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Hull and Chassis? Gorgeous.

The rest of it? Kitbash city. It looks like the result of an enthusiastic kid enjoying themselves by gluing every gun in the kit to the model, not realising there's meant to be choices.

Though I reckon if you had the flaps down on the rockets, and left off the Techmarine, Pintel Weapon and search light, it might look more pleasing.

 carabine wrote:
Yeah I agree there's too much going on with the stuff on the turret for 40k (reality vehicles have much more junk on em but aesthetic is aesthetic).

Anyone else think this sucker is going to be a Bradley? Side and rear hatch makes me think it'll have a 6 man primaris capacity.

I'm not opposed to that kinda thing, really; I think more "realistic" levels of junk on vehicles would be cool in some cases, but for some reason with this tank it doesn't do it for me. Probably just because it's Space Marines, it looks "off" compared to their other vehicles whereas without the turret it would probably fit right in (save for Cawl's heretical "tinkering" bringing back anti-gravitic engines, anyway).

But yeah, I wonder if a squad of Primaris Marines could actually fit inside this one.

...Why are people calling it a grav raider when it's clearly rhino sized?

I agree this is a Primaris Plus size Razorback stand in.

TonyL707 wrote:

changemod wrote:
...Why are people calling it a grav raider when it's clearly rhino sized?

Is it? If that's a Primaris marine hanging out the top then it looks bigger than a Rhino.

It's actually the marine I'm basing it off, there's room for two marines to potentially lean out the top of a Rhino, and the turret looks smaller than a predator's turret.

How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

I found 6!

I would suspect the missile pods above the doors may just be frag assault launchers like the LR Crusader has, and one of the pods on the turret to be a smoke launcher.

Be nice if Cawl would give his own boys some hot new tech.. a flier or a transport maybe

I don't mind the tank but I always think of the imperium as tank-track style, bar the ladspeeder. Not entirely convinced it fits their aesthetic. Not bad overall though.

Given the stowage elsewhere on the hull, could the missiles and rockets be for infantry use, rather than a weapon system??

I think it will definitely look better if you dont have to put all those missile pods on it.
It looks land raider size to me, as well.

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

 RoboDragon wrote:

I don't mind the tank but I always think of the imperium as tank-track style, bar the ladspeeder. Not entirely convinced it fits their aesthetic. Not bad overall though.

Yeah this.
I don't like that it hovers

 Oaka wrote:

Spoiler:

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

"We’ve said right from the start that the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is one that we’d work to make even better over time. This is one of the ways that will happen. Each year, you’ll have a new Chapter Approved, expanding your gaming options and making what we think is already the best Warhammer 40,000 ever, even better.

Expect the first Chapter Approved book in time for Christmas."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/02/let-your-soul-be-armoured-with-faith/

I have some questions to the leaked stuff. Haven't found answers so far yet.

Chaos:
1. I can't find the melt bomb anywhere in the Chaos index. Are they gone?

2. I can't find vehicle equitment like dirge casters and dozer blades. Are these things gone?

Orks:
1. The looted wagon is missing in the ork index part. Is it confirmed, that its gone?

General:
The indecis mention Legions and Marks for Chaos and Clan for Orks but those things are not described in the indices. Am i missing something, or will these come with codices?

THX!

No that is how they spice it up, with addition content each year Oaks.
Possibly for balancing as well, which is good.

 TheGuest wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

I found 6!

There's at least 7 from what I can see.


Also my god can GW make Cawl any more of an annoyingly good at everything character?
When they fist came up with him the premise of a 10k old Archmagos was kind of cool, but now he seems to just be able to do anything and everything the plot needs him to do.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

It actually has 6. There's two up on the gates.

 TheGuest wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

I found 6!

There is 7.

3 on the hull (above side doors and the rear of tank) and 4 in the turret 2x on the sides (big black square with white missiles) and 2x in the front side painted differently)


P.S: i think the black squares with white missiles are some kind of melee/defensive measure for close quarters.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Oaka wrote:

Spoiler:

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

"We’ve said right from the start that the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is one that we’d work to make even better over time. This is one of the ways that will happen. Each year, you’ll have a new Chapter Approved, expanding your gaming options and making what we think is already the best Warhammer 40,000 ever, even better.

Expect the first Chapter Approved book in time for Christmas."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/02/let-your-soul-be-armoured-with-faith/

Oooh nice. So that's how they are going to add new stuff. Just like back in 3rd (was it? Its been about a decade since they last had Chapter Approved)

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Oaka wrote:

Spoiler:

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

"We’ve said right from the start that the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is one that we’d work to make even better over time. This is one of the ways that will happen. Each year, you’ll have a new Chapter Approved, expanding your gaming options and making what we think is already the best Warhammer 40,000 ever, even better.

