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2021/07/26 17:25:33
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Remind me where the model is for the cover art of Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus?
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2021/08/01 20:12:08
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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So now that Beast Snaggas are out... When is the rest of it coming?
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2021/08/01 20:42:47
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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No sooner than end of August, probably split into multiple releases like they did for sisters and necrons.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
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2021/08/01 21:15:27
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Lieutenant General
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Jidmah wrote:
No sooner than end of August, probably split into multiple releases like they did for sisters and necrons.
We still have two AoS battletomes (Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans) confirmed for pre-order in August, so I would say sometime in September may be the more likely pre-order date.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2021/08/01 21:29:05
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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H.B.M.C. wrote: xttz wrote:NGL, that Combat Patrol box is a good enough deal that if it were on sale right now I'd be starting a new Ork army from scratch.
It it was on sale I'd have one too. I love the new Warboss mini (even if GW was boneheadedly stupid to not give it a Klaw option), 20 Boyz I can turn into slightly-bigger-Boyz (ie. Skarboyz) is a good thing, the Deffkoptas are nice, and Dreads are literally my fav unit type in 40k - any flavour, Marine, Chaos, Eldar, Ork, etc. - so another one of those is great.
ImAGeek wrote:Sure, my point was more ‘no model no art’ doesn’t really apply anyway, as there currently is a model. GW wouldn't bother doing new art for a mini that is mostly unavailable. Them in art gives us a better than good chance that we'll see a plastic kit.
No mode/no art is a thing. Sadly.
I don’t disagree that it’s likely there’s a plastic kit coming, but I’m sticking by the statement that no model no art isn’t the hard and fast rule it was a few years ago. There’s been plenty of examples, such as the above mentioned AdMech codex cover. Chaos termie with a big mace springs to mind too.
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2021/08/01 21:32:46
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ImAGeek wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Who knows. Could just be “sell the new things as hard as we can”.
Certainly just as No Model No Rules is a thing, so is No Models No Art.
I’m not spotting anything else in the same art - but the Codex May throw something up.
Sod it. This needs to a thread of its own.
No Models No Art isn’t a hard and fast rule these days like it was at one point. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get plastic death riders, but the art doesn’t necessarily indicate it, and there are death rider models already (resin ones).
Yup. If No Models No Art was a real rule, we'd have Renegades still since they were on one of the Chaos Knights art pieces.
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2021/08/01 23:08:22
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Ghaz wrote: Jidmah wrote:
No sooner than end of August, probably split into multiple releases like they did for sisters and necrons.
We still have two AoS battletomes (Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans) confirmed for pre-order in August, so I would say sometime in September may be the more likely pre-order date.
Yeah AOS plus Kill Team were both confirmed for this month, so they're likely the next two previews.
There was about six weeks between the Sisters boxed set and separate codex release so I'd expect at least the same wait for Orks.
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2021/08/01 23:34:56
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Lieutenant General
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We've already seen articles on Warhammer Community for the new Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans battletomes last week.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2021/08/02 12:15:26
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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That wasn't supposed to be Cawl?
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2021/08/02 12:56:10
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I mean, look at how like it took for the rest of Sisters to drop.
And the rest of the Kruleboyz and Stormcast are still waiting to be released Automatically Appended Next Post: Platuan4th wrote: ImAGeek wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Who knows. Could just be “sell the new things as hard as we can”.
Certainly just as No Model No Rules is a thing, so is No Models No Art.
I’m not spotting anything else in the same art - but the Codex May throw something up.
Sod it. This needs to a thread of its own.
No Models No Art isn’t a hard and fast rule these days like it was at one point. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get plastic death riders, but the art doesn’t necessarily indicate it, and there are death rider models already (resin ones).
Yup. If No Models No Art was a real rule, we'd have Renegades still since they were on one of the Chaos Knights art pieces.
I'm not disagreeing; its obvious they haven't been No Art=No Model for quite some time, but could the Renegades be the traitor guard from Blackston? It's not like GW hasn't released art showing OOP models before. I haven't seen the pic in question
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2021/08/02 18:39:41
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Clearly not, no
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2021/08/02 23:14:17
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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With the banner. It's kind of a weird Vraksian/Cultist mix.
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2021/08/03 01:46:50
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Those cultists are close enough to the GW/FW cultists that I wouldn't read into it too much. In general, the vast majority of the artwork is covered by a model from GW or FW, theres only a few pieces that aren't and most of those ae "close enough" to an actual model that the IP risks that led GW towards that policy aren't really applicable.
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2021/08/29 17:12:30
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/29/sunday-preview-green-is-good/
Codex at last, alongside Combat Patrol, beast snagga stuff released separately, and a couple of other bits
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2021/08/29 18:31:02
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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And they repackage battlewagon with its upgrade sprue.
Good because the upgrade sprue can be hard to come by but bad because it probably means battlewagon going up in price.
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2021/08/29 18:47:29
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Do we think those boys are monopose with the odd option for heavy weapons and different Nob loadoouts? I cannot decide as the 8 duplicates in the picture are identically armed and identically painted so not sure if it is photoshop laziness or just indicating the limitations of the kit.
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2021/08/29 18:48:11
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why is the scale so wrong for the dreadnought on the codex cover?
Or are all of the orks actually tiny..?
