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Cyporiean wrote:seems odd to specifically wait till Aug to announce something as big as Star Wars... and not be going to Gencon.

Have they said they aren't coming to Gencon? They very well could be since they went to the GAMA trade show this year. Especially if they are going to release something as big as a Star Wars game.

I believe the delay is due to them not being able to make an official announcement until the WotC license actually expires. Which is in June or July.

insaniak wrote:I believe the delay is due to them not being able to make an official announcement until the WotC license actually expires. Which is in June or July.

Ah, I had not thought of that. Though it would be awesome if they came to Gencon anyways.

Woot, Ill actually have money by like September so this is going to kick ass!

Is it true!!?? Please tell me its true that star wars is going to battlefront.

If Battlefront actually does a 15mm Star Wars game, I will likely crap my pants with delight. Assuming it's not pre-painted, that is.

Of course, I already love their WW2 stuff, so I don't even know what I'd do with myself.

Hordini wrote:
Of course, I already love their WW2 stuff, so I don't even know what I'd do with myself.

You could have your Nazis fight the Empire! Stormtroopers vs. Stormtroopers!

Well, maybe. I guess it would depend on the rules.

I'm more interested in Stormtroopers vs. Rebels! AT-ATs and AT-STs and E-Webs vs. airspeeders and commandos and other assorted stuff.

personally, i'm not interested in star wars in 15mm. while i could see some others wanting to do the mass vehicle battles, the size doesn't lend well to the characters in the same battles.

I think 15mm would look fantastic. Rows and rows of stormtroopers, full bases of jedis with source lighting, etc.

Though I'm first to admit, yoda in 15mm would be tiny!

"Size matters not, ... Look at me. Judge me by size, do you?"






Sorry, had to.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:"Size matters not, ... Look at me. Judge me by size, do you?"

Sorry, had to.

Only "small" dudes say that.

Those of us who've got a bit of heft & girth where it counts, well, we let our size do it's own talking!

I'm calling shenanigans.

And if Battlefront got the license, I wouldnt say thats a good thing. That is a very very expensive license to purchase, most companies in the industry cannot afford it, and those few that can... well, if it doesn't work out for them, the entire company will go under. I rather enjoy playing FoW, thank you, I dont want to see it disappear because of a potentially poor business decision.

chaos0xomega wrote:I'm calling shenanigans.

And if Battlefront got the license, I wouldnt say thats a good thing. That is a very very expensive license to purchase, most companies in the industry cannot afford it, and those few that can... well, if it doesn't work out for them, the entire company will go under. I rather enjoy playing FoW, thank you, I dont want to see it disappear because of a potentially poor business decision.

So a company should never expand into new ventures? I have to say I disagree about it being a bad business venture. Let's face it, Star Wars is still huge and will continue to be for a long time. Of the three wargame companies that could probably handle the license, I would say that Battlefront or Privateer would be the ones to handle it the best.
Also, I wouldn't get antsy just because the line went stagnant for WotC. First off, besides the main characters, what gets fans most excited about Star Wars? The vehicles. Which WotC did very little with (though they did do pretty good with what they did). A 15mm scale game would be able to accomodate so many more.
Secondly, while I did collect the WotC prepaints myself, I never played the game. It was way too simple and abstracted for my tastes and I think a lot of other wargamers felt the same.
Finally, I think there are a lot of us out there that hate collectable games. If I want a Boba Fett, I don't want to have to shell out $50 for him on eBay.
I believe Battlefront can come out with an awesome ruleset. They certainly know how to handle a large stock line and also give support to thier players.
One last thing that I think makes this a good move- With the exception of several small (but very cool) miniature companies that are doing it, 15mm sci-fi is a relatively untouched game market. Unlike 28-35mm which is getting more and more full.
Is it risky? Sure. But so are all new ventures and just staying safe with what you already have leads to stagnation.

I was just thinking, and this is pure speculation, but does anyone think that it's a possibility that Battlefront has the Star Wars license, but rather than doing a ground combat game, they'll come out with a non-prepainted space combat game? With fighters and cruisers and Star Destroyers and all that stuff? Kind of like Battlefleet Gothic, Full Thrust or Starfleet Battles, but for Star Wars? I know someone else already did a Star Wars space combat game, but it was pre-painted and collectible, so Battlefront's version could have it's own appeal.

I love the space combat in Star Wars, so I think a ground combat or space combat Star Wars miniatures game would be equally cool.

Hordini wrote:it's a possibility that Battlefront has the Star Wars license, but rather than doing a ground combat game, they'll come out with a non-prepainted space combat game?

With fighters and cruisers and Star Destroyers and all that stuff? Kind of like Battlefleet Gothic, Full Thrust or Starfleet Battles, but for Star Wars?

I think it was mentioned in this thread sometime earlier, and I'd welcome BF cleaning up WW1 aces of the skies in the same way they cleaned up WW2 ground combat.

Of the list, BFG is the current gold standard of playability, while SFB is mired in decades-old junk. Both are capital ship oriented, so moving things towards dogfighting would be quite interesting. X vs Tie to start, cheap and fun.

In the cannon though its mostly about starhips engaging at range and then fighters attempting to break through other fighters to kill the cap ships up close is it not? That could cause a greater focus on the fighters while still allow the Capital ship spam that everyone loves.

One more unusual star wars thing is that the current issue of (historical focused) Wargames Illustrated has a review of a large historical convention, but also includes two snapshots of a star wars game that was being played. The game is not battlefront produced, but the pictures were distinctly out of place in the otherwise completely historical focused review. In recent memory, there have been a couple of 40k pictures from a painting contest once, but other than that (and adverts) the magazine has not covered anything not historical related in the past.

legoburner wrote:One more unusual star wars thing is that the current issue of (historical focused) Wargames Illustrated has a review of a large historical convention, but also includes two snapshots of a star wars game that was being played.

Got a link to those?

BFs license prohibits them from advertising the game before WotCs license expires