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Excluding the Howling Banshees, they already "allow" the Eldar to do this since they don't have sex restrictions like the Imperium does. A male Eldar Guardian looks like a Female Eldar Guardian but I think they do this more out of convenience in mass production of models than actual consideration of treating the sexes equally. Both male Farseers and female Farseers wear the same clothing for a more specialized example and yet, they still make the Howling Banshees with boob plate.
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Envihon wrote: Excluding the Howling Banshees, they already "allow" the Eldar to do this since they don't have sex restrictions like the Imperium does. A male Eldar Guardian looks like a Female Eldar Guardian but I think they do this more out of convenience in mass production of models than actual consideration of treating the sexes equally. Both male Farseers and female Farseers wear the same clothing for a more specialized example and yet, they still make the Howling Banshees with boob plate.
Actually the femguardians have boobplate but are otherwise identical to maleguardians.
Space Wolves. I've never liked the models, or the fluff (took me forever to slog through Prospero Burns - never again) and they have only got sillier over time. Presumably when they get their own flyer it will be called Airwolf...
I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.
Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.
That's the point! You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a male and female soldier. The Sisters should just have more subtle differences, like slimmer waists and slightly wider hips.
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Not only is most of the writing for them legitimately awful (in teenage fanfic style) and stupid naming conventions flooding their fluff, but they also try to be a huge number of mutually exclusive, contradictory things at the same time, and they come off as trying way too hard in the worst way.
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Its funny, nobody hated Tau when the army had a crappy, lack luster codex and was univeraly stomped by all. I've been playuing Tau since 2005 and everything about them makes them my favorit race. The sinister way they first try to befriend and then anex and incorporate alien races into their empire, their back story of how they came to be and how far they have come since the IoM first found them as savage plane dwellers, the mystery behind the Etheral control, Commander Farsight's awesome back story, the paralles of Pure Tide and Sun Tzu, their animie/manga astetics aswell as a host of other factors.
...Just felt i needed to defend from some of the Tau hate. But haters gonna hate! Guess they just got Riptide smushed a few too many times.
My personal most hated race are by far Marines. I dont mind playing against them but they just arnt my cup of tea, i've never been a big fan of poster boy armies.
Messy0 wrote: Its funny, nobody hated Tau when the army had a crappy, lack luster codex and was univeraly stomped by all. I've been playuing Tau since 2005 and everything about them makes them my favorit race. The sinister way they first try to befriend and then anex and incorporate alien races into their empire, their back story of how they came to be and how far they have come since the IoM first found them as savage plane dwellers, the mystery behind the Etheral control, Commander Farsight's awesome back story, the paralles of Pure Tide and Sun Tzu, their animie/manga astetics aswell as a host of other factors.
...Just felt i needed to defend from some of the Tau hate. But haters gonna hate! Guess they just got Riptide smushed a few too many times.
My personal most hated race are by far Marines. I dont mind playing against them but they just arnt my cup of tea, i've never been a big fan of poster boy armies.
Man where were you when people violently raged about the Tau's inclusion in 3e?
Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
Messy0 to be fair, I never really cared for the Tau fluff or model line. The current rules never really bothered me. Heck the last time I played againt Tau was with Nids, and I pretty much steam-rolled him. At the end of the game the only thing still standing was his Riptide, and all it cost me was some Gaunts.
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Messy0 wrote: Its funny, nobody hated Tau when the army had a crappy, lack luster codex and was univeraly stomped by all. I've been playuing Tau since 2005 and everything about them makes them my favorit race. The sinister way they first try to befriend and then anex and incorporate alien races into their empire, their back story of how they came to be and how far they have come since the IoM first found them as savage plane dwellers, the mystery behind the Etheral control, Commander Farsight's awesome back story, the paralles of Pure Tide and Sun Tzu, their animie/manga astetics aswell as a host of other factors.
...Just felt i needed to defend from some of the Tau hate. But haters gonna hate! Guess they just got Riptide smushed a few too many times.
My personal most hated race are by far Marines. I dont mind playing against them but they just arnt my cup of tea, i've never been a big fan of poster boy armies.
Man where were you when people violently raged about the Tau's inclusion in 3e?
