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 Kanluwen wrote:
Really, really frustrating that they were so dismissive of AdMech during Warhammer Fest while there was a reveal/discussion on a model that literally goes up for preorder on Saturday.

The worst thing for me was that sure, there was nothing Admech left to reveal, fair enough, I don't expect rules previews at events like this, so no discussion on it because it was so imminently close to release. Yet somehow not as imminent as a whole lot of stuff that people have been waiting a pretty short amount of time for that's all of a sudden up for pre-order. They're really picking and choosing what to delay and what not to delay and we seem to be at the bottom of the pecking order. Feels like the Admech codex has been delayed several times by now so that other releases can be more complete. We've already had a codex supplement come out before the actual supplement and even had a second supplement announced before even the release date of the codex!

Just release the damn book! Hell, we haven't even had any rules previews for the marshall yet, not even an inkling of what role it plays or what it can do and yet we're supposed to believe the codex is so close to release there's nothing more to talk about? No codex rules, no canticles revamp? Nothing? I mean we're not exactly as downtrodden as craftworlds or GSC or Tau, but they've had nothing at all so they expect nothing, rather than dangling a whole load of stuff in front of them and constantly keeping it out of reach.

We've over a years worth of models not even in our current codex, something like 10 datasheets lol

So what if "everything was already revealed"? We had three shows that covered Vampire stuff. We know more about Kragnos than we do the Skitarii Marshal.

It's extremely vexing. They could have taken a few damn minutes and just flashed his stats up on the screen on one of the two 40k days. Or instead of talking about the "Roadshows" coming back.

PS:
I genuinely don't believe that we've seen everything. "No model, no rules" also supposedly applies to "No art". Whatever the hell is on the cover of the book has been prominent and it is not a standard Techpriest.

I mean, what if it's just as simple as some of the AdMech books or some special yet unseen AdMech model were held up on a container somewhere and still isn't ready for simultaneous global release, while the Vamp stuff just happens to be ready?

I'm of the opinion that occam's razor applies to most of this stuff. Global shipping has been fubar.

The no art that isn’t models isn’t anywhere near as strict as it was these days. And if that thing on the cover was coming as a model, they’d have shown it by now. They don’t really do surprise model drops anymore.

Doesn't fly, they've been holding things back regionally for the past year. They did it as recently as the Lumineth release, with everywhere but North America getting the Shrine Luminor at launch and NA getting it weeks later.
The unseen model would at least have been showcased, since it would be produced in-house unless it was terrain.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
The no art that isn’t models isn’t anywhere near as strict as it was these days. And if that thing on the cover was coming as a model, they’d have shown it by now. They don’t really do surprise model drops anymore.

The dragon-vamp literally got shown a week ago and is up for preorder on Saturday. It's not common, but it is not unheard of.

I'm still waiting on those floating tech-priests from the 8th edition artwork though


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Also, Cawl needs to stop restoring other people's relics and start pushing our codex out. Literally only just seen the teaser of that new Sisters high lord and we have a full datasheet and rules breakdown the first working day after.

Not bitter at all lol. It's a nice model but come on, that codex isn't coming out before ours and we still have no idea what the marshall does.

Pre-order next week.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/16/sunday-preview-soulblight-space-marines-and-the-scions-of-mars/

I'm a little surprised at the non-AdMech stuff being released at the same time, though I'm glad for DE players that Lelith won't be stuck as only available in Piety & Pain for all that long - I assume the Palantine will get her release alongside the rest of the SoB stuff when that 'dex drops.

It's about damn time.

"Available as a 120-page hardback or thrice-blessed collector’s edition, the codex includes all the lore, bestiaries, new and improved rules (more on this in the coming days), and datasheets for the Adeptus Mechanicus, as well as a stunning miniatures showcase and more besides."

I would have bragged more about the stunning miniature showcase if there was more than one new model being released myself.

Still, it's about time.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little surprised at the non-AdMech stuff being released at the same time

I'm taking it as a sign they've got the warehouse issues sorted out and can actually ship stuff now.

 Olthannon wrote:
"Available as a 120-page hardback or thrice-blessed collector’s edition, the codex includes all the lore, bestiaries, new and improved rules (more on this in the coming days), and datasheets for the Adeptus Mechanicus, as well as a stunning miniatures showcase and more besides."

I would have bragged more about the stunning miniature showcase if there was more than one new model being released myself.

Still, it's about time.

They always talk about the <insert glowing praise here> "miniature showcase", even if the book is just revised.

The Skitarii Marshal is an important release. I'll allow it...especially if they have alternate parts.

