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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle






Obviously I haven't been updating this one since rumors for 2.0 started to solidify, but rest assured that updates will arrive in Nurgle Armies III! It will probably be a solid month or so because we have two weeks before the releases and I'll need another couple weeks to chew through the various changes and see if we get/what is in any battletome FAQ. But suffice to say that as of now the change to command abilities is the biggest thing (even more than free summoning).

But FYI to powergamers; the Exalted GUO is a steal to summon at 30 contagion points.

And in regards to malign sorcery, take chronomantic gears and have a GUO/glottkin slow down time with them, because extra spell and re-roll saves for 60 pts. I mean it's auto take for anyone that can so much as ally in a wizard, but for Nurgle holy hell it's good.

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Kind of bummed that the pusgoyles aren't really seen. I liked the idea of flying blightkings. But I suppose they are too expensive.

My main hangup is I cannot generate a lot of contagion points. I'm lucky to get 25 or so in a game total, so summoning in an exalted GUO is out of my reach.

I use it mainly to get another tree in and maybe a flying unit of drones.

And now with these battle reports coming in over the weekend where most of the games are ending by turn 2 due to the increased casualty rate...
   
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle






You use Horticulous for his extra tree. Looking at things like such:

Round one = 3+1 from your zone, +d3 from tree. Average 6. Horty plants his tree and you deep strike in spume, nurglings, or just move to get a unit into their zone.

Round two = 3 from your zone, 3 from theirs, +2d3 from trees. Average 16.

Round three = repeat for 26.

Round four = repeat for an exalted GUO and some change. It's only two turns you get with him but it's also a 500 point model that is very capable of killing enemies or plopping on an objective and saying 'you can't move me in two turns.'

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Thats probably why. I don't use Horticulous, but I can see the benefit.
   
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Gets worse if you use the battalion that generates an extra contagion point each turn too (doesn't look like that was counted here). Gives you more contagion points for faster GUOs. I wasn't considering a Horticulus, but I am now.

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Horty and his battalion were obviously costed with 2.0 in mind. They were bad before but knowing what we do now it's apparent GW had that in mind. A question now is if they are too cheap, but I'm not thinking they are (more that the exalted GUO should be a 35 point summon).

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Hmmm now I’ve gotta find points in my list to take cogs or something similarly useful :S Any thoughts from anyone?

GUO
Slimux
Poxbringer
Festus
30 plaguebearers
30 plaguebearers
10 plaguebearers
6 drones

Comes to 1980 currently. I could swap the 10 plaguebearers for 5 chaos warriors and downgrade Festus to a sorcerer, but I’m not sure it’s worth it.

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Jumping into Maggotkin just now and not knowing what 2.0 will bring, what Artefacts and Spells does everyone like to run? For reference, here's my current army. I also plan to pick up a box or two of Blightkings.

Chaos Sorcerer Lord

Lord of Plagues

Gutrot Spume

20 x Chaos Warriors

15 x Chaos Knights

20 x Chaos Marauders

1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots

1 x Plagueclaw Catapult

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Going over battalions I'm still partial to the regeneration one, though 220 points is steep.
   
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auticus wrote:
Going over battalions I'm still partial to the regeneration one, though 220 points is steep.


I constantly go back and forth on this one. The regeneration is cool, and you get even more benefits for having a battalion now, but 220 points... ouch.
   
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Yeah the extra command point. I almost wonder if its worth it just to build 1950 and claim the bonus point that way.

I think the big one with that battalion is taking a lot of plague bearers to benefit from the most free points being recycled, but even then...
   
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I’ve run it a couple times in the past, and the regeneration just wasn’t worth it on its own. Getting the choice of first turn was nice, but not essential. The extra artefact was great because it allowed me to take the Witherstave and Endless Gift, but all in all I’m still not sure it’s worth such a hefty price.
   
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Tallyband is worth it now IF you meet the requirements for the extra contagion points. The reason is getting an extra one first turn gives you a 2/3 chance of getting at least 7 to drop a turn one tree.

But we still need to see if there are any point changes, or any changes from an FAQ.


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 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
Hmmm now I’ve gotta find points in my list to take cogs or something similarly useful :S Any thoughts from anyone?

