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Frazzled wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:Exactly. Historical accuracy is important only when you're playing a historical. If I were to make an early war FoW army, I'd probably put Nazi flags on the back of some tanks, just because that's historically accurate.

But 40k isn't a historical game. It has some historical themes, especially with IG armies, but it's not historically accurate in any sense of the word. That's why it's fine to paint Whermacht themed army with the grey, the Iron Cross and all that, but I draw the line at the swastika. You're not making a 'Nazi' army. You're making a WW2 themed army.

I just think it would fit in with a weird fluff to it. Like a back story, and the whole fact that everything in Warhammer is about killing the other race for the better of yours.

@Frazz

However, down here as I'm sure you and me are quite aware. We'd get that Mexican reference easier than others.
That's just Texas history however.

Wait are you talking like Santa Anna's army? Cool uniform colors. Thats generic 1800s army unless you do other things to it.

Talking about both.

It's not that bad really, but some older Mexican/Hispanic people find it wrong.

you make errors like its your hobby one error you contsantly make is mixing race with species...
if ig murder dozens of millions of orcs it is a whole other issue. if blacks kill asiens then thats man against man. nonfictional and about living beings.

and again you MIGHT think taht your doing ist out of aesthetic reasons. but other poor bums will think you like nazis. some will get p...off by you and some will think .... well stands to reason... at least hitler did something, now we have the autobahn etc...in short you will be supporting nazi sypathies willing or not.

and if i might be so bold i will now stand beside Frazzled
and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh....


vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:you make errors like its your hobby one error you contsantly make is mixing race with species...
if ig murder dozens of millions of orcs it is a whole other issue. if blacks kill asiens then thats man against man. nonfictional and about living beings.

and again you MIGHT think taht your doing ist out of aesthetic reasons. but other poor bums will think you like nazis. some will get p...off by you and some will think .... well stands to reason... at least hitler did something, now we have the autobahn etc...in short you will be supporting nazi sypathies willing or not.

and if i might be so bold i will now stand beside Frazzled
and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh....


vik

You have a hard time typing in English. I know German so if you ever need to say something towards me in a post here. Feel free to type in German.

Also, laugh all you want, it's not even there (The IG army). So have fun.

To do Santa Anna's army? Unless you paint them brown nad have Mexican flags they are literally generic 1800s Europe. Be interesting to see how different they look vs. Napoleonic.

if i make typos then thats because this special kind of stupidity makes me a bit wound up. if i start writing in german that would keep the majority of this forum out of the discussion. also i think what use would it bring using my language? (on a side note, i´m not that bothered about my writing, it´s not that im writimg cheques or something like that so errors in writing are of minor interest i would think...)

vik

Frazzled wrote:To do Santa Anna's army? Unless you paint them brown nad have Mexican flags they are literally generic 1800s Europe. Be interesting to see how different they look vs. Napoleonic.

I can see that being something of interest too. I personally wouldn't be offended by the Mexican thing however. I know how my people can be and how they were in the past. And how some of them are today. Also, is there a game that takes place during the Alamo years?

Viktor von Domm wrote:if i make typos then thats because this special kind of stupidity makes me a bit wound up. if i start writing in german that would keep the majority of this forum out of the discussion. also i think what use would it bring using my language? (on a side note, i´m not that bothered about my writing, it´s not that im writimg cheques or something like that so errors in writing are of minor interest i would think...)

vik

You've had typos in every post you make. I figured, it was just bad English. I was hoping to make it easier for you.

If you do not have the intention of ridicolize the nazi ideology, there isn't any reason to make a nazithemed army...
Man... IG have several regiments, each themed on specific cultures (arab tallarn, german Krieg, russian vostryans and Vahalallian....)
You don't have to add swastikas and iron crosses to make an army "cool"...
BTW imperium IS a xenophobical regime and has a lot of traits from the past totalitarian dictatorships and religious states
(IG is heavy modelled on the Stalin-era Red Army)
But this do not means that everyone playing an imperium army agrees with such ideas... because the fact that any clear reference is avoided (sybols, mottos.. etc), we are able to keep the imperium in the realm of fantasy.
But if you add swastikas and similar thing, not only they're out of place (Nazis in the 40th millennium??)
but they're also offensive.
In the square next to my house 29 antifascist partisans have been brutally murdered by nazis, before the arrival of US Army... Sincerely I would be offended by an army showing swastikas and such things, just because "they're cool"...
Nazism really isn't cool... really man....

thanks but no thank you...
also what would speakj to my defence is that i have maybe a bit not suitable fingers for writing ... or i´m just lazy...

well i´m off for now... but i`ll be back...

vik

The_Savior wrote:

Frazzled wrote:To do Santa Anna's army? Unless you paint them brown nad have Mexican flags they are literally generic 1800s Europe. Be interesting to see how different they look vs. Napoleonic.

I can see that being something of interest too. I personally wouldn't be offended by the Mexican thing however. I know how my people can be and how they were in the past. And how some of them are today. Also, is there a game that takes place during the Alamo years?
***Do a search on the modeling forums about Napoleonics and Civil War IG. There are some good ideas there. Again, if you're just going with "theme" you're ok and conversion opportunities abound (muzzle loading artillery for heavy weapons, Napoleonic uniforms with lasguns, that sort of thing).

Well I'm glad this finally settled down.

But yes, point made. DON'T DO NAZI SYMBOLS.

Colors? Yes. Symbols? No!

But yes, point made. DON'T DO NAZI SYMBOLS.

Colors? Yes. Symbols? No!

OH Yes!!!

*looks at the first reply to this thread*

Oh, it was me saying exactly that

*looks at the first reply to this thread*

Oh, it was me saying exactly that

You're right... But we have to talk about something... no???

The_Savior wrote:
But yes, point made. DON'T DO NAZI SYMBOLS.

Colors? Yes. Symbols? No!

Which seems an excellent point to leave this then.