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 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Building them now...my love for metal is slowy turning into a burning hate...how the hell am i meant to build 'pain' engine walkers or celestian????

You need to pin them. That is the best way to do it although it actually will go together without that. Staying that way?

Also: use Epoxy on it. Just do it. Two part epoxy is the answer to all models like that one that are just so big and heavy that they need the reinforcement. Once Epoxy is on there... the model will break before it does.


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 rybackstun wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
yeah everyone acts like an expert on Sisters of Battle and tells me how low tier they are. Seems they dont play against them enough to know better.

Which is fine for me!

It was more along the lines of how bad the White Dwarf-dex was as I was looking through it back in 5th/6th?.

I look forward to playing them some more

Well i didn't struggle with the White Dwarf Codex either. I was very sad they removed Kyrinov. don't get it. He's even mentioned in the fluff in th new codex. Oh well. He was one of the few ways i found a way to actually use Celestians.

If Celestians are ever fixed (meaning they actually get a pistol AND close combat weapons, 4 attacks on the charge and can be taken in 20's somewhat like the treatment Necrons gave their diseased little buddies) then perhaps we could take us some Celestians but that is the one unit i cannot finsd any use for outside the Sororitas Command Squad.

Yes but only as a addition to my guard army so about 500 points of them. So 2-3 rhinos and 2-3 squads.

 Jancoran wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Building them now...my love for metal is slowy turning into a burning hate...how the hell am i meant to build 'pain' engine walkers or celestian????

You need to pin them. That is the best way to do it although it actually will go together without that. Staying that way?

Also: use Epoxy on it. Just do it. Two part epoxy is the answer to all models like that one that are just so big and heavy that they need the reinforcement. Once Epoxy is on there... the model will break before it does.


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 rybackstun wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
yeah everyone acts like an expert on Sisters of Battle and tells me how low tier they are. Seems they dont play against them enough to know better.

Which is fine for me!

It was more along the lines of how bad the White Dwarf-dex was as I was looking through it back in 5th/6th?.

I look forward to playing them some more

Well i didn't struggle with the White Dwarf Codex either. I was very sad they removed Kyrinov. don't get it. He's even mentioned in the fluff in th new codex. Oh well. He was one of the few ways i found a way to actually use Celestians.

If Celestians are ever fixed (meaning they actually get a pistol AND close combat weapons, 4 attacks on the charge and can be taken in 20's somewhat like the treatment Necrons gave their diseased little buddies) then perhaps we could take us some Celestians but that is the one unit i cannot finsd any use for outside the Sororitas Command Squad.

Any suggestions for pinning? the model joints are really small and I have heard people using anything from needles to wooden dowls.

I chop paper clips up, or if I want something stronger the arms of a bulldog clip (use an old pair of cutters though, and definitely not your plastic cutter ones because you'll probably damage them chopping the hard-metal). We've got thousands of them here at work so no-one will notice a few going missing

 GoonBandito wrote:
I chop paper clips up, or if I want something stronger the arms of a bulldog clip (use an old pair of cutters though, and definitely not your plastic cutter ones because you'll probably damage them chopping the hard-metal). We've got thousands of them here at work so no-one will notice a few going missing

I am only just getting back into 40k (last played 3rd and start of 4th) and that is exactly what I did, when converting/pinning etc metal minis.

In regards to collecting SOB (think I have 1000pts or so lying around, was one of my side armies), totally. If the new plastic models were similar to the old models, just had a plastic revamp (eg were segmented into pieces like a space marine tactical squad etc). Then could integrate the old models in with the new in regards to overall look of the army. If it was a total over-haul, so the new models look totally different, then would pass.

Well... I got one penitence engine made.... kinda. Im kinda wanting plastics but the weight behind it is just too good!
Oh and if anyone feels the need to rid themselves of their sisters give me a shout

I'd settle for a reboxing and full support of the current models in the line. New models more than likely means new look. I'll be careful what I wish for and be happy I have a ton more than I'll ever need. Adding repressor bits to the immolator be okay, but since I already have enough for four or five armies painted, maybe this question isn't for me.

Tweak Celestians to fit their role(I say power weapons and rosaries or better invuln), Repentia to be a bit cheaper (I'd prefer larger units that are faster for less effect if necessary). Put the Repressor and our flyer in the dex, give PE's IWND and a palatine/canoness slot with HQ's that can equip jump packs and useful bits to make them cool enough to compare to our Living Saint, and I'm totally happy with the entire Dex.

Of course a Lord of War Baneblade with a church on top and a torrent APOC size flamer template that can carry 40 models who all can assault out of it fixes most of those issues anyways. Oh wait, I already have one of those....

Keep your flamer well fueled and your inferno pistol close!

If this thread was a year ago, then I would have said yes.

I have however given up on Sisters completely and gone over to Skitarii.

Skitarri are okay i guess but they are nothing like sisters of Battle, really in any way. odd Sequiter.

The Sisters of Battle I have been playing win a lot. The only recent defeat I had was against a Tau player and that was motre of a collossal dice breakdown than anything else. he seized initiative, to start the game, I flubbed during an assault for three rounds straight which was kind of hilarious and he rolled like Gawd. Even then he barely won.

