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I've seen the political compass loads of times, I've just never heard of anyone deciding to use it referring to it as "enlisting".
Kids today eh?
Its like my graphic designer mate who puts gak like "Once more unto the breach then!" on his facebook because its Monday morning.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
TheHammer wrote:Still, biccat, if Obummer is such a bad president surely the Republicans will beat him in 2012 and surely you would love a new Battalion or Battleforce when that happens, right? Or do you not really believe the things you say on here...?
Sorry, what?
But to answer your question: no, I'm not going to buy a new Battalion or Battleforce, whether President Obama wins reelection or not. First because they're outrageously expensive for stupid unit selections; and second because I already have 2 Fantasy, 2 WM/H, and 2 40k armies.
My goal is to finish painting my O&G army by then. Barring that, at least paint my Skorne army (which has significantly fewer, although better, models).
Personal insults, per usual, cut.
Melissia wrote:
biccat wrote:So you're saying Clinton was a Republican?
No, I'm saying I wouldn't defend his actions.
So how can you "blame Republicans" for deregulation when the Democrats had (at least) a strong hand to play in the one example you cite?
Bleak_Fantasy wrote:I know lol. Another 4 years of Obama or 4 years of Romney aint so bad. I'm white and semi-educated so I should be fine.
Realistically, the only candidates that I want to lose are Bachmann and Santorum, primarily because I don't want to listen to them for 4 years. I don't think either would have a significant impact on policy.
Truthfully, one could make the case that this Presidential elections is significantly less important than the Congressional elections of the same cycle.
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biccat wrote:
So how can you "blame Republicans" for deregulation when the Democrats had (at least) a strong hand to play in the one example you cite?
I'm not taking a position on this, but I always find the following funny (quote from Wikipedia because I'm too lazy to dig it out of the House minutes):
During debate in the House of Representatives, Rep. John Dingell (Democrat of Michigan) argued that the bill would result in banks becoming "too big to fail." Dingell further argued that this would necessarily result in a bailout by the Federal Government.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Hey posters. Where can I find that political graph thing? I have a feeling my views have changed since deciding to enlist.
What you going in for Sam?
Navy, hoping for something Aviation related, but If I can't get that, mechanics are fine. I scored an 88 on my asvab, so hopefully that puts me in a place too go for a lot of things.
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mattyrm wrote: Hmph...
I've seen the political compass loads of times, I've just never heard of anyone deciding to use it referring to it as "enlisting".
Kids today eh?
Its like my graphic designer mate who puts gak like "Once more unto the breach then!" on his facebook because its Monday morning.
LOL
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Do you like seeing all the money in the land continually being funneled to the top 1% of richest people? Ever wonder why the middle class is shrinking or why it's harder to keep a job for an extended period than ever? Like the idea of going bankrupt if you get ill even if you have insurance? About 50% of American families are now considered to be living below the poverty line. Vote for one of these clowns hoping to win in Iowa this week if you want it to get even worse.
The Winner Tonight: Iowa's One Percent
George Zornick on January 3, 2012 - 1:03pm ET
Iowa may be much more socially conservative than most states—behold the recent rise of Rick Santorum—but on economic measures, Iowa more closely resembles the rest of the country. The median income in 2010 was $48,031, just off the national average of $50,046. Increased demand for agricultural products has kept the unemployment relatively low, at 5.7 percent, but over 400,000 Iowans still live below the poverty line—that’s 13 percent of the state.
So how do the Republican candidates traversing the state today and asking for support plan to address income inequality, if it all? The answer—brace yourself—is to shift even more income to the top one percent.
Citizens for Tax Justice performed an analysis of three candidates’ plans: Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Newt Gingrich. The others didn’t provide enough detail for analysis, but the numbers we do have suggest that no matter which candidate delivers a victory speech this evening, the interests of the state’s wealthiest members will surely triumph.
The worst among the plans examined belongs to Newt Gingrich—if enacted, his proposed tax structure would award the wealthiest one percent of Iowans a $228,050 tax cut in 2014. Comparatively, the middle fifth of Iowans in the income scale would get a cut of only $2,140. (Yes, that’s 100 times less). Rick Perry would hand $164,560 to the richest Iowans, while cutting taxes for the middle fifth by only $1,190—130 times less than top one percent would receive. And Mitt Romney would award $75,650 in tax cuts to each member of Iowa’s top one percent, and $1,320 to the middle fifth.
Here is CTJ's chart:
CTJ may not have had enough data to perform similar analyses for the rest of the candidates, but we can still safely assume the top one percent would come out fine under their plans. Ron Paul, for example, supports repealing the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, which allows Congress to enact income taxes. He favors a national flat tax in its place, which is of course deeply regressive. Santorum’s plan isn’t detailed enough to analyze, but he said recently that “I’m for income inequality”—so you can draw your own conclusions about whom his tax policy might help.
