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Yes, warmachine is pretty much on an even level now for finding players, at least in the US. A starter set is cheaper by a lot than getting into a 40k/WFB. You never actually stay with just a starter box, but it lets you play the game, and slowly expand, vs needing a big outlay upfront. Some of the models are very cool. I'm going to be painting up the new wraith engine, just based on the model, may never put it on the board.)

What is everyone expecting GW to answer? I can feel some of the points but if someone sent me a letter writen in such a way about my products, i know what i would do... "bin, ignore email adress"

I played Mechwarrior, and they did me dirtier than GW ever has.

They would occasionally make entire lines of models completely useless.

Monster Rain wrote:I played Mechwarrior, and they did me dirtier than GW ever has.

They would occasionally make entire lines of models completely useless.

GW has too.... Squats.

Monster Rain wrote:I played Mechwarrior, and they did me dirtier than GW ever has.

They would occasionally make entire lines of models completely useless.

Are you talking about mechwarrior dark age/age of destruction? Yeh that was a horrible game that wizkids completely screwed. Luckily Battletech is in batter hands now and MWDA was axed.

No, Slarg, GW hasn't done anything like WizKids did. They used the collectable formula to get people to keep buying plastic toys they didn't need and then started "phasing out" entire sets the way WotC did with their Magic ccg.

GW's rules are also fairer and more understandable than anything WizKids put out. Each FAQ WizKids did was one step forward, two steps backward. Ignoring us like GW does would have actually been better for us. :/

You can't expect me to take this letter seriously, I can't expect anyone on dakka to take this letter seriously. We all won't expect GW to take this letter seriously. The points are strong, but the writing is atrocious and childish.

Breotan wrote:No, Slarg, GW hasn't done anything like WizKids did. They used the collectable formula to get people to keep buying plastic toys they didn't need and then started "phasing out" entire sets the way WotC did with their Magic ccg.

GW's rules are also fairer and more understandable than anything WizKids put out. Each FAQ WizKids did was one step forward, two steps backward. Ignoring us like GW does would have actually been better for us. :/

Wow...

Wizkids were bad? I remember the time when they sold the star wars TCG pocket model game (and im still a fan of it), I can't remember if the line was discontinued though.

But is anyone listening to me, GW put a price hike to regain what they have lost, how can we win.

How can we tell them to STOP rising prices.

Anyone....

Breotan wrote:No, Slarg, GW hasn't done anything like WizKids did. They used the collectable formula to get people to keep buying plastic toys they didn't need and then started "phasing out" entire sets the way WotC did with their Magic ccg.

GW's rules are also fairer and more understandable than anything WizKids put out. Each FAQ WizKids did was one step forward, two steps backward. Ignoring us like GW does would have actually been better for us. :/

On top of that, you could still use Squats models for something else in a GW game, as evidenced by some of the awesome "counts as" stuff you see kicking around the net.

With the WizKids models in question, you just flat out couldn't use them anymore. Also, squats are one army. Comparing GW to WizKids would require something along the lines of "All models that were purchased between 1999 and 2006 are no longer to be used in official events." "D