What I like about Sisters of Battle is that they have a lot of character, their Iconography is GREAT, the Acts of Faith and Shield of Faith really give them an identity that is truly its own, and they have tools for every job that needs doing.

they are dated and struggle with things like a Wraith Knight and they have no anti-air built into the list so those two things force you to REALLY learn to play them. But there are answers to those things to. Not optimized ones, but there are.

So given all that, if they add the jet into the codex, added a Sisters Specific Imperial Knight into the Codex (I hate Knights but it would be cool) and they COMMIT to a role for Celestians, give the darn penitent Engine Init 4 that would be a solid start.

make the Exorcist kit a multi-kit that can do the Rhino or Immolator. Add a Repressor model. hell give them an Assault vehicle and people would be all over it.

Lots of choices would make them popular.

 Jancoran wrote:
Skitarri are okay i guess but they are nothing like sisters of Battle, really in any way. odd Sequiter.

The point was, a year ago I was still sitting around, waiting for the plastics, as I had been for many many years before.

But then I decided when Skitarii came out that they were the only army other than Sisters that truly held my attention, and that let me emotionally let go of the hopes of ever getting plastic sisters. Now, after having let go, plastic sisters interest me not at all anymore.

Honestly it depends on the price. If they're priced like the Skitarii box ($45ish for 10 with all weapons options) then I'd get a couple for an allied detachment. If they're priced like the Scions ($45ish for half a squad when you need a minimum of 2 and a half squads) then no, I wouldn't bother.

I like the minis, I like the background. If I'm going to pay $10/ mini then gods let it be metal. Even mono-pose is fine by me. You can't get too many realistic poses out of bolter-wielding line infantry. My Crimson Fists only manage it because I've purposefully made them sort of rag-tag non Codex-adherent.

Just played my first game with sisters vs space marines... I need more exorcists and these girls ROCK! I for sure would buy more, and even if they got plastic I might even give them a shot too.

yeah, they have a lot of character, as much as the Mechanicum for me, this is why I wish they were plastic models.
I would do a little witch hunters allied detachement.
They truly belong to 40k, it is sad GW has forgotten them.

 Pouncey wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Building them now...my love for metal is slowy turning into a burning hate...how the hell am i meant to build 'pain' engine walkers or celestian????

As for the Penitent Engines, after nearly hurling one through a window, I spent a couple of weeks cooling off and then used copious amounts of green stuff.

Most competent modelers (not me when it comes to metal) would've opted for pinning. Lots, and lots, of pinning.

Also, Celestine could benefit from pinning/green stuff too. Personally, I modified mine to use a Blood Angels winged backpack that comes with the Sanguinary Guard.

Celestians on the other hand are essentially normal Sororitas infantry models with some extra gold trim and a different-color line near the edges of their robes. Essentially just a slightly different paint job.

Honestly they are so cheap right now it is well worth to buy them if you can handle the building of them, when a plastic one (if) comes out it would be 50$ for sure.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Building them now...my love for metal is slowy turning into a burning hate...how the hell am i meant to build 'pain' engine walkers or celestian????

As for the Penitent Engines, after nearly hurling one through a window, I spent a couple of weeks cooling off and then used copious amounts of green stuff.

Most competent modelers (not me when it comes to metal) would've opted for pinning. Lots, and lots, of pinning.

Also, Celestine could benefit from pinning/green stuff too. Personally, I modified mine to use a Blood Angels winged backpack that comes with the Sanguinary Guard.

Celestians on the other hand are essentially normal Sororitas infantry models with some extra gold trim and a different-color line near the edges of their robes. Essentially just a slightly different paint job.

Honestly they are so cheap right now it is well worth to buy them if you can handle the building of them, when a plastic one (if) comes out it would be 50$ for sure.

They finally got simulacums in stock so just made me second order (seraphim(2 flamer), cannoness, 3 exorcists, melta guns) and while it was stupid expensive (400 canadian) Im SURE they will pull the Harelyquinn bs again and charge full price for a min squad.

Simulacrum Imperialis is gold. Especially for my Dominions.

 Jancoran wrote:
Simulacrum Imperialis is gold. Especially for my Dominions.

Yeah, I love the idea of 4 scout melta ignore cover. I ordered 5 of them since ill be running 5 squads of 3 sisters +melta currently.

To keep to the topic. Yes I would play them and as it stands, there current Codex is still actually pretty dang good and I would use it. Do beleive that if they ever do get a model remake, that GW would do so with a new Codex to help make it sell. With that being the case, the Sisters of Battle Army only really lacks a Hvy. Armored, hard-hitting unit and there own unique flyer, as the rest of their Army is very solid. Something akin to Sisters of Battle in Terminator Armor or something similar is what I had in mind, and as for the flyer, something that utilizes the Holy Trinity of Weaponry. Thinking Multi-Meltas or a Special Hvy. Bolter Weapon. Other then that Sisters are good to go imo.

The only reason I wouldn't play them in 40k isn't because they are metal. I like metal. I prefer it to plastic in a lot of cases.

It's a lackluster rule set (not for the army, for the game).

If they came out in plastic, would I buy them? Depends. If they let someone like Jes Goodwin do the sculpts, very probably (but bottom line, is I have to LIKE the models enough to want them).

It still wouldn't be enough to get me back into 40k, though. A painting project, yes. Figures for another set of rules, yes.