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BrassScorpion wrote:Do you like seeing all the money in the land continually being funneled to the top 1% of richest people?
Why yes, yes I do. Thanks for the voter guide!
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Easy E wrote:In 2008, my gut told me Hilary was not going to be the nominee.
In 2012, my gut is telling me that Romney will be the nominee.
That makes an Obama v. Romney borelection.
What if Romney walks over and slaps Obama? That could get interesting. Alternatively Obama could roll up in a red zoot suit and answer all debate questions with "Shaft, can you dig it?"
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:What if Obama walks over and slaps Romney? That could get interesting. Alternatively Romney could roll up in a pink polo shirt with a popped collar and answer all debate questions with "Where is the coloured boy with my lemonade?"
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Easy E wrote:In 2008, my gut told me Hilary was not going to be the nominee.
In 2012, my gut is telling me that Romney will be the nominee.
That makes an Obama v. Romney borelection.
What if Romney walks over and slaps Obama? That could get interesting. Alternatively Obama could roll up in a red zoot suit and answer all debate questions with "Shaft, can you dig it?"
Sure. and if he was white, we'd never get to see you type that stupid line. Please, tell us how you really feel, Fraz.
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Easy E wrote:In 2008, my gut told me Hilary was not going to be the nominee.
In 2012, my gut is telling me that Romney will be the nominee.
That makes an Obama v. Romney borelection.
What if Romney walks over and slaps Obama? That could get interesting. Alternatively Obama could roll up in a red zoot suit and answer all debate questions with "Shaft, can you dig it?"
Sure. and if he was white, we'd never get to see you type that stupid line. Please, tell us how you really feel, Fraz.
Frazzled wrote:What if Obama walks over and slaps Romney? That could get interesting. Alternatively Romney could roll up in a pink polo shirt with a popped collar and answer all debate questions with "Where is the coloured boy with my lemonade?"
That might be way more accurate. Alternatively Romney could pull up with in a Tea Party outfit, Obama in an OWS outfit and they could attempt to outprotest each other.
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alarmingrick wrote:
dogma wrote:Can Borat moderate?
Only in that rockin' bathing suit.
Yes!!! Now we're getting interesting.
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dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Alternatively Obama could roll up in a red zoot suit and answer all debate questions with "Shaft, can you dig it?"
Obama: My opponent favors government healthcare, just look what he did in Massachusetts.
Romney: Shut yo mouth.
Obama: I'm just talkin' 'bout government healthcare.
Now we're getting somewhere. I'm envisioning Bachman, Palin, and Hillary Clinton as backup singers, banging out "Shaft!"
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BrassScorpion wrote:About 50% of American families are now considered to be living below the poverty line.
Did you know that metric defines those in poverty as earning between 100% and 199% of the poverty line? Thus, a family of 5 could be earning more than $50,000 a year, and still be considered in poverty according to this metric. How on earth can you define 'poverty' as anything up to double the maximum income considered to be in poverty?
And I'm sorry, but $50,000 a year is not poverty. It's not lavish, but it's more than enough to raise a family independently in most areas of the nation.
alarmingrick wrote:Fraz, what exactly do zoot suits have to do with Shaft & digging it?
Nice one by the way. Calling ME a racist.
You brought up unfounded racist viewpoints. Its not my fault your own schewed viewpoint tied in a 1940's epically cool LA based suit fashion with racism.
Shaft says shut yo mouth!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
alarmingrick wrote:Fraz, what exactly do zoot suits have to do with Shaft & digging it?
Nice one by the way. Calling ME a racist.
Isn't it hard to call anyone a racist without knowing the intent and/or context of the message/action?
No. People do that all the time. It is in fact, I think, the opposite of hard, and one of the reasons it gets bandied about so often.
Ha, thats just racist!
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Frazzled wrote:You brought up unfounded racist viewpoints.
I wouldn't say they were unfounded. Your statement wasn't KKK racist, but it was certainly not well thought out and certainly only alluded to the President through ethic things (Blaxplotation and Zoot suits) while having a white guy slap him. Overt racism? Nah. Unintentional, thoughtless racism? Eh, maybe just a little.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
alarmingrick wrote:Fraz, what exactly do zoot suits have to do with Shaft & digging it?
Nice one by the way. Calling ME a racist.
Isn't it hard to call anyone a racist without knowing the intent and/or context of the message/action?
No. People do that all the time. It is in fact, I think, the opposite of hard, and one of the reasons it gets bandied about so often.