I think i was too young to be scanning internet forums back then, especially with our (then) state of the art dial-up modem. People needed to use the phone too!
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I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.
Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.
That's the point! You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a male and female soldier. The Sisters should just have more subtle differences, like slimmer waists and slightly wider hips.
I doubt it is possible for (most) sculptors to do so. Currently, you can either go 100% indistinguishable or exaggerate the sexual dimorphism (boobs and hips, but mostly boobs) to a point it feels wrong to think of them as male. Perhaps with the coming of 3D printing we will get a massive number of models and someone will get it right.... if it is possible.
Another solution: exactly the same, but with female bare heads on characters. This is hard too, because long hair is not a viable option.
Another solution (my favorite): make the marines look far bigger and with wrong proportions everywhere, as they are in the fluff. And make the Sisters (and the IG) look smaller and with human proportions: 'true' 28mm scale (see FW Death Korps of Krieg) instead of the current 'heroic' 28mm scale.
Anyway, I am ok with the look of most of the models.
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id have to say i dislike the daemons most of all. And not just cause im a hard core grey knight but because their models looks silly and are too colorful and in my mind it takes too many
different types to make them really work. I havent ever come a cross a daemon army that uses only nurgle or only tzeentch or only khorne. they are either paired with CSM or a mix of all
the gods and i dont like that too much.
I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.
Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.
That's the point! You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a male and female soldier. The Sisters should just have more subtle differences, like slimmer waists and slightly wider hips.
I doubt it is possible for (most) sculptors to do so. Currently, you can either go 100% indistinguishable or exaggerate the sexual dimorphism (boobs and hips, but mostly boobs) to a point it feels wrong to think of them as male. Perhaps with the coming of 3D printing we will get a massive number of models and someone will get it right.... if it is possible.
Another solution: exactly the same, but with female bare heads on characters. This is hard too, because long hair is not a viable option.
Another solution (my favorite): make the marines look far bigger and with wrong proportions everywhere, as they are in the fluff. And make the Sisters (and the IG) look smaller and with human proportions: 'true' 28mm scale (see FW Death Korps of Krieg) instead of the current 'heroic' 28mm scale.
Anyway, I am ok with the look of most of the models.
Well took a look at Samus Aran's armor (not her Zero suit) it's distinctly feminine in it's proportions (especially the waist area) but it's not at all sexualized. Obviously her armor is way too shiny and clean futuristic for the SoB's gothic aesthetic, but that's one way for sculptors to show a model is a woman without giving them boobplate.
Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.
Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.
That's the point! You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a male and female soldier. The Sisters should just have more subtle differences, like slimmer waists and slightly wider hips.
I doubt it is possible for (most) sculptors to do so. Currently, you can either go 100% indistinguishable or exaggerate the sexual dimorphism (boobs and hips, but mostly boobs) to a point it feels wrong to think of them as male. Perhaps with the coming of 3D printing we will get a massive number of models and someone will get it right.... if it is possible.
Another solution: exactly the same, but with female bare heads on characters. This is hard too, because long hair is not a viable option.
Another solution (my favorite): make the marines look far bigger and with wrong proportions everywhere, as they are in the fluff. And make the Sisters (and the IG) look smaller and with human proportions: 'true' 28mm scale (see FW Death Korps of Krieg) instead of the current 'heroic' 28mm scale.
Anyway, I am ok with the look of most of the models.
Well took a look at Samus Aran's armor (not her Zero suit) it's distinctly feminine in it's proportions (especially the waist area) but it's not at all sexualized. Obviously her armor is way too shiny and clean futuristic for the SoB's gothic aesthetic, but that's one way for sculptors to show a model is a woman without giving them boobplate.
To be fair, Samus' armour is taking the whole 'slim waist' thing far too far.
I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.
Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.
That's the point! You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a male and female soldier. The Sisters should just have more subtle differences, like slimmer waists and slightly wider hips.
I doubt it is possible for (most) sculptors to do so. Currently, you can either go 100% indistinguishable or exaggerate the sexual dimorphism (boobs and hips, but mostly boobs) to a point it feels wrong to think of them as male. Perhaps with the coming of 3D printing we will get a massive number of models and someone will get it right.... if it is possible.
