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Has that jervis johnson and andy chambers battle report shown up in a white dwarf yet?

dsraider1 wrote:
How effective do you guys think dropping a group of plasma inceptors off to the side of the enemy warlord, overcharging them, and using Slay The Tyrant would be?

Would it be worth keeping a squad of 3 around for?

It will probably never happen. The Warlord is almost definitely going to be surrounded. Slay the Tyrant is going to require you to be right in his face.

You can shoot things like Pask, Commander tanks and flyrants though.

Spoletta wrote:
You can shoot things like Pask, Commander tanks and flyrants though.

Yes, you definitely can. And if I am facing down an army with a 10+ wound character, I am definitely popping Slay the Tyrant with my heavy hitter units and blowing it away. The problem is, there really aren't that many 10+ wound characters.

I received my subscriber copy of White Dwarf this morning.

For those who like the idea of collecting and displaying GW art, the sub covers could come in handy. The water marked White Dwarf logo is, purely my opinion, very well done. If the cover is removed with care and placed in a frame it could display very well on a bulkhead.

Something about AoS skirmish?

Have the rules changed?

When's it going to be in-store? January 4th?

I just got my WD too and was excited and hopeful to see what it would have on the Gloomspite Gitz and get a look at the prices etc. But to my surprise there isn’t a single thing on them, at all, not a painting article, batt rep, or any mention of them. Also aside from a two page spread advertising their AoS Start Collecting box sets to tie in with Skirmish.. there isn’t a single page it seems on any Jan launches and Prices. Oo

Wow
Unbelieble!

That's really a change.

Could you tell us how is AoS skirmish?

Thanks!!

I'd like to hear more about AoS skirmish too.

Anyone seen wd in stores yet??

Not for sale until Saturday.

Well to give a brief run down on Skirmish, it's basically rules for playing AoS in the 250-500 points/Reknown or so mark, you can go for more or less but that's about the range they recommend. It uses same rules as AoS just there are some adjustments for Warscrolls and points cost or what they call Reknown. To find a unit's Reknown you basically work out the cost of what 1 model would be, so min unit size cost divided by min unit size. There is a restriction that each Warscroll can only be included once in a Warband, but you are free to ignore Min unit sizes, and also you can mix and match any wargear and upgrade options that Warscroll has, though still sticking to any "every 1 in 5" etc rules. Also each model in Skirmish is it's own individual unit, and does not have to maintain coherency with it's warscroll etc,

You must have at least 1 Hero unit and pick one of your Hero units to be your general, but you ignore battletome Command Trait and Artifact tables. Instead everyone must use these new Skirmish Command Trait tables and artifacts for Skirmish games and you ignore any Allegiance abilities too, there is generic one for each Grand Alliance you choose. CP and Command Abilities function as normal.

Comes with 7 missions for you to play around with, but that is the basic run down, skipping out on a lot of other details but that should be enough to give a general idea how it'll play out? They said next issue will have rules for playing AoS: Skirmish Campaigns too.

 BrookM wrote:
Not for sale until Saturday.

Thanks I might subscribe to get it earlier lol

What's the poster? Is it crimson fists??

GenRifDrake wrote:
I just got my WD too and was excited and hopeful to see what it would have on the Gloomspite Gitz and get a look at the prices etc. But to my surprise there isn’t a single thing on them, at all, not a painting article, batt rep, or any mention of them. Also aside from a two page spread advertising their AoS Start Collecting box sets to tie in with Skirmish.. there isn’t a single page it seems on any Jan launches and Prices. Oo

No surprises at all.

Gw told us what was in the dwarf and traditionally the releases are in WD the month after they release.

Reference orktober for example.

My only surprise is that you're surprised...

rtb02 wrote:

GenRifDrake wrote:
I just got my WD too and was excited and hopeful to see what it would have on the Gloomspite Gitz and get a look at the prices etc. But to my surprise there isn’t a single thing on them, at all, not a painting article, batt rep, or any mention of them. Also aside from a two page spread advertising their AoS Start Collecting box sets to tie in with Skirmish.. there isn’t a single page it seems on any Jan launches and Prices. Oo

No surprises at all.

Gw told us what was in the dwarf and traditionally the releases are in WD the month after they release.

Reference orktober for example.

My only surprise is that you're surprised...

Why you gotta round off a nice, informative update to someone whose ignorant with a snide remark? That's just rude. :/

Rogerio134134 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Not for sale until Saturday.

Thanks I might subscribe to get it earlier lol

What's the poster? Is it crimson fists??

The poster is basically the front cover of the Vigilus Defiant book, with a map and campaign layout on the otherside of Vigilus.

GW has shifted almost all of their release info and pre release info into their websites rather than into the White Dwarf. This has several bonuses:

1) It keeps both platforms viable without competing with each other. This means each is valued for their own thing.

2) The internet communication platforms are far more readily adaptable to a changing situation. Such as a leak releasing early preview photos GW can push them out online themselves and tackle it without affecting a product that people are paying for and which can't be changed.

3) IT cuts down on repetition which increases the value, esp of White Dwarf. Last thing GW wants it to have a large segment of WD customers who are buying it just for previews to then feel cheated when the internet previews things faster/for free.

 BrookM wrote:
Not for sale until Saturday.

Here in the US, they put them out on Fridays.

Someone posted pics of the WD with Kroot KT over on Facebook.
*Deleted link to FB post. Said post has since been removed by Facebook forum mods.



Got the others.