OK you're right, but accurately describing something as racist you still need to be aware of the context and intent right? Like describing a racial stereotype doesn't make my comment necessarily racist
unless I truly believed in that stereotype or was trying to convince others that it was true then it would be racist.
Frazzled wrote:You brought up unfounded racist viewpoints.
I wouldn't say they were unfounded. Your statement wasn't KKK racist, but it was certainly not well thought out and certainly only alluded to the President through ethic things (Blaxplotation and Zoot suits) while having a white guy slap him. Overt racism? Nah. Unintentional, thoughtless racism? Eh, maybe just a little.
Zoot suits are Hispanic in origin. Different ethnic group, so not appropriate on the racist charge. Besides they are epic cool, and would be a real treat in contrast to the usual starched shirt. Obama could pull off a nehru jacket most excellently, but it would be too mellow. As noted, we're trying to liven things up.
Altnerantively, to go with the spy vs. spy theme, we could go with Romney as a Pirate (Bain Capital after all) and Obama as a ninja.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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alarmingrick wrote:Fraz, what exactly do zoot suits have to do with Shaft & digging it?
Nice one by the way. Calling ME a racist.
Isn't it hard to call anyone a racist without knowing the intent and/or context of the message/action?
No. People do that all the time. It is in fact, I think, the opposite of hard, and one of the reasons it gets bandied about so often.
OK you're right, but accurately describing something as racist you still need to be aware of the context and intent right? Like describing a racial stereotype doesn't make my comment necessarily racist
unless I truly believed in that stereotype or was trying to convince others that it was true then it would be racist.
Isn't context and intent important even if we aren't discussing racism? Intent is problematic though becuase it is difficult to ascertain, people can be ignorant, and they also lie; context is easier to get a clearer view of. Someone can constantly make jokes about the president loving KFC and then be offended that you find that constant line of jokes offensive, but because they think it is ok becuase they are ignorant, so the intent isn't there (or they could be and when caught are lieing about it) but the context points to casual racism. 4chan is a good example of ignorance and casual racism as well. I can't explain that one more fully without violating all sorts of rules.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
alarmingrick wrote:Fraz, what exactly do zoot suits have to do with Shaft & digging it?
Nice one by the way. Calling ME a racist.
Isn't it hard to call anyone a racist without knowing the intent and/or context of the message/action?
No. People do that all the time. It is in fact, I think, the opposite of hard, and one of the reasons it gets bandied about so often.
OK you're right, but accurately describing something as racist you still need to be aware of the context and intent right? Like describing a racial stereotype doesn't make my comment necessarily racist
unless I truly believed in that stereotype or was trying to convince others that it was true then it would be racist.
Isn't context and intent important even if we aren't discussing racism? Intent is problematic though becuase it is difficult to ascertain, people can be ignorant, and they also lie; context is easier to get a clearer view of. Someone can constantly make jokes about the president loving KFC and then be offended that you find that constant line of jokes offensive, but because they think it is ok becuase they are ignorant, so the intent isn't there (or they could be and when caught are lieing about it) but the context points to casual racism. 4chan is a good example of ignorance and casual racism as well. I can't explain that one more fully without violating all sorts of rules.
Well in this instance, it aint. One could just as easily have Obama slap a Zoot suit wearing Romney. But the suit would have to be a red/black suit of course. I'd say football jerseys but does Utah even have a football team?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:You brought up unfounded racist viewpoints.
I wouldn't say they were unfounded. Your statement wasn't KKK racist, but it was certainly not well thought out and certainly only alluded to the President through ethic things (Blaxplotation and Zoot suits) while having a white guy slap him. Overt racism? Nah. Unintentional, thoughtless racism? Eh, maybe just a little.
Zoot suits are Hispanic in origin. Different ethnic group, so not appropriate on the racist charge. Besides they are epic cool, and would be a real treat in contrast to the usual starched shirt. Obama could pull off a nehru jacket most excellently, but it would be too mellow. As noted, we're trying to liven things up.
Altnerantively, to go with the spy vs. spy theme, we could go with Romney as a Pirate (Bain Capital after all) and Obama as a ninja.
You do realize I said 'ethnic' and not black right? Even still I don't buy that argument. I understand your need to distance yourself and spin your original statement, but try not to lie so badly to do so. If you want to try and do it by pretending zoot suits were only latino, you might want to do more homework, as it may have origins there but was also very popular in Harlem and other black areas and shown as such in film and other popular media. One of the most famous examples of a zoot suit, is Cab Calloway, who is not latino. Well, second most famous.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
slaps Obama? That could get interesting. Alternatively Obama could roll up in a red zoot suit and answer all debate questions with "Shaft, can you dig it?"