Another solution: exactly the same, but with female bare heads on characters. This is hard too, because long hair is not a viable option.
Another solution (my favorite): make the marines look far bigger and with wrong proportions everywhere, as they are in the fluff. And make the Sisters (and the IG) look smaller and with human proportions: 'true' 28mm scale (see FW Death Korps of Krieg) instead of the current 'heroic' 28mm scale.
Anyway, I am ok with the look of most of the models.
Well took a look at Samus Aran's armor (not her Zero suit) it's distinctly feminine in it's proportions (especially the waist area) but it's not at all sexualized. Obviously her armor is way too shiny and clean futuristic for the SoB's gothic aesthetic, but that's one way for sculptors to show a model is a woman without giving them boobplate.
To be fair, Samus' armour is taking the whole 'slim waist' thing far too far.
See how the arm joints are at the biceps instead of the shoulder? She would not be able to lift her arm in that suit.
Samus' armor has gone through at least five art shifts.
First of course, is the clunky space ranger armor seen in the promos of the original metroid when a female protagonist was literally the most shocking thing ever (ain't the 80s grand?)
Then there's the Metroid 2/Super metroid redesign which makes it look less like a space suit and less raygun gothic.
Metroid Prime 1 came in and redesigned the armor again, though I think it's mostly similar to Super metroid's save for the Visor being a flat T rather than a curved shape.
Then Metroid Prime 2 slimmed down the overmassive pauldrons and sleeked the armor a bit, and this design was stuck with for a while. Zero mission also trimmed down the over-bully Super metroid armor at the same time.
Other M further slimmed down Samus' suit and apparently retconned the gravity suit ever being purple.
Overall, the MP2-MP3 design is my favorite of her Varia suit designs, but my favorite suit has to be the Light Suit. The Phazon suit has a sweet colour scheme though.
Though, Metroid Fusion did show a problem with her armor similar to what Terminators face; the shoulders are so broad she'd break her arms trying to fit them in, but I think Other M's de-emphasization of the pauldrons fixed that.
I do agree that the hour glass figure on Samus' suit is a bit too extreme, but it's better than 99.99% of female armor in terms of trying to earn the male gaze.
Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
ashcroft wrote: Space Wolves. I've never liked the models, or the fluff (took me forever to slog through Prospero Burns - never again) and they have only got sillier over time. Presumably when they get their own flyer it will be called Airwolf...
I know the pain of Prospero Burns, although I applaud you for finishing it.
You say that as if a unit called "Airwolf" would be a bad thing...
Space Marines...Geneticly blended scum of the universe proping up the fascist regime of a rotting corpse. They regularly cross over to choas and cause more problems than they are worth. Kill em all loyal and choas and let thier father emperor sort them out.
DOWN WITH SPACE MARINES
I have regularly have stated, "I dont really care if I win a tournament as long as I utterly destroy every space marine army I encounter."
I had to ammend that latly since we now have a few kids and newbies at our FLGS that play them...dont want to scare them away.....however vetern adults are fair game.
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Rune Stonegrinder wrote: Space Marines...Geneticly blended scum of the universe proping up the fascist regime of a rotting corpse. They regularly cross over to choas and cause more problems than they are worth. Kill em all loyal and choas and let thier father emperor sort them out.
DOWN WITH SPACE MARINES
I have regularly have stated, "I dont really care if I win a tournament as long as I utterly destroy every space marine army I encounter."
I had to ammend that latly since we now have a few kids and newbies at our FLGS that play them...dont want to scare them away.....however vetern adults are fair game.
Hey now, Space marines make for good genecodes.
Mix some Space Marine there, a bit of Ork here, a pinch of Kroot there, a dash of Hrud there, a touch of Eldar here, and viola, new horrornids.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
Now that I think about it, I do hate the Tau and Space Marines. Not in a "This army fething sucks, remove it" more in a "I enjoy crushing this army on the battlefield". Or maybe that counts as loving those armys in 40k... no clue.
I've always hated Space Marines of all flavors.
I'm sick to death of hearing about how they dominate the galaxy despite their presence bordering on 'endangered species.'