GUO
Slimux
Poxbringer
Festus
30 plaguebearers
30 plaguebearers
10 plaguebearers
6 drones

Comes to 1980 currently. I could swap the 10 plaguebearers for 5 chaos warriors and downgrade Festus to a sorcerer, but I’m not sure it’s worth it.
It is.


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 jreilly89 wrote:
Jumping into Maggotkin just now and not knowing what 2.0 will bring, what Artefacts and Spells does everyone like to run? For reference, here's my current army. I also plan to pick up a box or two of Blightkings.

Chaos Sorcerer Lord

Lord of Plagues

Gutrot Spume

20 x Chaos Warriors

15 x Chaos Knights

20 x Chaos Marauders

1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots

1 x Plagueclaw Catapult
It's all up in the air right now, but you should find the descriptions for these units in the first post are still valid, unless we find their point costs have changed. You'll want the witherstave artifact and the chronomantic cogs endless spell.

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I use the Glotkin a lot, and I have found using the Carrion Dirge (12" bubble of -2 bravery) is really good in combination with his ability to dish out -1 to hit to any unit within 7" based on 2d6 roll against their bravery. Witherstave is similarly amazing.
   
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They really need to nerf witherstave.

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I think the reason it doesnt get a lot more play is because the endless gift on GUO is broken as well. And Demon armies RARELY get two artifacts because the warscroll batallions are so bad. I play plaguetouched mostly, so I have 2 items and almost always bring a poxbringer for favoured poxes.. (also broken haha) and just stick a witherstave on him. So even if he is standing still due to poxes, he cant have an impact on units nearby. 12" Is a HUGE area for a denial like that.
   
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Endless gift is also too good, yeah. The difference is endless gift is OP in a very specific circumstance (GUO) while Witherstave is OP just for showing up.

It's actually funny that you mention it because whenever I run a Nurgle list with a battalion there is Endless Gift on a GUO and Witherstave on a Poxbringer.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Endless gift is also too good, yeah. The difference is endless gift is OP in a very specific circumstance (GUO) while Witherstave is OP just for showing up.

It's actually funny that you mention it because whenever I run a Nurgle list with a battalion there is Endless Gift on a GUO and Witherstave on a Poxbringer.


Any mileage on the Witherstave on a DP? If I run a Tallyband, that’s usually what I’d do, especially to help protect the drones.
   
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I haven't put one on a DP myself but that would work. You do want it centrally located though, so if the DP is serving as a flank support it isn't ideal. But then witherstave is so good that a less than ideal use is still more than most artifacts.

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Faq has officially killed the plaguetouched warband. Boy was it fun while it lasted.
   
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What did they do to it? I must have missed it during the hour I spent going through all of them...

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They made it so that it counts against your ally points or something and its an archaon battalion.
   
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If you run a batallion that is different from your allegiance (ptwb is everchosen units are Nurgle) then that’s legal......but the points for the batallion and the units in it count against your allies cap... so it’s been stabbed through the heart with such force, it made morathi jealous.

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"A battalion can be a part of any allegiance which all of its models have on their warscrolls" overrides that, thankfully.

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I think from what I've read is that the points of the battalion exceed the matched point value for allies allowed.
   
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What that means is that if everything in the battalion is Nurgle, then the battalion itself is considered Nurgle.

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ALL maggotkin armies now gain the Tamurkhans allegiance and allegiance ability for free ALONG with all nurgle allegaince abilities. You MUST take the MEH command trait and MEH artifact if you want to Tamurkhans allegiance ability...(enemy army wide -1 run/charge debuff) but its there if you want.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/aos_warscrolls/warhammer-aos-tamurkhans-horde.pdf
   
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Looks cool. That command trait is crummy (which is fine, one should have to give up SOMETHING to get the extra benefit) though the artifact isn't bad at all. But it's no witherstave.

I forgot how insane a horde of plague toads is at 400 points. Reasonably good for Nurgle but to ally in that is cheese-grade. Because 12 plague toads will. Never. Move. We are talking 48 wounds with a 4+ ward, so the equivalent of a 96-wound unit for 400 points.

Also as you have expressed Sal, the Exalted GUO is now crappy for his cost. Hang a bell off his horn and call him a regular GUO.

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Keep in mind that the 4++ on the toads applies to mortal wounds only. Against normal attacks, they're stuck using their poor 5+, and have less going for them than plaguebearers.
   
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Ah, missed that change. Thanks for correcting me.

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