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Guys, why is so hard to you to stop this conversation right here? Theres no obligation to answer to a obviously political statmen of other poster. You have the yellow triangle of friendship.

Meh. The argument of "I'm not being political, everyone else is!" is one of the 9999 pet peeves of mine. Regardless, you have a point in that this IS getting off topic, so I'm bowing out.

drbored wrote:
That kickstarter could have been canceled by a cease and desist by GW.

Yeah I didn't think of that. I saw on News and Rumors that there would be an update about the Kickstarter cancelment tomorow night so we'll know more about it then:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2370/604883.page#9633034

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

drbored wrote:
That kickstarter could have been canceled by a cease and desist by GW.

Yeah I didn't think of that. I saw on News and Rumors that there would be an update about the Kickstarter cancelment tomorow night so we'll know more about it then:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2370/604883.page#9633034

Thanks! I guess we'll just keep an eye on this to see what happened... But if GW intervened in any way, that really only supports Sisters coming sooner.

it's definitely reasonable that we might get plastic sisters. GW getting involved only furthers this notion.

I just hope they do it.

For a Sisters of Battle fanatic like myself, it just seems like too much.

Adding in that they just released the Sisters of Battle Omnibus, they did a Sisters of Battle daily paint tutorial on Warhammer TV, they mention Sisters of Battle in the Space Marine and Astra Militarum Codexes when they certainly don't have to... It's a lot of little things that make it seem like the Sisters have been getting more and more attention from GW lately.

drbored wrote:
they did a Sisters of Battle daily paint tutorial on Warhammer TV

Yeah, about that :

drbored wrote:
they mention Sisters of Battle in the Space Marine and Astra Militarum Codexes when they certainly don't have to...

Do they do more than being beaten up until the marines/guard arrive to save the day?
Or provide anti-demonic blood to use on armors?

In the Space Marine Codex they're saved by Guilliman in the Indomnitus Crusade and in the AM Codex they are mentioned as being more faithful even than Crusaders that are now in the AM Dex.

IDK, it does show them there is at least interest in some form of plastic SOB, enough most likely to make a line.

They'll have an update soon on the kick starter.

drbored wrote:
In the Space Marine Codex they're saved by Guilliman in the Indomnitus Crusade

Oh the usual damsel in distress sisters, great!

drbored wrote:
and in the AM Codex they are mentioned as being more faithful even than Crusaders that are now in the AM Dex.

More taking units away from the Sisters to put them in other codex instead. Not really a good sign...

I don' t think they're being taken away, simply shared as crusaders and preist both possess both the <Astra militarum> and <Adeptustus Ministorum> keywords. Their abilities like Zealot and Act of Faith also are outside the realm of IG's abilities.

I'd look at it more as throwing a bone to those of us with regiments on the more zealous side.

 Ir0njack wrote:
I don' t think they're being taken away, simply shared as crusaders and preist both possess both the <Astra militarum> and <Adeptustus Ministorum> keywords.

Starts like this. And then when a new WDex is released after an edition change you find out crusaders have disappeared.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Ir0njack wrote:
I don' t think they're being taken away, simply shared as crusaders and preist both possess both the <Astra militarum> and <Adeptustus Ministorum> keywords.

Starts like this. And then when a new WDex is released after an edition change you find out crusaders have disappeared.

Why do you keep coming to this topic just to be a downer, man?

If GW wanted to squat the sisters, they wouldn't make any mention of them at all in any Codex. I remember past rulebooks, I believe it was... 6th edition? They weren't mentioned at all. In 7th, they were mentioned thanks to their digital codex and now in 8th they're being mentioned in not just the rulebook, but other Codexes as well.

Also Crusaders aren't really Adepta Sororitas at all. They're just Ministorum. In my ideal world, Sisters would get their own fully fleshed out Codex that wouldn't need priests or crusaders, and all those other things would get thrown into an 'Imperial Agents' Codex that would cover assassins, imperial knights, the rest of the ministorum stuff, inquisitors, and whatever else doesn't fit into other codexes.

drbored wrote:
Why do you keep coming to this topic just to be a downer, man?

Because I have lost all hope with time .
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drbored wrote:
If GW wanted to squat the sisters, they wouldn't make any mention of them at all in any Codex.

They don't want to squat the Sisters. Remember how Guiliman was before the whole Gathering Storm stuff? Perpetually frozen in time in a stasis, slowly being poisoned? That's how GW wants the Sisters to be.

drbored wrote:
I remember past rulebooks, I believe it was... 6th edition? They weren't mentioned at all. In 7th, they were mentioned thanks to their digital codex and now in 8th they're being mentioned in not just the rulebook, but other Codexes as well.

In 5th edition Sisters played a big role in the Grey Knight codex!

drbored wrote:
Also Crusaders aren't really Adepta Sororitas at all. They're just Ministorum.

They aren't really Ministorum either. They are weird stuff with basically no background that dates from when GW thought their new 54mm scale game was so cool they wanted to include all of it in 40k too. I wouldn't mind them being replaced by new units in a new Codex Sororitas, but in practice it's always less stuff rather than stuff being replaced...

We've got ANOTHER rumor at Sisters of Battle being released soon!!!

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/10/was-sisters-of-battle-meant-released.html

via LordValrak on Bolter and Chainsword
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340108-reset-the-clock-sob-rumour/page-2
I did a video on this (the Sisters of Battle Rumor) and was sent a PM on the matter, take it as you will:

Hey Valrak. First off, great videos man!
Just watched your sisters video and I have some info you might be interested in about them. Comes from a GW employee and then a GW store owner:
We were supposed to get them before 8th became a thing. But with the whole shipping debacle they've been going through. The sisters got tied up. So they decided to hold off, wait for 8th to drop and just release them in full. Which is why we got some weird releases before the dropping of 8th. They used their "filler" releases.
There it is. Take from it what you will. Have a good one man.