I'm tired of seeing them on every 40k source book.
I'm sick of people thinking that their chapter needs attention when all chapters are basically the same with laughably minor differences.
I hate playing against them. It's boring.
I hate their fluff. Their continued existence makes no sense. (around 1,000,000 SMs in the galaxy, fighting for a living, and they're not extinct? Even if that were plausible, there simply aren't enough of them to impact the outcome of war with a single xenos race, much less all of them.)
The term "plot armor" can be applied to aspects of all races, but with space marines it's a gross understatement. They are the auto-win race of all the fluff. Lame.
There are so many more interesting things going on in the 40k galaxy. Shame they're all overshadowed by the most bland faction in the game.
I truly believe that if SMs were to disappear from the fluff, the 40k universe would be much more interesting.
You can't spell 'slaughter' without 'laughter'. By the time they scream... It's too late. DQ:70+S+++G++M+B+I+Pw40k94#-D+A++/areWD106R++T(R)DM+ Check my P&M blarg! - Ke'lshan Tau Fire Caste Contingent: Astartes Hunters
Archonate wrote: I've always hated Space Marines of all flavors.
I'm sick to death of hearing about how they dominate the galaxy despite their presence bordering on 'endangered species.'
I'm tired of seeing them on every 40k source book.
I'm sick of people thinking that their chapter needs attention when all chapters are basically the same with laughably minor differences.
I hate playing against them. It's boring.
I hate their fluff. Their continued existence makes no sense. (around 1,000,000 SMs in the galaxy, fighting for a living, and they're not extinct? Even if that were plausible, there simply aren't enough of them to impact the outcome of war with a single xenos race, much less all of them.)
The term "plot armor" can be applied to aspects of all races, but with space marines it's a gross understatement. They are the auto-win race of all the fluff. Lame.
There are so many more interesting things going on in the 40k galaxy. Shame they're all overshadowed by the most bland faction in the game.
I truly believe that if SMs were to disappear from the fluff, the 40k universe would be much more interesting.
They are not extinct because they have open recruiting where they draw on the billions upon billions of people to make into SM but you are right, read fluff from a different Imperial worldview and SM are pretty rare with the average Imperial citizen going their whole life without ever seeing one. They are also suppose to be elite warriors who don't die
I can understand why some people don't like SM, they are, for the most part, a hero fantasy. A genetically modified every man that one can visual themselves as. It's what always drew me towards the Inquisition more and I do also agree that SM are over represented in BL books when fantasy has a lot more variety when it comes to representing the different armies but I have never understood this kind of hatred towards an army. I have my dislikes or just not interested armies but I have never fully hated one army or another. SM are over-played but they are also the jack of trades army to get people into the hobby and I know a lot of people who started the hobby with SM because they are the easiest army to "get" and then once they are in, they see the different armies and continue with one of those or maybe they choose to stay with SM. I do wish that they would up the amount of fluff for other armies though past just the codices. The new Necrons would be able to have books about them from their perspective given more of the new personality. We are seeing more Eldar and Dark Eldar stuff which to me is pretty awesome, I would like some Tau stuff as well. I even think an Ork book could be pretty amusing, if we have Chaos books and DE books, why can't we have Ork books. A Tyranid book would be hard, given hive intelligence but I also think that would ruin the ominous shadow of destruction over the galaxy thing that they have.
For me, I am attracted to SM because I am a sucker for Robert Heinlein's power armor.
Each race contributes to a gigantic galaxy wide stalemate where no one wins.
Archonate wrote: I've always hated Space Marines of all flavors.
I'm sick to death of hearing about how they dominate the galaxy despite their presence bordering on 'endangered species.'
I'm tired of seeing them on every 40k source book.
I'm sick of people thinking that their chapter needs attention when all chapters are basically the same with laughably minor differences.
I hate playing against them. It's boring.
I hate their fluff. Their continued existence makes no sense. (around 1,000,000 SMs in the galaxy, fighting for a living, and they're not extinct? Even if that were plausible, there simply aren't enough of them to impact the outcome of war with a single xenos race, much less all of them.)