Expect the first Chapter Approved book in time for Christmas."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/02/let-your-soul-be-armoured-with-faith/

If chapter approved works like it used to and gives you tools for customising your army a bit more such as giving build a bear units and wild conversion opportunities you can actually field, It'll be the first thing about this edition I have unreserved excitement for.

They really are trying hard to destroy internal consistency in their setting with vehicles like this.. Where were all these technological advancements hiding? I guess it's nice that a SINGLE previously unknown character magically creates them all in the last year.

Primaris should use everything space marines use since Guilliman is leading them.. you know the guy who wrote the codex astartes.

 RoboDragon wrote:
Be nice if Cawl would give his own boys some hot new tech.. a flier or a transport maybe

I don't mind the tank but I always think of the imperium as tank-track style, bar the ladspeeder. Not entirely convinced it fits their aesthetic. Not bad overall though.

Actually, it kind of makes. Pre-heresy the Imperium actually had access to quite a few varients of grav tanks, the plans of which were lost in the civil war and due to time.
If the Primaris Marines use tech from before the heresy, which appears to be the case, then it would make sense they would have some form of grav tank.

Now the question is, does that mean every one else in the imperium gets a grav tank now? Or is Cawl just going to go "nuh uh, my tank. Get your own plans"

Love the vehicle, and good to see the 40k Generals Handbook is announced.

Keep up the good work GW, take all the money!

MK X armour is Pre-Heresy? That's new to me.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Now the question is, does that mean every one else in the imperium gets a grav tank now? Or is Cawl just going to go "nuh uh, my tank. Get your own plans"

as Primaris cannot be transported by anything lese I guess this one will exclusive transport primaris

The most important piece of this tank isn't receiving any press. Check out the flying stand it's on! That sucker is thick! Like 1" diameter thick. Finally, a stand for a skimmer that won't snap!

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 TheGuest wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
How many missile pods does that thing need? Assuming it's symmetrical to some extent it has...FOUR. What's it do? Show up and fire missiles everywhere just to have a backdrop of explosions?

I found 6!

There's at least 7 from what I can see.


Also my god can GW make Cawl any more of an annoyingly good at everything character?
When they fist came up with him the premise of a 10k old Archmagos was kind of cool, but now he seems to just be able to do anything and everything the plot needs him to do.

I was thinking this as well, although to be honest it just goes to show how bad the fluff now is, ( to me anyway ).

We now have Eldar, Mechanicus, Inquisition and Space Marines with a super special character added, with Death Guard up next, literally no thought needed !!

If I were the collector of a race that has not yet been updated for 8th, I would not worry, we can assume that every faction will get a suped up super special character and maybe some units to go with him / her, at some point in the future, its the only thing GW seem to be able to come up with nowadays !

At least the majority of the sculpts are decent, they give me a reason to stay interested and to be honest it seems like two new GW fans appear every time one of us falls by the wayside, good on them !

This seems to happen quite a lot two over the past year or so, especially in light of the new storyline developments.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
MK X armour is Pre-Heresy? That's new to me.

The Primaris were designed 10,000 years ago along with their equipment and armor and kept in stasis, right? That would technically make them pre heresy.


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 kodos wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Now the question is, does that mean every one else in the imperium gets a grav tank now? Or is Cawl just going to go "nuh uh, my tank. Get your own plans"

as Primaris cannot be transported by anything lese I guess this one will exclusive transport primaris

I mean future grav tank releases. Like an Imperial Guard grav tank, an admech grav tank, inquisitorial grav tank, etc etc.

 Kirasu wrote:
They really are trying hard to destroy internal consistency in their setting with vehicles like this.. Where were all these technological advancements hiding? I guess it's nice that a SINGLE previously unknown character magically creates them all in the last year.

Primaris should use everything space marines use since Guilliman is leading them.. you know the guy who wrote the codex astartes.

That's the same thing as with Corvex. How in blazes did they lose the last imperial jetbike and still have it afterwards?

 Kirasu wrote:
They really are trying hard to destroy internal consistency in their setting with vehicles like this.. Where were all these technological advancements hiding? I guess it's nice that a SINGLE previously unknown character magically creates them all in the last year.

Primaris should use everything space marines use since Guilliman is leading them.. you know the guy who wrote the codex astartes.

I actually think it's perfectly in line with their consistency.

We know they had this tech before, but as time went on they lost the ability to produce it.

The Mechanicum becomes more dogmatic, any unsanctioned tinkering is akin to heresy, possibly if it even means bringing back old styles.

Cawl is confirmed 10,000 years old, so he's familiar with everything from the older eras. Problem is he's got to lay low to avoid claims of heresy, plus he's buried in his own work.

Bobby G comes back, suddenly he's got a change of management that's totally in support of new tech or bringing back old superior tech.

Seems pretty consistent.