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**Lockark**

You know. I'm excited for this set for 2 reasons.

1)Plastic Cultists.
2)Source of Plastic PA Chaos Lighting Claws! O______O

I'm surprised more chaos players aren't excited for that inclusion alone!

**Griever**

This box set looks like an excellent excuse to build a Fallen DA army.

**Cerebrium**

Anpu42 wrote:I actually have picked up 3 AoBR sets. Mostly because it gave me cheep Terminators and Dreads. As for the new one I amprobably also going to pick up 3. this will give me 9 bike, than all I need is a Land Speeder and Attack Bike and I already got extra of those. The Terminators, Taticals and the Chaos will be a good solid start on a Chaos Army.

That is not why I am buying the 1st one though: It’s to get a rule book that I wont be afraid to take out of the house and possibly damage. With 3 of the little books I can lend one out to the “New Guy” and not be afraid of my $75 book getting trashed. Back in 4th with Battle of Mac, I had a hard cover and three little books and I always reached for the little books because it was easier to use. I just wish you could by the Little Books on their own.

The only problem with this bit is I now have about 20 Scatter Dice.

And far too many of those damn Red Whippy Sticks.

**kenshin620**

Cerebrium wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:I actually have picked up 3 AoBR sets. Mostly because it gave me cheep Terminators and Dreads. As for the new one I amprobably also going to pick up 3. this will give me 9 bike, than all I need is a Land Speeder and Attack Bike and I already got extra of those. The Terminators, Taticals and the Chaos will be a good solid start on a Chaos Army.

That is not why I am buying the 1st one though: It’s to get a rule book that I wont be afraid to take out of the house and possibly damage. With 3 of the little books I can lend one out to the “New Guy” and not be afraid of my $75 book getting trashed. Back in 4th with Battle of Mac, I had a hard cover and three little books and I always reached for the little books because it was easier to use. I just wish you could by the Little Books on their own.

The only problem with this bit is I now have about 20 Scatter Dice.

And far too many of those damn Red Whippy Sticks.

But those are so fun to use as whips

But yea, having bunches of dice and templates and extra rulebooks is the downside of buying too many starters. Hopefully there will be a lot of ebay/bitz shop action

**Anpu42**

Cerebrium wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:I actually have picked up 3 AoBR sets. Mostly because it gave me cheep Terminators and Dreads. As for the new one I amprobably also going to pick up 3. this will give me 9 bike, than all I need is a Land Speeder and Attack Bike and I already got extra of those. The Terminators, Taticals and the Chaos will be a good solid start on a Chaos Army.

That is not why I am buying the 1st one though: It’s to get a rule book that I wont be afraid to take out of the house and possibly damage. With 3 of the little books I can lend one out to the “New Guy” and not be afraid of my $75 book getting trashed. Back in 4th with Battle of Mac, I had a hard cover and three little books and I always reached for the little books because it was easier to use. I just wish you could by the Little Books on their own.

The only problem with this bit is I now have about 20 Scatter Dice.

And far too many of those damn Red Whippy Sticks.

I usauly cut one up into 6" and 12" Lengths for easy Quick Measuering and the rest make great Tank Traps.

**hotsauceman1**

I might pick up the plastic bikes. I wonder how those will be assembled?

**Brother SRM**

hotsauceman1 wrote:I might pick up the plastic bikes. I wonder how those will be assembled?

I'll assume it will be much like the Deffkoptas in Black reach. Two main halves, plus arms and body/head for a rider. I'm pulling this out of thin air though; just thinking how it can work.

**Agamemnon2**

Hm, the space marine bike is over a decade old, I hope they revamp the basic design a bit, at least.

**hotsauceman1**

Well i hope they can be a cheap and good way to make a bike based command squad. I want to make one with all power lances.

**DarkStarSabre**

Cerebrium wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:I actually have picked up 3 AoBR sets. Mostly because it gave me cheep Terminators and Dreads. As for the new one I amprobably also going to pick up 3. this will give me 9 bike, than all I need is a Land Speeder and Attack Bike and I already got extra of those. The Terminators, Taticals and the Chaos will be a good solid start on a Chaos Army.