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2021/08/29 18:56:12
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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I dread the price of the "new" Battlewagon.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/08/29 18:56:29
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Do we think those boys are monopose with the odd option for heavy weapons and different Nob loadoouts? I cannot decide as the 8 duplicates in the picture are identically armed and identically painted so not sure if it is photoshop laziness or just indicating the limitations of the kit.
The kit will be able to build all the codex options at least. They showed shoota boyz in the studio preview.
Most recent kits have a single build for each body but then have several swappable options for arms / head / accessories so not every model is identical. I expect these to be just like Skitarii.
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2021/08/29 19:00:38
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Do we think those boys are monopose with the odd option for heavy weapons and different Nob loadoouts? I cannot decide as the 8 duplicates in the picture are identically armed and identically painted so not sure if it is photoshop laziness or just indicating the limitations of the kit.
Gw hasn't done non-monopope kit for ages.
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2021/08/29 19:37:57
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:Do we think those boys are monopose with the odd option for heavy weapons and different Nob loadoouts? I cannot decide as the 8 duplicates in the picture are identically armed and identically painted so not sure if it is photoshop laziness or just indicating the limitations of the kit.
It sure looks like it's a limitation of the kit, sadly. 9 Boyz with the head, pose, and armament entirely locked in except an alternative heavy weapon, and a Nob with a head option and two sets of arms. This is exactly how the Beast Snagga Boyz looked in the previews and any hope of further customisability there was quickly dashed when we saw the sprue.
I have 60 of the existing Ork Boyz so I was just considering getting 10 or 20 of these to build a unit of Skarboyz. If the monopose is correct, I definitely won't be doing that.
Very disappointing.
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2021/08/29 19:43:02
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Foxy Wildborne
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It's highly doubtful you can even swap arms between models in the same box. Zero chance of compatibility with any other box.
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2021/08/29 19:46:25
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Hope is first step to dissapointment. As gw has been doing only monoposes for years with very few exceptions(sister of battle repentia is dual pose for one) so safe bet orks would be. Thus i wasn't dissapointea as i had expected it for looong time.
Especially with gw expect worst and you won't be dissapointed. They say now first 3rd ed aos battle tomes preorder september. I'm running now on assumption they come on 25th to preorder. Thus every sunday can't be dissapointed.
Next week ork wave 2, then something, then battletomes.
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2021/08/29 19:49:18
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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GW's approach here really makes no sense to me. It's one thing when elite units you're probably only going to buy one box of are locked in to a single pose and loadout, but who's going to want to have a horde of orkz where it's the same 9 guys and a Nob spammed multiple times?
I get that in reality even the older kits didn't have exactly infinite posability, because there are still only so many angles you can pose the waist and arms at, but it was enough (especially with alternate heads available as well) to create an illusion of variety.
Edit to add: And to be clear, I'm no GW hater. The quality of the new figures is consistently amazing. I just wish they'd see that a small amount of adaptability - even just two builds per figure - goes a long way.
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2021/08/29 19:49:43
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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lord_blackfang wrote:It's highly doubtful you can even swap arms between models in the same box. Zero chance of compatibility with any other box.
At this point i'd be suprised if you could as much as swap the heads between them
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2021/08/29 19:51:49
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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soviet13 wrote:GW's approach here really makes no sense to me. It's one thing when elite units you're probably only going to buy one box of are locked in to a single pose and loadout, but who's going to want to have a horde of orkz where it's the same 9 guys and a Nob spammed multiple times?
I get that in reality even the older kits didn't have exactly infinite posability, because there are still only so many angles you can pose the waist and arms at, but it was enough (especially with alternate heads available as well) to create an illusion of variety.
Edit to add: And to be clear, I'm no GW hater. The quality of the new figures is consistently amazing. I just wish they'd see that a small amount of adaptability - even just two builds per figure - goes a long way.
People wanted cool "dynamic" poses.
Be vary of what you wish for.
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2021/08/29 20:14:19
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I guess the demand for Kromlech and Spellcrow Boyz will increase. Until now you wanted them because of a better looking upright pose, now you want them for variety and more interesting poses.
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2021/08/29 20:16:04
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Sgt. Cortez wrote:I guess the demand for Kromlech and Spellcrow Boyz will increase. Until now you wanted them because of a better looking upright pose, now you want them for variety and more interesting poses.
Given how the new Boyz seem to be exclusive to the Start Collecting kit, and the old ones are still on sale, unlike for example, the Battlewagon or the Deffkopta, i assume the old Boyz kit is here to stay, just like the old Chaos Warrios after the relase of the new ones.
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2021/08/29 20:29:23
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Foxy Wildborne
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Shoutout to the Rockgut Troggoths box, 3 fixed pairs of legs but 12 arms, 9 heads, everything fits with everything else, and each arm comes with its whole half of the shoulders and back, so the musculature even looks natural in all combinations too.
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2021/08/29 20:29:30
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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There were a lot of people myself included who warned of the lack of customisation, increased cost etc. and yet people were largely in favour of "old boyz are old, gimme new ones". This is sadly the price to be paid for that.
Same away anyone wanting other core horde infantry refreshes, brace yourselves. 12 termagants won't be £20, they'll be 10 for £28.50. Guard saw this happen loosely with the shock trooper variety sprue, but there's no way that krieg kit is coming in under £30 as a guess.
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