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Tau certainly can be corrupted by the warp. They are living breathing beings after all. It's just that Tau don't have many pyskers. Nids could certainly be possesed by that potent powerful warpcraft. I suppose even necrons could be somewhat tainted if they were to slumber for millenia in the warp. If they can even travel into the warp.

Anyway, everything is susceptible to corruption, only through the Emperors Grace can we hope to stand and prevail!

Tau have really tiny warp signatures, so it's supposed to be hard to corrupt them, though it seems Kroot can be corrupted very easily. As for Necrons, the Warp was created to be a place that they couldn't exist in, so one would think they couldn't be corrupted and would just be "killed".

Why do daemons bother to possess humans if they could possess cats or elephants or something?

They could possess bacteria and start a plague.

Why possess a creature to start a plague when you have grandfather Nurgle doing it for you?

Best I could do dakka....

All very, very interesting...
One thing I thought I should clear up is Shadow in the Warp (or my hypothesis thereof). The thing is, the warp is influenced by the emotions of sentient beings. Many Tyranid organisms are not sentient or even have complex brains, HOWEVER, the sheer mass of neurons in a Hive Fleet generates a disruptave ripple that overwhelms weak psykers and makes it harder. Of course, then you get into the nitty-gritty and what emotions or sentience are, which makes me dizzy...

Also, quick hypothi (word I made up) on the Hive Mind: it's either one governing body (I like to think of a star-sized brain in the intergalactic void) takes care of all Tyranids, or every complex brain (Hive Tyrants (I don't think they're fully sentient, btw), Hive Ships, Norn Queens, Zoanthropes) combine to form a conglomerate Hive Mind that amplifies with each relay and is sentient: greater than the sum of its parts.

And a note on the nature of the warp itself: I personally believe it's a kind of bubble around the galaxy and can only exist locally (of course, warp dimensions are completely wacko, but you know what I mean) with the psychic beings of our galaxy.

Phew. That was a lot. And all totally awesome.

MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:...spun this around with "Despite the strengths of the various races, wether it be battleifeld expertise, technology, or other, well bucko, the Tyranids can do it better! And they're an unyeilding and innumerous foe!"..."Oh Yeah?" codex! ...

Yup, I agree. It's really dumb.

But then in this universe guys with guns need powerswords to hurt each other and 1k guys conquer a planet...

(There are already 6 billion people on earth, 60 million casualties in WW2, a full chapter is what only, 1000 marines?)

All the 40k fiction is pretty thin. I don't let the latest edition of nonsense and shenanigans bother me to much...

Solly wrote:As the younger generation nid players would say.....
nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom

If it turns out the nids are a some kind of extension of the Necros then i'm quiting GW40K forever!
Then I'm gonna buy a boat and sail that boat untill I come to a country that doesn't know about 40k....

but Somalia is a terrible place!

RxGhost wrote:I came in here to see a picture of a red carnifex bursting through a wall with a pitcher of kool-aid.

Instead I got NOTHING.

Thanks Dakka, thanks for framing my dreams for murder and sending them off to prison to be gang-raped in the laundry room for 2 cigarettes.

This actually caused me to stop reading and simply scroll through the thread, waiting for the Carnifex.

Though there was a kool-aid man / lictor comparison.

@vodo40: That'll do lad, that'll do.

Great stuff in this thread. Yeah the nids have pretty much been the invincible fluff army since 2nd edition but this codex took it to the next level.

Alright I think we've established the new 'nids are a bit "OMG WE ARE SOOOOO AWESOME THAT U WONT BELIEVE THE ONLY REASON WE HAVEN'T WON YET IS CAUSE WE'RE STILL WAKING UP LOL!!1!" but I love them anyway.

I just realised the awesomeness of if nids were a C'tan project.
Wait for it...

NECRONIDS!
Skull faced robo-bugs from the 41st millenium.

Corvus wrote:

Solly wrote:As the younger generation nid players would say.....
nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom

If it turns out the nids are a some kind of extension of the Necros then i'm quiting GW40K forever!
Then I'm gonna buy a boat and sail that boat untill I come to a country that doesn't know about 40k....

but Somalia is a terrible place!

I was thinking Guam...

Quick & dirty, but just as planned...

Oh yeeaah! Who wants some biomass?

To bad the codex actually isn't nearly as capable as the fluff in it suggests. No wait, that's good.

Mutating to be immune to pulse rifles, what, they'd have to be T 9?

Heh, the Hierophant titan is t9, maybe they just dropped them down?

It wasn't becoming tough enough to be immune to pulse weapons, it was creating a specialized defense against pulse weapons. After doing that they were still vulnerable to things like Kroot rifles and lasguns. If it were put down in game terms it would be like keeping the statline the same but giving them the special rule: Immune to Pulse Weapons. Hive Fleet Gorgon basically noticed that most Tau weapons worked the exact same way and optimised its creatures accordingly.

Yes, the carapace would basically reflect the moleculer structure of Tau weapons. Not be so tough it just doesn't hurt them.

Silly Tau, never take a pulse weapon to do a Nemesis Force Weapon's job

Sooner or later the nids will sprout some sort of arm or member to deal with those too.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Foiled Again :(

dossome wrote:Why possess a creature to start a plague when you have grandfather Nurgle doing it for you?

Why possess any creatures then?


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Snikkyd wrote:Yes, the carapace would basically reflect the moleculer structure of Tau weapons. Not be so tough it just doesn't hurt them.

Pulse weapons fire plasma balls. There isn't a molecular structure. it's just another nonsensical piece of GW fluff.

The other gods possess creatures to gain their own glory, in different ways, the plague thing is purely nurgle.

Kilkrazy wrote:

dossome wrote:Why possess a creature to start a plague when you have grandfather Nurgle doing it for you?

Why possess any creatures then?


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Snikkyd wrote:Yes, the carapace would basically reflect the moleculer structure of Tau weapons. Not be so tough it just doesn't hurt them.

Pulse weapons fire plasma balls. There isn't a molecular structure. it's just another nonsensical piece of GW fluff.

That's it exactly, the Tyranid fluff is pretty dumb here.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Snikkyd wrote:Yes, the carapace would basically reflect the moleculer structure of Tau weapons. Not be so tough it just doesn't hurt them.

Pulse weapons fire plasma balls. There isn't a molecular structure. it's just another nonsensical piece of GW fluff.

http://www.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid=8308.php



There have been advances in Carbon Nanotubes that allow for their use in an application such as protection from energy-based weapons systems (namely lasers). Would it be so far fetched to think that the Hive mind, utilizing what are essentially organic compounds to begin with, to figure out how to spawn these nifty little bad boys as an integral part of the creature's structure?

Well, they are talking about a theoretical application of nanotechnology to defend against lasers.

A plasma beam or ball is different. It contains actual subatomic particles which can physically degrade objects due to being at a very high temperature.

Of course, plasma weapons don't work IRL, because without a powerful magnetic containment field the plasma simply flies apart under its own pressure and rapidly cools down to a normal gas again.

If the fluff wants to have one impossible thing deflected by another impossible thing, it's fine really. It just makes a good story after all.

Thank you for the OP. That is brilliant. I laughed so hard.