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Ben2 wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Sorry if this is too threadomantic, but according to this Warhammer World article, Warhammer Quest : Blackstone Fortress will be fully operational I mean released before the 24-25 of November !

https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/warhammer-40000-vigilus-weekender/

"There is also a seminar with the ’Eavy Metal team, who will be fielding questions and discussing how the miniatures for Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress were painted"

"You can even try out Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress!"

It likely means it goes up for preorder that weekend. People will be going mental for the new Chaos stuff in it.

Any Xenos in it or is it just imperium vs chaos?

Not enough infos yet.

We’ve no idea who the baddies might be, or the adventurers.

Could be Necrons, could be Eldar as baddies. Who built what hasn’t exactly remained stable over the years.

 Sabotage! wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Sorry if this is too threadomantic, but according to this Warhammer World article, Warhammer Quest : Blackstone Fortress will be fully operational I mean released before the 24-25 of November !

https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/warhammer-40000-vigilus-weekender/

"There is also a seminar with the ’Eavy Metal team, who will be fielding questions and discussing how the miniatures for Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress were painted"

"You can even try out Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress!"

Nice catch, I wonder if that means they will reveal it at Spiel this next weekend or what. I kind of have feeling we'll be seeing it, Delaque , and the next Blood Bowl team, and the next AoS army and the new Slaanesh stuff the following weekend at Blood and Glory.

That’s a hell of a lot, all to come before Christmas?
I’d say the Slaanesh stuff; codex and Battletome with any non daemon releases for them would come January.

Realms of Chaos. Blood Bowl. Delaque. Blackstone Fortress.
That could be all of November and a bit of December.
Then Christmas releases.
Though thinking on it, yeah I suppose it would all fit. Depends how many things are coming for Slaanesh..


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Though the previews there have to have substance so the more I think about it..
And it wouldn’t have to all be released this year if previewed.
Though I think it would be

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
We’ve no idea who the baddies might be, or the adventurers.

Could be Necrons, could be Eldar as baddies. Who built what hasn’t exactly remained stable over the years.

Pretty sure we know it's Chaos Marines, since it was mentioned that Blackstone Fortress has "some of the most gorgeous Chaos Marine kits ever" and it was implied that like Silver Tower, they'll see a multipart release later on.

Hopefully we'll see each hero on their own sprue like Silver Tower, not shove everyone into 1 tiny sprue like Rogue Trader, leading to some models suffering from flat, 2d poses

Chaos are the opposition, getting their bigmarines.

Abaddon is on his way to a new plastic model too.

Source for that?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Source for that?

The Nova Q&A, if I remember correctly.

Managed to miss that entirely.

Anyone got a link?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Managed to miss that entirely.

Anyone got a link?

It wasn’t posted anywhere, just reports from people who were there.

Yes, I had also read that Chaos was in the box, I seem to recall three Chaos marines being in the box. This was from a reasonably solid source. I have seen Abaddon mentioned only by Kirioth, but he seems to be on track with rumors lately.

whaaaat? No shaky or blurry photos? I am disapoint.

Well now that we know that leaks will delay Codex:Squats by a year, I assume leaking will stop.

Danny76 wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Sorry if this is too threadomantic, but according to this Warhammer World article, Warhammer Quest : Blackstone Fortress will be fully operational I mean released before the 24-25 of November !

https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/warhammer-40000-vigilus-weekender/

"There is also a seminar with the ’Eavy Metal team, who will be fielding questions and discussing how the miniatures for Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress were painted"

"You can even try out Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress!"

Nice catch, I wonder if that means they will reveal it at Spiel this next weekend or what. I kind of have feeling we'll be seeing it, Delaque , and the next Blood Bowl team, and the next AoS army and the new Slaanesh stuff the following weekend at Blood and Glory.

That’s a hell of a lot, all to come before Christmas?
I’d say the Slaanesh stuff; codex and Battletome with any non daemon releases for them would come January.

Realms of Chaos. Blood Bowl. Delaque. Blackstone Fortress.
That could be all of November and a bit of December.
Then Christmas releases.
Though thinking on it, yeah I suppose it would all fit. Depends how many things are coming for Slaanesh..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Though the previews there have to have substance so the more I think about it..
And it wouldn’t have to all be released this year if previewed.
Though I think it would be

I personally don't think we'll see it all this year.