That is not why I am buying the 1st one though: It’s to get a rule book that I wont be afraid to take out of the house and possibly damage. With 3 of the little books I can lend one out to the “New Guy” and not be afraid of my $75 book getting trashed. Back in 4th with Battle of Mac, I had a hard cover and three little books and I always reached for the little books because it was easier to use. I just wish you could by the Little Books on their own.

The only problem with this bit is I now have about 20 Scatter Dice.

And far too many of those damn Red Whippy Sticks.

I used my like, 15 of those buggers to make my own Lightning Claws.

Super effective.

Also - I'll be curious to see exactly where they go with the power weapons on the characters. If they give Chaos all Power Maces I will facepalm properly.

**Moopy**

I sincerely hope they got rid of the old rickety "Firearms" rules renegade guard/mutants had when they were last introduced. "Gets hot" on most of the guns you have was horrible.

Lost and the Damned Army for 13th Black Crusade for those that missed the reference.

**kenshin620**

I doubt they'll use those old rules, the FW renegades had nothing of the sort

**Anpu42**

Ok, on the Challenges:
>Some said they the two Challengers Fought until one was dead, and then you moved on.

Does it say anything about WYSIWYG “Power Weapons?”
>I have a Wolf Priest armed with a Power Axe, is a Power Maul or is it a Power Axe?

Warp Charges:
>The little I have gotten to Read is it you get 1 Charge per Turn or one Per Turn, Per Level?

**pretre**

Anpu42 wrote:Ok, on the Challenges:
>Some said they the two Challengers Fought until one was dead, and then you moved on.

Does it say anything about WYSIWYG “Power Weapons?”
>I have a Wolf Priest armed with a Power Axe, is a Power Maul or is it a Power Axe?

Warp Charges:
>The little I have gotten to Read is it you get 1 Charge per Turn or one Per Turn, Per Level?

Wrong thread?

**logg_frogg**

really? Marines Vs Marines?? Jerks....

Buuuut because it's Chaos I will probably buy it anyway.

No termies = fail

**Panda**

Just noticed that the bikers have TWO attacks each in the chinese picture. Are these guys veterans? There is no such thing as an bike veteran squad in any space marine codex of any kind. Right?

Is this a glimpse at the future of the new Ravenwing, or perhaps Vanguard Veteran bikers? Hopefully with both boltpistol and CCW.

**pretre**

logg_frogg wrote:really? Marines Vs Marines?? Jerks....

Buuuut because it's Chaos I will probably buy it anyway.

No termies = fail

Just chaos up those deathwing.

**Slipstream**

I'd certainly be interested in a DA starter but; If the marines and terminators are just the black reach models with just reworked shoulder pads I'd think twice about buying it. And seeing as the new 40k paint set comes with these 'new' marine sculpts its not looking really promising at the moment. Don't get me wrong: I've bought a few minis from the last box set; just feel it would be boring to paint the exact same figs again, even with added DA icons.

**NoBaconz4You**

Looks nice. If they did do 3 separate box sets (I doubt it though) then I would be interested in the Chaos one. I'll probably end up getting the starter anyway.

**Anpu42**

pretre wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:oops you are right, i am only following 4-6 atm

Wrong thread?

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**Grot 6**

Anpu42 wrote:I actually have picked up 3 AoBR sets. Mostly because it gave me cheep Terminators and Dreads. As for the new one I amprobably also going to pick up 3. this will give me 9 bike, than all I need is a Land Speeder and Attack Bike and I already got extra of those. The Terminators, Taticals and the Chaos will be a good solid start on a Chaos Army.

That is not why I am buying the 1st one though: It’s to get a rule book that I wont be afraid to take out of the house and possibly damage. With 3 of the little books I can lend one out to the “New Guy” and not be afraid of my $75 book getting trashed. Back in 4th with Battle of Mac, I had a hard cover and three little books and I always reached for the little books because it was easier to use. I just wish you could by the Little Books on their own.

