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Hopefully the new Ranger rifle will be a bit thicker and more durable than the Blackstone Fortress one.
   
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New models only!

40k and Non-Marines in particular have been neglected long enough. For some reason GW can churn out dozens of Warcry boxes to a much smaller player base, but we're stuck with upgrade sprues? C'mon.

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Goose LeChance wrote:
New models only!

40k and Non-Marines in particular have been neglected long enough. For some reason GW can churn out dozens of Warcry boxes to a much smaller player base, but we're stuck with upgrade sprues? C'mon.


This.

When Blackstone Fortress was revealled to have a new Eldar model, we all felt like Alan Grant being welcomed to Jurassic Park...


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Goose LeChance wrote:
New models only!

40k and Non-Marines in particular have been neglected long enough. For some reason GW can churn out dozens of Warcry boxes to a much smaller player base, but we're stuck with upgrade sprues? C'mon.


This does indeed boggle my mind. Rumors are suggesting that there's a lot coming for Black Templar, Eldar, and Chaos Marines into 2022, but heck, we still haven't even gotten the full Ork release. I get that Age of Sigmar dominated most of this Summer, since new edition and all, but man it's gunna be a long wait.

I'm pretty excited for some of the Kill Team rumors and things floating around. GlassHalfDead posted an interview with a KT playtester, and while he couldn't say much, the big takeaway for me was that the playtester hadn't really touched the Compendium units in a long while. The implication being that he had been busy playtesting bigger and better things for Kill Team.

I feel like GW is doing a slow-burner release of Kill Team much like they did for Titanicus. When Titanicus first came out, that first box wasn't actually all that great gameplay wise. Now, though, they're showing off huge new titans that look glorious and the game is super healthy and eagerly awaiting the Heretical Legios book.

Kill Team will likely go the same way. Compendium is boring and unit selection is slim, but over time we'll get more new units made for Kill Team with lots of flavor and upgrades and it'll start to swell in popularity despite the negative opinions.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:

Remember that one of the things that's got to happen is an actual, full on Kill Team starter.


It doesn't have to happen though. Thats true of GWs main studio games, sure, but this is a game coming out of the publications studio which doesn't necessarily follow the same template/release pattern. In fact, past history suggests that it won't as most of the publications studio games/products are historically "one and done" - the previous edition of KT didn't actually have a permanent starter set either, the starter set that was released was one and done too though produced in sufficient quantity that it was available for a few months before it sold out and was eventually replaced by a second starter set which similarly was only printed in limited quantities (though stuck around for much longer in some areas while it sold old in other regions).

This also kind of jives with the hints dropped by Eddie and Peachy on the reveal stream. When people were asking if it was a limited release they responded that it was in fact limited, and then said but theres a reason for that and then vaguely explained that there was a reason for that and that the name "Octarius" was a pretty massive hint as well as referring to a specific location/conflict and implied, more or less, that all the future releases for this edition of the game would be based around different warzones, etc. I think its unlikely that they put out a true permanent starter set based on this, the way the release roadmap was preview also implies that we're getting a new warzone every quarter which provides ample "starting point" opportunities for new players (4x per year, to be precise) without the need for an actual starter.

It's just the standard Hotshot Lasgun, unfortunately...but there is at least one rumor engine that looks alot like MT greaves.


So admittedly I kitbash my own MT minis and wouldn't know either way, but I was under the impression that the MTs hotshot lasguns didn't have scopes like the one in the artwork does?

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Gathering the Informations.

See, I got the impression from Eddie & Adam's statements that this was a warzone bit--and they stressed the "launch box" part, comparing it to Dominion, Dark Uprising, and Indomitus. All of which saw an actual starter set coming later on--and Kill Team would see the same.

The hotshots do have scopes.
Spoiler:


Guard, in general, are in a flux right now. There's a lot of weirdness happening.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
... All of which saw an actual starter set coming later on...
And none of which were said to be getting new big boxes every quarter.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
... All of which saw an actual starter set coming later on...
And none of which were said to be getting new big boxes every quarter.


Technically there has been no word that KT21 is getting big boxes either. We are just assuming that, but…
   
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I don't think Kill-Team will have long-term starter sets, they'll just release and advertise the quarterly KT vs KT boxes enough that they're meant to take their place.
   
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I hope any new rangers that may be coming don't have those vanes on their armor. It isn't a good look for them.
   
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Yeah, I think this will be following the AI model, with various campaign boxes, rather than a true starter.

That artwork for the CSM is all cultists and the CSM champion from the old Dark Vengeance box, which either argues against all new models or that the artwork is not necessarily representative of the boxes.

Given the rumours around Traitor Guard, chances on them starting with a KT box? In fact, I’m hoping that this is a way for GW to introduce / revamp core boxes for a lot of different armies / units and that has now got me very excited for Kroot! With modern sprues, a Kroot box could easily have a whole bunch of troops, hounds and a shaper, with a separate small sprue Krootox?

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 Zed wrote:
*All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
 
   
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ib4 Traitor Guard fixed roster team that's just a BSF sprue...

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 Kanluwen wrote:

Hopefully the image works, had to look around on Facebook(ugh) for one.

That's the Aeldari art card.



Cheers for sharing that, looks fantastic. Really would love a plastic ranger squad with a few options- the lead ranger with the sword is a nod towards the original ranger leader with sword and pistol and love that warlock. I was hoping for a Nid release but a sizeable Eldar update would hit the spot. At the very least I'd get a Killteam ranger set, especially if they ad extras for options/conversions [I'm mostly a modeller/collector so new models are the big pull for me.]
   
