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 Valander wrote:

 Polonius wrote:


Money isn't the only resource. Time, and even energy, are factors as well.

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Sometimes, being cheap is self defeating, but sometimes thrift is about the journey, not the destination.

This is very true. I don't like to "waste" money either, of course, but I do thoughtfully consider what the cost is, in money, time, etc., when buying something. Which is why I've stopped buying used models in general. Why? Because I've found the time and effort required to strip the paint, fix any horrible assembly issues, get reassembled, etc. is more hassle than the savings of a couple of bucks is worth. So I generally only buy NIB or at the very least unassembled, unpainted stuff. Since I get probably more enjoyment out of the hobbying aspect than the game playing (due to time issues and getting together with other people), I don't want to eat that hobby time up with cursing someone else's bad assembly/paint jobs before I can start doing the stuff I enjoy.

I have also gone this route.

actually managed to finish an army instead of restripping everything 20times because it wasnt perfect

evancich wrote:

 chromedog wrote:
I don't know about other gamers, but for me there's no "appearance" of being cheap.

I am cheap, and I wave that banner proudly. So in-your-face pay-to-win gamers. I don't CARE what you think.

I would rather hunt down OOP metal figures for a fraction of the price of the newer overdone plastics from GW. Newer doesn't automagically mean better. Mostly because none of the new stuff fits style wise with the rest of my collection and to use the new stuff means replacing 90% of what I have.

This is a pretty lame sentiment.

I've been with GW since 1986 and I still have my 80's and 90's stuff. Those were the best mini's available at the time. But over done plastic? Are you drunk? Plastic is way better to work with than metal (and especially metal mini's wit lead) and the sculpts are so much better than the 2 plane old metal stuff.

Take an old rogue trader terminator and place it against one of the new GW or FW ones?

I'm sorry you are cheap. It must really suck to go thru life worrying about money.

I'm with Chromedog. A few points in response.

- There are some great minis being done today. However there are alot of folks like me who generally prefer the less-skully models for the 90's. I won't deny that nostalgia plays a part too, but for whatever reason the 80's/90's aesthetic is prefered by many.
-As for metal (leaded or not), unless you're doing conversions (which is of course easier in plastic) metal is MUCH faster to use than plastic. Usually little or no assembly required. Quick file any lines glue to base and paint.
-As for "you are cheap " and "worrying about money" are you trying to sound like an entitled child, rich snob or both? Try having a little maturity and sensitivity here. For a good portion of the world money is something that is in short enough supply that one cannot simply buy everything they want. I am a long way from poor, but life and family aint cheap and if I bought all my things new, there's no way I'd be able to keep enjoying the mutliple hobbies that do.
-Lastly, as many have said, for many of us, the hunt for the bargain is part of the fun as is having a bigger collection that one could otherwise afford if buying new.

evancich wrote:


I'm sorry you are cheap. It must really suck to go thru life worrying about money.

Yes, it does in fact suck to go through life worrying about money. I guess not all of us can be independently wealthy.

However, it sucks much worse worrying about money for things that aren't for a hobby; you know stuff like healthcare, child care, food, shelter, etc.

So, I much rather worrying about money for my hobby than worrying about it for my basic needs. That just gets depressing!