The term "plot armor" can be applied to aspects of all races, but with space marines it's a gross understatement. They are the auto-win race of all the fluff. Lame.
There are so many more interesting things going on in the 40k galaxy. Shame they're all overshadowed by the most bland faction in the game.
I truly believe that if SMs were to disappear from the fluff, the 40k universe would be much more interesting.
They are not extinct because they have open recruiting where they draw on the billions upon billions of people to make into SM but you are right, read fluff from a different Imperial worldview and SM are pretty rare with the average Imperial citizen going their whole life without ever seeing one. They are also suppose to be elite warriors who don't die
I can understand why some people don't like SM, they are, for the most part, a hero fantasy. A genetically modified every man that one can visual themselves as. It's what always drew me towards the Inquisition more and I do also agree that SM are over represented in BL books when fantasy has a lot more variety when it comes to representing the different armies but I have never understood this kind of hatred towards an army. I have my dislikes or just not interested armies but I have never fully hated one army or another. SM are over-played but they are also the jack of trades army to get people into the hobby and I know a lot of people who started the hobby with SM because they are the easiest army to "get" and then once they are in, they see the different armies and continue with one of those or maybe they choose to stay with SM. I do wish that they would up the amount of fluff for other armies though past just the codices. The new Necrons would be able to have books about them from their perspective given more of the new personality. We are seeing more Eldar and Dark Eldar stuff which to me is pretty awesome, I would like some Tau stuff as well. I even think an Ork book could be pretty amusing, if we have Chaos books and DE books, why can't we have Ork books. A Tyranid book would be hard, given hive intelligence but I also think that would ruin the ominous shadow of destruction over the galaxy thing that they have.
For me, I am attracted to SM because I am a sucker for Robert Heinlein's power armor.
Each race contributes to a gigantic galaxy wide stalemate where no one wins.
I probably wouldn't hate them if all armies got equal representation. I feel like GW is trying to shove an army that I'm not interested in down my throat... Over and over and over. After so long, I've turned from indifference to eye-rolling fatigue.
For BL books, I LOVE the Eldar and DE books. DE books are not only well written, but also have fantastic plots in motion. I've long admired Andy Chambers as a talented genius of fantasy/sci-fi writing. He gives an unprecedented view of life in Commoragh and the exploits of its denizens. The Eldar books are not as well written, but also give a window of such detail into life on a Craftworld. It's tragic that after all this time, we're only now getting these glimpses into other races. This is thanks to GW insisting for years that only SMs are allowed to be cool.
Only recently is a Tau series being put in the works. It'll be by Phil Kelly and supposedly based on the story of Commander Farsight. (Though if you ask me, it doesn't even need to be that grand. If he wrote a story about a Bonded squad of Tau Pathfinders, it would be akin to Gaunt's Ghosts, only with much cooler gadgets.) Take note though, we're only getting these fantastic books because GW has backed away from their "ALL SPACE MARINES, ALL THE TIME!" mentality... Notice the abundance of non-SM Codex releases in 6th Edition. Tis a good trend I hope they continue.
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Necrons. Their lore is a joke, their pre-5e models are fine but their new models with all the weird Tau circular eyepieces and absurdist flimsy-looking hovertanks that don't look anything like the Monolith look like crap, and their rules are horribly written (when it comes to unique nobody-else-can-have-anything-even-remotely-like-this things, less is more).
AnomanderRake wrote: Necrons. Their lore is a joke, their pre-5e models are fine but their new models with all the weird Tau circular eyepieces and absurdist flimsy-looking hovertanks that don't look anything like the Monolith look like crap, and their rules are horribly written (when it comes to unique nobody-else-can-have-anything-even-remotely-like-this things, less is more).
Dont forget we have some fancy toys of our own my grey knight brother. Who else shunts 30 inches just cause they can?
Archonate wrote: I've always hated Space Marines of all flavors.
I'm sick to death of hearing about how they dominate the galaxy despite their presence bordering on 'endangered species.'
I'm tired of seeing them on every 40k source book.
I'm sick of people thinking that their chapter needs attention when all chapters are basically the same with laughably minor differences.
I hate playing against them. It's boring.
