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So do eldar really, look at the shape of a wave serpent and add a turret. They just cut out the middle part and made it longer.

ref TO MAKE SOMETHING ORIGINAL

you sit down with a blank sheet of paper and work it, work it work it.

Running down to your nearest toy store , filling it up with random goods and filling up half the army slots in you entire line up is not original.

There is a place in 40k for traditional themed armies as well as more jazzy themed armies. There is also places for armes that borrow heavily from more than one theme..kind mad max / diy armies

The space marines would stand out stronger if they had their own unique vehicles that where not blatant copies of a bygone age , current military vehicles or other fads , like the fat tire biker a clone of judge dread motorcycle



I would be happy to see SM vehicles that are unique & styled to fit...whats wrong with that ?

This has to be better than plonking naked copies of whats already out there in your army line up and that's just what GW has done with the sm vehicles.....total lack of creativity here




The SM marines themselves are ok , the terminators beefed up by comparison to the right extent. The heavy duty jetpacks of the assault squad are also inline with common sense....it is the vehicles that let the SM side down.




From sniper to terminator the main troops look ok...even good. How about for a set of vehicles that has the same matching grace ? ...that would help me open my wallet.

Have you seen a Storm Toaster before, if not then it explains your thoughts as to how every piece of armor for SMs look exactly like real world....

Ok, then show us how you would design SM vehicles? Cause you've yet to give us any idea of how they should look.

I still don't think you have a point. Similar, of course, it's not wrong though to derive from a real-life source, which isn't a copyright in terms of fiction. A Rhino is also a sound design concept, as is the Land Raider, and the bikes, they are also sound concepts. When comparing pictures of the so called sources, then no, I don't think they are direct copies like you seem to believe, the Land Raider specifically is not for reasons given.

Soladrin wrote:Ok, then show us how you would design SM vehicles? Cause you've yet to give us any idea of how they should look.

I thought he said he wanted them to look steampunky(too lazy to look ) and if that happened I would promptly go to imperial guard and never look back

Narratives of all kinds are a part of our culture.
We are influenced by our culture whenever we make or do something.
It is impossible to do anything without being influenced by our culture.


Also the IoM gained its current tech through finding STCs. The difference in design is easily explainable through this.

Yeah, because making them look steampunky is original.

The design profiles of the IoM aren't mismatched.

If the entire world population united under one ruler and functioned as a single people, it's not unreasonable that certain national design aesthetics (anesthetics, lulz) would mingle with others.

swuk wrote:stuff and things

Im sorry but everytime i try and respond to this i can't help but feel like this guy is that one friend everyone has that try's to be an artsy movie critic about all movies just to make himself feel smarter than you.

Also still waiting on an answer to how NATO is a design style.

As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

I say we hold this thread up till he explains what the devil NATO design style is since that seems to be crucial to his argument and hence crucial for the opposite side of the debate to crush it.

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

2 reasons you'll never get one

1) He doesn't know
2) It's not a style to begin with....

"yeah guys I'm gonna go and dress NATO today"

Kazerkinelite wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

2 reasons you'll never get one

1) He doesn't know
2) It's not a style to begin with....

Problem is he keeps dangling it like its the key to his argument.

Kazerkinelite wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

2 reasons you'll never get one

1) He doesn't know
2) It's not a style to begin with....

"yeah guys I'm gonna go and dress NATO today"

NO!!!!! I'm dressing NATO today you can have Geneva convention!

Edit: i also have a feeling some part of this thread is going to end up in my sig.

But I want to dress NATO

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

Not Actually Thought Out?

/win.

SilverMK2 wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

Not Actually Thought Out?

You sir just won the thread. Congrats and here is your +1 interwebz (or is it intertubez i forget)

voryn15 wrote:

Kazerkinelite wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:As am I, explain how NATO is a design style.

2 reasons you'll never get one

1) He doesn't know
2) It's not a style to begin with....

"yeah guys I'm gonna go and dress NATO today"

NO!!!!! I'm dressing NATO today you can have Geneva convention!

Edit: i also have a feeling some part of this thread is going to end up in my sig.

My style will forever be that of NATO...I just....have to figure out exactly....what to wear.

ACU Helmet cover, French socks, Flecktarn pants, DPM Jacket, Turkish tobacco cigarretes, Spanish underwear, Polish undershirt, and uhm condoms from norway

Dutch clogs.

Pot from Amsterdam

voryn15 wrote:You sir just won the thread. Congrats and here is your +1 interwebz (or is it intertubez i forget)

Well, like Matt Wilson once said to someone complaining about Warmachine at the 2005 PAX convention in Seattle..."If you think you can make a better game then I did then do it! put your money where your mouth is"

Wise words to anyone complaining about a gaming system I'd say.

Pfah, at this rate we won't be having that anymore in a few years.

They want to treat weed with a THC value of over 15% as hard drugs.

Their also going introduce a "weed pass" which means only dutch people can get into a coffee shop.

I don't smoke the stuff these days, but it still bothers me, these changes are for reducing trouble for the neighbourhoods but all their doing is driving it into criminal hands...

Don't forget the U.S. rifle

voryn15 wrote:Don't forget the U.S. rifle

Nah thats what the ACU is there for, to represent the US

When I saw this topic first hit yesterday and there were no posts I was thinking about typing "Um...what?" Because it was such a PITA to follow. Now seeing 6 pages of it continue, I'd like to add in my own little bit of troll-food that I should have put in yesterday, but had better things to do with my life: like anything

So without any further or do.... "Um, what? Do you have an actual point here?"

SilverMK2 wrote:

voryn15 wrote:You sir just won the thread. Congrats and here is your +1 interwebz (or is it intertubez i forget)

LOL. I love xkcd they have a strip for almost any thread here.