, characters, exploration, moral dilemmas or any of that Star Trek stuff, in favour of "if in doubt do a fight scene, blow stuff up, shoot things and try to rival the bodycount of Commando".

I mean, Michael only killed like a dozen cops to help her new smuggler friend get away, after he framed her for attempted theft. The future is lucky to have her so she can set the proper example of the old federation standards to live by.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I’ll wait for the next Rich Evans video...

Might be a long, long time, given he walked out on doing the Picard videos and just never came back.
Pretty sure he got fed up, not sure if he'll bother to give the current Treks another chance.

Voss wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I’ll wait for the next Rich Evans video...

Might be a long, long time, given he walked out on doing the Picard videos and just never came back.
Pretty sure he got fed up, not sure if he'll bother to give the current Treks another chance.

I was not unaware of this.

 AduroT wrote:

I mean, Michael only killed like a dozen cops to help her new smuggler friend get away, after he framed her for attempted theft. The future is lucky to have her so she can set the proper example of the old federation standards to live by.

Bah, that's like five minutes of community service as punishment. She was indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions during the war she started during her mutiny and only served a 6 month sentence.


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Voss wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I’ll wait for the next Rich Evans video...

Might be a long, long time, given he walked out on doing the Picard videos and just never came back.
Pretty sure he got fed up, not sure if he'll bother to give the current Treks another chance.

If you click on it, he will come.

So, how long before they stop being coy and just change the title to Star Trek: Burnham? Watched the first episode of season 3 today and an entire hour of Burnham is not the way to entice me to watch more.

I'm actually vaguely interested in the interactions between the Discovery crew and if there's anything that would get me watching more of the season it would be more time spent with the rest of the ship's crew. Sadly (and somewhat inevitably) it looks like the show's going the opposite direction.

Slipspace wrote:
So, how long before they stop being coy and just change the title to Star Trek: Burnham? Watched the first episode of season 3 today and an entire hour of Burnham is not the way to entice me to watch more.

I'm actually vaguely interested in the interactions between the Discovery crew and if there's anything that would get me watching more of the season it would be more time spent with the rest of the ship's crew. Sadly (and somewhat inevitably) it looks like the show's going the opposite direction.

Well, they're definitely arriving sometime as they're in the promo materials. In the meantime, you'll have to be satisfied that the galaxy spanning catastrophe that brought down the Federation was ironically named after her. This time (unlike with the first catastrophe that almost brought down the Federation i.e. the war) it likely wasn't her fault... probably.

I don't understand why Kurzman have to runa a Star Trek show when clearly he doesn't understand and doesn't like the original material.

He even said in an interview that they increased the time jump in the future from a couple centuries to almost a millennia EXPLICITLY to cut any ties with the established lore... And I have to accept that he determine the canon for the future and ending of all the historic series I love?

That's an order of magnitude of gakshow I don't believe could be achieved. Won't give them anymore or my time, they've already abused of it.

 Cybtroll wrote:
And I have to accept that he determine the canon for the future and ending of all the historic series I love?

Why would you have to do that?

It's all timey wimey. He determines the 'canon' (such as it exists for Star Trek) for that particular timeline. That doesn't necessarily have any impact whatsoever on any other Star Trek property.

Yeah, you can rationalize and justify anything you want.

Still, if you exclude the coming back home of Voyager, the only evolution of the setting we know until now (and I forecast it will be so for a long time) will be something made by someone who literally didn't want to be constrained by it.
Hardly a recipe for success.

There's no need to rationalise anything. If you don't like the show, just ignore it.

Worked for Enterprise.

 insaniak wrote:
There's no need to rationalise anything. If you don't like the show, just ignore it.

Worked for Enterprise.

Pretty much this. Remember, nothing wrong with liking or disliking any given show, character, episodes, arc, whatever.

But, for those looking to discuss the latest happenings in a show, having to sift through posts saying little more than “I don’t like that show” gets a bit, well, off putting.

I find it interesting that both ENT and DIS decided to take two of the worst stories of DS9 and run with them as major plot lines.

The Klingon appearance change was largely ignored (IIRC) until the DS9 Tribble episode when Worf dropped the 'We don't talk about it' line. What should've been ignored as just a production change due to real world technological improvements turned into the Augment plot, complete with Klingon forehead ridges dramatically dissolving. Star Wars, for all it's writing flaws, handled one of their major changes much better until Lucas felt the need to Special Edition Jabba the man into the Jabba the Hutt. Personally, I think Jabba having such an ego that his speakers are treated as if they were him adds an interesting wrinkle to the character, but I'm a moron.

The TOS mirror universe episode was best left alone, but DS9 felt the need to revisit it multiple times. To make matters worse they retconned it being a 1:1 swap so that characters could travel freely between universes. I'll admit they were fun episodes just to see the actor's performances as their MU counterparts, particularly Nana Visitor as the raging narcissist, but a similar storyline could have been a What If? scenario with the Orbs of the Prophets. ENT ran with it further and set up S1 of DIS. Also, DIS decided that it was necessary for the beyond covert Section 31 to become a key and obvious player in the universe.

I'll give DIS and ENT credit in that their handling of the MU was at least interesting, but I ultimately think DS9 made a mistake of revisiting the MU and opened a Pandora's Box of questionable storytelling in the process.

 trexmeyer wrote:
I'll give DIS and ENT credit in that their handling of the MU was at least interesting, but I ultimately think DS9 made a mistake of revisiting the MU and opened a Pandora's Box of questionable storytelling in the process.

I don't know that it's really fair to point at good writing and say "you wrote something that was good and now look what other people have written!"

Trials and Tribble-ations was a great episode. IDK why people became so hungry for an explanation for a throw away line that amounted to an (at the time) amusing mythology gag. Section 31 was a decent villain for their limited appearances. The Mirror Universe episodes were not the best but they were better than the worst. Probably the worst part of them is how they made the MU somewhat mundane in a way.

That the writers who followed wrote gakky stories expanding on these isn't really anyone's fault but the gakky writers who wrote the gakky stories. Though I roundly dislike DIS and I didn't think their MU episodes were bad. The MU episodes were kind of the highlight of the show until they overdid it. Like they overdid Section 31. Some things are best in moderation but that's anathema to the current entertainment culture which is all about making things bigger and biggest and throwing special effects at the screen because it's easier than getting good writers.

I don't think the DS9 MU was good. I enjoyed the first couple of them, but I wouldn't call them good and the series would have been better off without them. I think there were 4-5 MU episodes that could have been used to flesh out the Dominion War plot which became excessively rushed in S7.