My gut inclination (I have nothing really backing most of this up) is:
We'll get Blood Bowl and Necromunda in November (this is pretty much a given considering the BB team confirmed a 4th team this year and the Necro team said all gangs would be out by the end of the year).
We'll get Realm of Chaos mid November with nothing released alongside it.
Blackstone will be out the first weekend in December with preorders the weekend of the weekender.
January we will get the next AoS army (I'm pretty certain it will be Moonclan, as apparently they had their release slot swapped with BoC and they just had their Shadespire band come out)
Feb/March: We'll get the Slaanesh/Khorne plastics from Realm of Chaos repacked alongside a new Keeper of Secrets. With a Slaanesh book and mortals for both game systems in the next month or two - though maybe Darkoath for AoS first.

Yeah I could see that being about right.



I’m guessing further up people are answering two different questions.
The Nova Q&A had marines mentioned,
But not Abaddon or larger chaos marines. Correct?

Yeah. I think the assumption is bigger chaos marines because primaris. But Abaddon is nothing but wishlist material at this point, afaik.

But the Death Guard Marines were not bigger? Other than the expected bloat of Nurgle anyway- they were shorter than Primaris Marines.

Newer Marines have had something of a stealth scale increase. While they are not as big as Primaris, both the Deathwatch and 1K sons are taller then there predecessors.

Nurgle marines in the starter were almost the same size.

Heights in the pic
Primaris 38m, bell dude 37.5, armless dude 36.5

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Newer Marines have had something of a stealth scale increase. While they are not as big as Primaris, both the Deathwatch and 1K sons are taller then there predecessors.

I thought that was largely due to changes in posture- the older Marine models stand with their legs further apart?

If anyone doesn't think the new CSM are going to be Primaris sized, then I've got some bridges to sell you...

New Abaddon/undivided CSMs is all but confirmed at this point, rumors have had them being shown after the orks releases since like June and earlier this year someone asked about Abaddon at a panel and the answer was pretty much "you'll know more towards the end of the year".


I'm ok with Primaris sized CSMs as long as the sculpts and poses aren't Khorne Berserkers or flying baby carriage tier of garbage.

I'd personally be upset if new Chaos Marines weren't Primaris size. Having Cadians out-bulk the current models makes them pretty unimposing.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I'd personally be upset if new Chaos Marines weren't Primaris size. Having Cadians out-bulk the current models makes them pretty unimposing.

That's as much a reason for smaller Cadians as it is for larger Chaos Marines... Or moreso, depending on your point of view regarding model scale, really.

Oh and I agree they should and probably will be.

I just wanted to clarify what was rumoured and what people are just saying.

 insaniak wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I'd personally be upset if new Chaos Marines weren't Primaris size. Having Cadians out-bulk the current models makes them pretty unimposing.

That's as much a reason for smaller Cadians as it is for larger Chaos Marines... Or moreso, depending on your point of view regarding model scale, really.

It might have been, twelve years ago. Now that we've had Chaos Cultists, Skitarii, GSC, N17 gangs etc the reality is that even Cadians are undersized(and with worse proportions) - the "Marines have to get bigger" side of the argument is pretty unarguably right at this point.

I just hope if they do make them bigger, they go all the way and actually make them Primaris size, rather than the not-quite-Primaris size of the new Death Guard. I know they want to maintain the fiction that Primaris are their own separate thing rather than a replacement, but it's annoying having to figure out how to modify new-style monopose plastics without having to resculpt tons of detail for the sake of small changes in height and proportion.

Well, I'm one of the people who enjoyed both silver tower and hammerhal, so this is looking interesting at least.

Though honestly one of the things i liked about silver tower is the odd mix of heroes you could have, something that just doesn't work as well with the 40k setting.

Dang that's coming out fast.

I have a strange feeling that Slaanesh will be pushed into January actually. They teased the Fiend because there was a big leak. The same thing happened with Rogue Trader and that didn't come out for months after the initial leak.

 zend wrote:
New Abaddon/undivided CSMs is all but confirmed at this point, rumors have had them being shown after the orks releases since like June and earlier this year someone asked about Abaddon at a panel and the answer was pretty much "you'll know more towards the end of the year".


I'm ok with Primaris sized CSMs as long as the sculpts and poses aren't Khorne Berserkers or flying baby carriage tier of garbage.

Wonder what's the explanation for in-universe size increase then