GenRifDrake wrote:
I just got my WD too and was excited and hopeful to see what it would have on the Gloomspite Gitz and get a look at the prices etc. But to my surprise there isn’t a single thing on them, at all, not a painting article, batt rep, or any mention of them. Also aside from a two page spread advertising their AoS Start Collecting box sets to tie in with Skirmish.. there isn’t a single page it seems on any Jan launches and Prices. Oo

Either you don’t normally buy White Dwarf, or you’re pulling an ‘Orktober whaat?’ on us.

Just in case it’s the former;
The content of this WD was known before the Gitz announcements. So not surprising.
And as always WD covers things released early in the cycle (admittedly things from the 12th on sale could have gone either way. But I’m guessing using all that over to make one huge Grot issue next month is a better choice).


On the issue;
I like it. Looks good. Articles are nice.
But I just cancelled my sub in October to save money (this being my last issue owed).
May grab the odd one depending on rules or articles..

The whole latest news section has been binned and there is no information about any new releases at all. Very disappointed.

That thing if getting +1 to hit for crimson fists is great news, except for the 10-man veteran intercessor squads I was thinking of making!

It’s very good for bolter still though, especially for aggressors, and it’s also very handy for plasma on hellblasters and inceptors. Come to think of it, it’s not bad for a redemptor dress either.

Thematically I like it. Crimson fists are now the anti-horde chapter, which they ought to be. And being good against hordes is useful in 40k right now.

Mandragola wrote:
That thing if getting +1 to hit for crimson fists is great news, except for the 10-man veteran intercessor squads I was thinking of making!

It’s very good for bolter still though, especially for aggressors, and it’s also very handy for plasma on hellblasters and inceptors. Come to think of it, it’s not bad for a redemptor dress either.

Thematically I like it. Crimson fists are now the anti-horde chapter, which they ought to be. And being good against hordes is useful in 40k right now.

Yeah, it makes me want to split my 10-man Hellblaster Squad back up instead of keeping them together for Heroes of Rynn's World. But, dropping Heroes of Rynn's World alongside Slay the Tyrant could be a fun way to blast your opponent to smitherines.

One thing that you should keep in mind is that you can always throw the Tactical Flexibility Stratagem after you do whatever it was that you wanted to do with the 10-man squad. After that, they are 5-man units that are rocking that +1 to hit. Not the most powerful ability, but it is something you can keep in your back pocket if you need it. Aggressors and Inceptors are going to be a little crazy with this. Especially if you drop Bolter Drill on them. Too bad Aggressors don't function with either of the Specialist Detachments we can use. That would be insane.

OK so I have a weird question here. Is there anything stopping you from running one detachment as Codex Crimson Fists and another as White Dwarf Crimson Fists?

Would you still need to paint them slightly differently for your opponent's sake? They're both 'Crimson Fists' after all.

IanVanCheese wrote:
OK so I have a weird question here. Is there anything stopping you from running one detachment as Codex Crimson Fists and another as White Dwarf Crimson Fists?

Would you still need to paint them slightly differently for your opponent's sake? They're both 'Crimson Fists' after all.

The article explicitly forbids it, so no, you cannot.

Yeah, it specifically says that all your Crimson Fists detachments must use the same rules; either WD Crimson Fists, or Chapter Tactics: Imperial Fists, not a combination.


Edit: on the topic of the content of the magazine, I’m seeing actual new fiction in there now, and a much reduced advertising load. This is all to the good for me. The Community site and store can manage the previews and prices just fine on their own.

animal310 wrote:
The whole latest news section has been binned and there is no information about any new releases at all. Very disappointed.

I’m actually glad, and hope it’s gone for good, on reflection. By the time I got my copy of the magazine I’d already seen that section plastered everywhere online, meaning a fair chunk of the magazine I’d already read. Now at least everything is readable/useful.

Seemingly I can't figure out the quotation thing on here...

The alleged "informative" post I criticised wasn't informative in the slightest and for anyone paying any vague attention to the January WD contents knew what was in it.

Ergo it wasn't informative.

That one new warlord trait the fists get, that gives anything within so many inches objective secured is pretty nice. Pop a unit of basic terminators and a terminator captain with that WT on a vital objective and they can probably do a pretty good job holding it.

Or drop pod two minimum-sized tactical squads with a combi-plasma and plasma cannon in each squad, drop a captain with the trait on them, and it counts as twenty models for the purposes of objective secured, all while not being able to Get Hot! against 10-model units.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Mandragola wrote:
That thing if getting +1 to hit for crimson fists is great news, except for the 10-man veteran intercessor squads I was thinking of making!

It’s very good for bolter still though, especially for aggressors, and it’s also very handy for plasma on hellblasters and inceptors. Come to think of it, it’s not bad for a redemptor dress either.

Thematically I like it. Crimson fists are now the anti-horde chapter, which they ought to be. And being good against hordes is useful in 40k right now.

Yeah, it makes me want to split my 10-man Hellblaster Squad back up instead of keeping them together for Heroes of Rynn's World. But, dropping Heroes of Rynn's World alongside Slay the Tyrant could be a fun way to blast your opponent to smitherines.

One thing that you should keep in mind is that you can always throw the Tactical Flexibility Stratagem after you do whatever it was that you wanted to do with the 10-man squad. After that, they are 5-man units that are rocking that +1 to hit. Not the most powerful ability, but it is something you can keep in your back pocket if you need it. Aggressors and Inceptors are going to be a little crazy with this. Especially if you drop Bolter Drill on them. Too bad Aggressors don't function with either of the Specialist Detachments we can use. That would be insane.

It might not be all that bad. 10-man squads are kind of rare anyway. You tend to find MSU units and hordes, so things would be ok in either case.

I need to draw up a whole new list. CA, Vigilus and now this have changed the capabilities of my guys a lot.