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In the end I just bought the books (core + compendium) and tokens set separate from the Octarius box.

I know, I know, it's a bit crazy, but I'm just not that interested in Orks or DKoK or Ork scenery, so paying the extra for that stuff to literally collect dust isn't really a savings for me at all. And the time and effort to pack it up and sell it and ship it to others online -- I guess I just can't be bothered as I don't have enough free time as it is, and that frees up an Octarius for someone who actually wants it all.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard, in general, are in a flux right now. There's a lot of weirdness happening.


Really? I think Imperial Guard is the only faction not in flux right now. It is certainly the only faction I am 100% comfortable acquiring/converting a 20-man roster for.

The Octarius rules are giving everything you will ever get for a standard IG team. Perhaps, down the line, GW will release a bespoke Scion team and/or a mixed team of guardsmen + ogryn (maybe ratlings too)... but there are a lot of factions that need to be graced with a bespoke team before Guard rotate back in.

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callidusx3 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Guard, in general, are in a flux right now. There's a lot of weirdness happening.


Really? I think Imperial Guard is the only faction not in flux right now. It is certainly the only faction I am 100% comfortable acquiring/converting a 20-man roster for.

The Octarius rules are giving everything you will ever get for a standard IG team. Perhaps, down the line, GW will release a bespoke Scion team and/or a mixed team of guardsmen + ogryn (maybe ratlings too)... but there are a lot of factions that need to be graced with a bespoke team before Guard rotate back in.

My statement had nothing to do with Kill Team, but rather was in direct reply to someone discussing the codex.

Take for example the new Cadian Shock Troops set and the promo shot used for it:
Spoiler:

Notice the triple special weapons? Lines up great with a Kill Team set, but garbage for anything but running Veteran spam. Still also missing HWT options...which is the same thing for the Krieg sprues.

There's something going on with Guard. We just don't actually know what it is as of yet. Krieg have shown up in a lot of promo art for KT and the Ork release in general, which makes me personally believe we might see something akin to the Shadowspear Vanguard Marine "minidex" for DKoK via a battlebox or something before we see a full IG codex release.
   
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Chopstick wrote:
Hopefully the new Ranger rifle will be a bit thicker and more durable than the Blackstone Fortress one.

Agreed, that's probably the least durable model I've bought in recent years. Looks great, but man is it fragile.
   
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It's an interesting production plan they've chosen for this.

You can play "vanilla" for your faction now, but the full-featured team comes out when they get to it.

It will be interesting to see what the game- release-plus-3-months box looks like. Might be a little slow till more variety is available.
   
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Just finished watching. Necrons are pretty terrifying! DW is pretty good too, but again the low model count makes em tricky..

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Not sure if much of a necro, but, at least on the international store, this is the third week Kill Team is still in pre-order.

Genuinely on shock. I didn't expect it to repeat Dominion's case.
   
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When they first announced the launch boxes they said they intended to make enough stock for them to be around for months rather than instantly sell out. Indomitus release broke that due to the high demand or under producing due to covid. Hopefully Dominion and Kill Team are what we can expect moving forward.
   
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Aeneades wrote:
When they first announced the launch boxes they said they intended to make enough stock for them to be around for months rather than instantly sell out. Indomitus release broke that due to the high demand or under producing due to covid. Hopefully Dominion and Kill Team are what we can expect moving forward.


They also said that they would only take orders for those Saturday and Sunday.
   
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 CMLR wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
When they first announced the launch boxes they said they intended to make enough stock for them to be around for months rather than instantly sell out. Indomitus release broke that due to the high demand or under producing due to covid. Hopefully Dominion and Kill Team are what we can expect moving forward.


They also said that they would only take orders for those Saturday and Sunday.

The Saturday and Sunday were for the Made to Order, not the actual stock allocations.
   
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Next White Dwarf will have 16 pages of new Ad Mech rules for Kill Team. This is in addition to a 6 page guide to Ad Mech kill teams, short story, battle report and 4 page discussion with a KT designer.
   
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Bristol (UK)

Oh boy I can't wait for four pages of "how awesome is Killtem?" "really awesome"!

The 16 pages of rules is interesting, sounds like they're getting an Octarius style team?
   
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 kirotheavenger wrote:
Oh boy I can't wait for four pages of "how awesome is Killtem?" "really awesome"!


Don't you mean "It's the bestest, most awesomest version of KillTeam (TM) ever-er and it's amazing in very single aspect and better than anything else"?

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Interesting. Is this a reaction to the complaints about the Compendium being trash, or was such an article planned all along?

In any case, if we can expect new teams & datasheets in future WD issues, that's good right? These will probably be compiled into an "Annual" type of book at some point.
   
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I was just referencing how everything GW does is always a ravingly positive advertisement. Not even a bad thing per say, it's exactly what you expect from a company's own media outlets.

It just means we can completely discount any possibility of honestly answering real questions like "what were you thinking with the shapes?!".

It'll be quite annoying if this White Dwarf does contain proper Admech rules.
Firstly, why aren't those rules in the compendium to start with?
Secondly, why did they sell Admech players a compendium only to pull that practically day 1?
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 tauist wrote:
Interesting. Is this a reaction to the complaints about the Compendium being trash, or was such an article planned all along?

In any case, if we can expect new teams & datasheets in future WD issues, that's good right? These will probably be compiled into an "Annual" type of book at some point.

Yup. It would have been already planned & printed long before the complaining started.
   
 
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