I hate their fluff. Their continued existence makes no sense. (around 1,000,000 SMs in the galaxy, fighting for a living, and they're not extinct? Even if that were plausible, there simply aren't enough of them to impact the outcome of war with a single xenos race, much less all of them.)
The term "plot armor" can be applied to aspects of all races, but with space marines it's a gross understatement. They are the auto-win race of all the fluff. Lame.
There are so many more interesting things going on in the 40k galaxy. Shame they're all overshadowed by the most bland faction in the game.
I truly believe that if SMs were to disappear from the fluff, the 40k universe would be much more interesting.
They are not extinct because they have open recruiting where they draw on the billions upon billions of people to make into SM but you are right, read fluff from a different Imperial worldview and SM are pretty rare with the average Imperial citizen going their whole life without ever seeing one. They are also suppose to be elite warriors who don't die
I can understand why some people don't like SM, they are, for the most part, a hero fantasy. A genetically modified every man that one can visual themselves as. It's what always drew me towards the Inquisition more and I do also agree that SM are over represented in BL books when fantasy has a lot more variety when it comes to representing the different armies but I have never understood this kind of hatred towards an army. I have my dislikes or just not interested armies but I have never fully hated one army or another. SM are over-played but they are also the jack of trades army to get people into the hobby and I know a lot of people who started the hobby with SM because they are the easiest army to "get" and then once they are in, they see the different armies and continue with one of those or maybe they choose to stay with SM. I do wish that they would up the amount of fluff for other armies though past just the codices. The new Necrons would be able to have books about them from their perspective given more of the new personality. We are seeing more Eldar and Dark Eldar stuff which to me is pretty awesome, I would like some Tau stuff as well. I even think an Ork book could be pretty amusing, if we have Chaos books and DE books, why can't we have Ork books. A Tyranid book would be hard, given hive intelligence but I also think that would ruin the ominous shadow of destruction over the galaxy thing that they have.
For me, I am attracted to SM because I am a sucker for Robert Heinlein's power armor.
Each race contributes to a gigantic galaxy wide stalemate where no one wins.
I probably wouldn't hate them if all armies got equal representation. I feel like GW is trying to shove an army that I'm not interested in down my throat... Over and over and over. After so long, I've turned from indifference to eye-rolling fatigue.
For BL books, I LOVE the Eldar and DE books. DE books are not only well written, but also have fantastic plots in motion. I've long admired Andy Chambers as a talented genius of fantasy/sci-fi writing. He gives an unprecedented view of life in Commoragh and the exploits of its denizens. The Eldar books are not as well written, but also give a window of such detail into life on a Craftworld. It's tragic that after all this time, we're only now getting these glimpses into other races. This is thanks to GW insisting for years that only SMs are allowed to be cool.
Only recently is a Tau series being put in the works. It'll be by Phil Kelly and supposedly based on the story of Commander Farsight. (Though if you ask me, it doesn't even need to be that grand. If he wrote a story about a Bonded squad of Tau Pathfinders, it would be akin to Gaunt's Ghosts, only with much cooler gadgets.) Take note though, we're only getting these fantastic books because GW has backed away from their "ALL SPACE MARINES, ALL THE TIME!" mentality... Notice the abundance of non-SM Codex releases in 6th Edition. Tis a good trend I hope they continue.
I can understand a lot of that. GW for the longest time refused to have any books from an alien perspective because they feel that authors would ruin the "mystique" of the what the aliens are by doing this. Translation: We had a lot of authors try and completely fail to write so we are giving up (Fire Warrior and C.S. Goto are the two main reasons that come to mind). My argument against that, there have been plenty of bad SM and Imperial novels, never stopped them before. If they were so afraid of too humanizing them, they why did they do it with the Necron codex? And as you said the Eldar and DE stuff they are coming out with has been pretty good. I have yet to get to it but I have listened to the audio dramas and they are pretty awesome. GW needs to realize that people other than Imperial players want to explore their armies past their codices. Get into the mind of a normal Tau warrior, the reasons why Necrons are doing what they are doing. They have shown that they can do a villains perspective too with the success of their CSM novels. They need to find people who are willing to read the codices when they write and they won't get bad xenos novels.
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