 Olthannon wrote:
"Available as a 120-page hardback or thrice-blessed collector’s edition, the codex includes all the lore, bestiaries, new and improved rules (more on this in the coming days), and datasheets for the Adeptus Mechanicus, as well as a stunning miniatures showcase and more besides."

I would have bragged more about the stunning miniature showcase if there was more than one new model being released myself.

Still, it's about time.

So all other codexes have only new models shown? Not old?

That text is standard copy&paste...weird thing to focus on

Looks like GW solved whatever gak needed solving, that's one hefty preorder week.

That patrol box currently would be 18PL. If it now is 20 PL, we could be looking at some increases in cost.

WHAT THE feth

So, AoS is getting new, nice, great value Start Collecting box, when 40K players get gigantic frak you middle finger in Vanguard SC being killed in favour of yet another garbage CP box. With a transport thrown in, even though it has negative synergy with all other units in it, instead of something like the Vanguard walker. Oh, and someone should tell WC team '10 Infiltrators or Incursors' claim is utter nonsense, because these models can be ONLY built as Infiltrators!

Spoletta wrote:
That patrol box currently would be 18PL. If it now is 20 PL, we could be looking at some increases in cost.

I think the only thing we have not seen Power costs for is the Enginseer, so that's likely to be the culprit.

When do the juicy leaks begin? I think I ask this every time, but my brain is barely capable of cognitive function so I forget. Generally around the weekend of the pre-order we get reviews though at the latest.

How much is usually the cost for one of those patrol boxes? Because the marine one while badly assembled seems to contain around 200 euros of stuff.

Spoletta wrote:
How much is usually the cost for one of those patrol boxes? Because the marine one while badly assembled seems to contain around 200 euros of stuff.

Thus far, all of them have been 110 Euros.

 Irbis wrote:
WHAT THE feth

So, AoS is getting new, nice, great value Start Collecting box, when 40K players get gigantic frak you middle finger in Vanguard SC being killed in favour of yet another garbage CP box. With a transport thrown in, even though it has negative synergy with all other units in it, instead of something like the Vanguard walker. Oh, and someone should tell WC team '10 Infiltrators or Incursors' claim is utter nonsense, because these models can be ONLY built as Infiltrators!

AoS is notoriously cheaper to get into, with the Start Collecting sets being only the icing on the cake. That's really why I'm hoping for a rebalance of 3.0 as I got some Stormcast on the cheap.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
When do the juicy leaks begin? I think I ask this every time, but my brain is barely capable of cognitive function so I forget. Generally around the weekend of the pre-order we get reviews though at the latest.

The reviews would be Saturday, yes.

We've had some datasheets get shown off. They're on the AdMech subreddit, compiled, if you really need things.

Supposedly we get articles this week from Warhammer Community. We'll see if they are useful.

What do y'all think of the Necron box, btw?

- Overlord
- 10 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 3 Tomb Blades
- Flying Croissant of Death

Not sure about it as a starter, but it looks like it has promise to build onto Indomitus or the current starter sets.

It's a Combat Patrol, so I guess that works?

Is the Ad Mech Combat Patrol even a deal?

It's pretty much the original start collecting, swapping out the Magos for an enginseer, and adds destroyers/breachers. I think the OG set was $85, and then add $60 of destroyers=140ish. So...it's a start collecting, with an extra unit? Eh

SC Skitarii was always a good deal. Problem was that the Dominus was jammed in.

I welcome the new boxes with Enginseers instead of Dominus, now if they could just stop spamming Rangers...

Precentage wise the discount is exactly the same as the current SC! AdMech.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I welcome the new boxes with Enginseers instead of Dominus, now if they could just stop spamming Rangers...

Precentage wise the discount is exactly the same as the current SC! AdMech.

You will welcome it until its $110 euro/GBP/equivalent instead of that $85 discounted SC

 lord marcus wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I welcome the new boxes with Enginseers instead of Dominus, now if they could just stop spamming Rangers...

Precentage wise the discount is exactly the same as the current SC! AdMech.

You will welcome it until its $110 euro/GBP/equivalent instead of that $85 discounted SC

It hasn't been $85 for awhile now.

Current SC is 80€ for 120€ worth of stuff, Combat Patrol is 110€ for 166€ worth of stuff

(basically add the Kataphrons and swap the tank for a different tank that costs the same, contents go up by +46€, price goes up by +30€, discount goes from 40€ to 56€)

I mean, it's still inflated because nobody is actually paying 25€ for Enginseers I would assume, but since he's a smaller fraction of the box now the Character tax is actually a bit less, percentage wise.