The only problem with this bit is I now have about 20 Scatter Dice.

Well, you could always run a deathwing army. take all of those termanators and switch around the gear within the new boxed sets, and the dark angels sprues that are running around, before thier prices go up.

You can never have too many scatter dice, as well. THOSE come in handy when your dropping in behind enemy lines, at least until they decide to nerf deep strikes.

**SoloFalcon1138**

The link is rather... well... impossible to read. Can someone post the pics for the Chinese-illiterate?

**Benamint**

Anyone else thought of "commandeering" the bikes for Nurgle marine use???

**balsak_da_mighty**

Panda wrote:Just noticed that the bikers have TWO attacks each in the chinese picture. Are these guys veterans? There is no such thing as an bike veteran squad in any space marine codex of any kind. Right?

Is this a glimpse at the future of the new Ravenwing, or perhaps Vanguard Veteran bikers? Hopefully with both boltpistol and CCW.

Well in a way the Ravenwing and Deathwing are effectively Vets. So it kinda makes sense to me.

I still don't like to assault with my bikes, but it sure as heck makes them better if they do get assaulted. I am so excited for the new DA Codex.

**Grot 6**

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:The link is rather... well... impossible to read. Can someone post the pics for the Chinese-illiterate?

THEN that would be NEW news about 40K, and fully against the terms of the information war that GW is conducting against us.

You know, because... a little knowledge on a upcoming purchase is a horrible thing.

**Eilif**

Thanks for posting this.

tokugawa wrote:
Chaos part:
Lord(in power armor)
Chaos Dread(with tl-melta and DCCW)
Chosen(6 men, with power maul, power fist and lightning claw)
Cultists(20 men, half with ccw and pistol, the other half have assault rifle)

I've no real interest in the Dark Angels stuff. I've got a nice BA army, and I have no desire to shave off what I'm sure will be ridiculous amounts of DA iconography. Still, while I'm not terribly interested in having a Chaos army, the contents of the Chaos side would be fun to buy just to paint and convert with.

For me it will all come down to price and contents. If GW tries to get me to pay the price of Black Reach for only one army, I'll just wait to find the mini-rulebook on ebay. If it's the same price for both (trade off the DA), or a lower price for one army, I may just buy an entire starter.

Fingers crossed....

**aka_mythos**

pretre wrote:Just chaos up those deathwing.

It is my dream... that one day GW, gets to a point where the distinctiveness of Chaos will make that too difficult to be worthwhile. The aesthetic limitation of marines+spikes will hopefully come to an end and allow GW to play with more organic and possessed forms for Chaos marines, embracing in appreciable manner the physical distinctions of chaos from loyalists as the fluff and artwork have shown.

There is a distinctive difference between creative conversion work, to thematically meld concepts with existing models, and just cheapening the hobby by not wanting to spend money on the actual model. Some people get it, some people don't. It comes down to respecting the time and energy that others put into their hobby. I'm not saying you do this, but some will follow this without any real intent.

**pretre**

Okay, fine. Just renegade up those deathwing.

I get what you're saying, but asking everyone to have the same high standards of model conversion is just not going to happen. We can't even get a good chunk of people to paint their damn models. :(

**insaniak**

Claimh_Solais wrote:Really disappointed in the dark angels marines..most boring units , aka green black reach with bikers :(

And a Librarian.

To be honest, I was fully expecting the 'new' Marine set to just be the Black Reach set with some DA re-badging, so the fact that there are a couple of new bits in there is a nice surprise.

Panda wrote:Just noticed that the bikers have TWO attacks each in the chinese picture. Are these guys veterans? There is no such thing as an bike veteran squad in any space marine codex of any kind. Right?

Good pick-up.

Note that they also appear to have done away with the 4(5) Toughness notation, and just gone with T5 that it becomes under the new multi-toughness rules anyway.

**pretre**

Are there actual pictures on that site? I didn't see them.