The hype is building up guys. As much as you nay-sayers love to nay-say, I am going to hold the faith. As a true Sisters of Battle fan, it is only when we are tested to our limit that the Emperor rewards us for retaining our faith.

I hope you guys get plastic minis. It's only right and fair.

Martel732 wrote:
I hope you guys get plastic minis. It's only right and fair.

Thanks man! I hope Eldar get their updates, and we get some love for Emperor's Children, and new Khorne Berzerkers too. I'm not just a fanatic about Sisters of Battle, I think there's a lot that GW needs to get their butts on updating, not just more loyal Space Marines!

Loyalists have too many kits. BA alone have too many kits, and we don't have access to many things the vanilla guys do.

Martel732 wrote:
Loyalists have too many kits. BA alone have too many kits, and we don't have access to many things the vanilla guys do.

I've always been in favor of putting the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves into the vanilla codex, giving them Chapter Tactics like the rest and tossing out some random shoulder pad upgrade packs...

But GW wouldn't make it if it didn't make money. The only times they've tried things that they weren't sure were going to make money were Dark Eldar and the Canoness Veridyan. Surprise, surprise, both of those made BANK.

I think a new Sisters line would be awesome and well deserved. I would probably have to fight myself pretty hard not to start an army of them because they've always been on of my favorite factions.

Buuuut - prepare to hate me for a bit of advocacy for the devil. Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

Hardcore Sisters fans are already used to tempering their expectations, but all I'm saying is that I'm not personally going to get excited because some guy heard from some guy that some kid who works for a GW store accidentally let slip about a Sisters Release. If it happens, great. I think one thing all of us can agree on is that we'd like to see just about anything happen before more Space Marines come out, but alas.

If there was anything that was going to convince me to start a totally new army, it's probably sisters getting updated. Didn't buy nearly as much as I thought I would for the DG update, so maybe I'll set some of that aside for potential sisters.

How angry would people be if sisters got a plastic release, but they pulled an AoS and it was all sisters repentia with a bunch of different variations, and nothing for the main portion? I don't even want to imagine it.

If they do release plastic kits I can't imagine that the standard squad wouldn't be one of them, but then again I won't put anything past GW.

Another rumor the same as the rest. Still no substance.

I'll believe this kind of rumours the day I'll see a blurry pick like the one of the Primaris or Mortarion we had.

drbored wrote:
We were supposed to get them before 8th became a thing. But with the whole shipping debacle they've been going through. The sisters got tied up. So they decided to hold off, wait for 8th to drop and just release them in full. Which is why we got some weird releases before the dropping of 8th. They used their "filler" releases.

I really don't understand how anyone could fall for that. “Sisters are ready since 8th but we manage to deliver the whole primaris marine and death guard on time”. Yeah right!

Yep pretty much.

I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a GW store. He said Sisters of Battle are not happening anytime soon. I quote:

"Yeah, i dont see them being worked on until after everything has a Codex"

The reasons for this are a, once again, "financial risk" atm, because there's not enough guarantee that enough people would actually buy plastic Sisters, despite all the wishlisting, hard-core players, and newer players waiting to buy some.

 Luciferian wrote:
...Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

This. Right now, there's still not enough support for them to be considered a good trade of time and resources.

As others have stated in this thread and many, many others, I'd drop everything I was working on hobby-wise if GeeDubs suddenly announced a new codex with a brand-new line of shiny plastic. Until then, I'm more than happy starting up a Death Guard army.

 Dr. Temujin wrote:
I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a GW store. He said Sisters of Battle are not happening anytime soon. I quote:

"Yeah, i dont see them being worked on until after everything has a Codex"

The reasons for this are a, once again, "financial risk" atm, because there's not enough guarantee that enough people would actually buy plastic Sisters, despite all the wishlisting, hard-core players, and newer players waiting to buy some.

 Luciferian wrote:
...Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

This. Right now, there's still not enough support for them to be considered a good trade of time and resources.

As others have stated in this thread and many, many others, I'd drop everything I was working on hobby-wise if GeeDubs suddenly announced a new codex with a brand-new line of shiny plastic. Until then, I'm more than happy starting up a Death Guard army.

A. OF COURSE POPULARITY OF SISTERS IS DOWN, THEY HAVE THE OLDEST LINE THAT'S STILL METAL. Polls involving current players of 40k are going to put Sisters dead last because of the cost of getting into the army and the age of the models. Update those models and they'll shoot up the list immediately.

B. Dark Eldar were a 'financial risk' as well, but ended up being a MASSIVE success. Also, Primaris and Death Guard, their two poster children, have just been released, which means GW is floating on a huge boat of cash. Now would be the time to take a financial risk because they've got the Primaris/Death Guard cushion to catch them if it fails. Waiting until all of the other Codexes have been released is the WORST time to take a risk because other factions that aren't as popular would have been updated and wouldn't have earned them as much money, meaning there's no 'cash boat' to float on any more.

People talkin' about business like they know how it works, smh.

 Melissia wrote:
Meh. The argument of "I'm not being political, everyone else is!" is one of the 9999 pet peeves of mine. Regardless, you have a point in that this IS getting off topic, so I'm bowing out.

That's a lot of pet peeves. /respect


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What if new sisters came out in plastic and they were more expensive than the old metals.... Would they still be as popular? Given that this is a very real possibility here.

 Torga_DW wrote:



What if new sisters came out in plastic and they were more expensive than the old metals.... Would they still be as popular? Given that this is a very real possibility here.

If they were more than $80 for a squad of battle sisters I don't think GW could safely sleep with both eyes closed