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I love the new model.

 
   
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yukishiro1 wrote:
You can thrust with a two-handed weapon while holding a shield, you cannot swing with one, and she certainly can't use that halberd one-handed. That halberd is completely unusable.

Although you can say 40k isn't supposed to be realistic, it's unusual for them to model something so obviously impossible.



So thats where you draw the line?

We have had lobezno-claw wielding power armored dudes in dreadnought-type armor made to enter reactors with the flexibility and mobility of a granite chunk of rock for decades, and a miniature wielding a halberd with a shield when she's wearing a power armor that also allows the wearer to fire a fething multimelta or heavy bolter and survive the recoil without any kind of support is "obviously impossible"?

The levels of nitpicking so many people is reaching is entering the realm of hiperbolic comedy.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
GW is obviously going for a Swiss Guards vibe with these so a spear would not fit with the theme.

If only there was already a unit which was Swiss Guard in space.

If only...


You're just mad that this one looks aesthetically interesting and not like something you'd in a clogged toilet at one of those fancy restaurants where they put edible gold leaf in all the food.

"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

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Well, finally : celestians using close combat weapons. Been a while since their profiles being a clear emphasis on being better than battle sisters in close combat but still stuck with the same weapon options than battle sisters.

Not paying attention to the false outrage about "realistic use of halberds with shields".

What I'm noticing :

- gun inserted in the shield => they will still be able to shoot
- they use blessed weapons, not power weapons => will have a different profiles for maces
- they have a different helmet => yay I guess ?

Guess we will have more models like in the tryptic in the preview.


Am I happy to see them ? Dunno. I mean, apparently the old celestians will stay, but what will be their role if these "blessed celestians" can finally do better what they did before ? Maybe they'll follow the Drukhari way with Bloodbribes and Trueborns. Oh and they're clearly another fething Elite choice obviously...At that point, I'm wondering if sisters won't have a special detachment with 9+ elite choices unlocked. Oh well. Good thing I didn't build another unit of "normal celestians".

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 Galas wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
You can thrust with a two-handed weapon while holding a shield, you cannot swing with one, and she certainly can't use that halberd one-handed. That halberd is completely unusable.

Although you can say 40k isn't supposed to be realistic, it's unusual for them to model something so obviously impossible.



So thats where you draw the line?

We have had lobezno-claw wielding power armored dudes in dreadnought-type armor made to enter reactors with the flexibility and mobility of a granite chunk of rock for decades, and a miniature wielding a halberd with a shield when she's wearing a power armor that also allows the wearer to fire a fething multimelta or heavy bolter and survive the recoil without any kind of support is "obviously impossible"?

The levels of nitpicking so many people is reaching is entering the realm of hiperbolic comedy.


Not as bad as the levels of, “I like it, so if you don’t you’re an idiot”.
   
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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 Galas wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
You can thrust with a two-handed weapon while holding a shield, you cannot swing with one, and she certainly can't use that halberd one-handed. That halberd is completely unusable.

Although you can say 40k isn't supposed to be realistic, it's unusual for them to model something so obviously impossible.



So thats where you draw the line?

We have had lobezno-claw wielding power armored dudes in dreadnought-type armor made to enter reactors with the flexibility and mobility of a granite chunk of rock for decades, and a miniature wielding a halberd with a shield when she's wearing a power armor that also allows the wearer to fire a fething multimelta or heavy bolter and survive the recoil without any kind of support is "obviously impossible"?

The levels of nitpicking so many people is reaching is entering the realm of hiperbolic comedy.


Not as bad as the levels of, “I like it, so if you don’t you’re an idiot”.


Wow! You are right. Who made that comment? What a moron.

Oh wait, now pointing out how biased the criticism of many people is when is constructed around "new bad old good" is calling them idiots?

The limitations of pole arms come around normal humans using heavy two handed weapons to fight in close formations.

None of that applies in this case for two very obvious reasons:

-A Power Halberd could be heavier than a normal Halberd (And maybe is even ligther because scifi metals are harder and better yadayada) but even being double or triple the weight, it will be irrelevant because:
-The soldier wielding it is not a normal human but one that wears a power armour that allows it to fire a extremely heavy bolter on the move ignoring the giant recoil it has. A much heavier weapon, more unwieldly than a power halberd will ever be.



Spoiler:
Sarouan wrote:
Well, finally : celestians using close combat weapons. Been a while since their profiles being a clear emphasis on being better than battle sisters in close combat but still stuck with the same weapon options than battle sisters.

Not paying attention to the false outrage about "realistic use of halberds with shields".

What I'm noticing :

- gun inserted in the shield => they will still be able to shoot
- they use blessed weapons, not power weapons => will have a different profiles for maces
- they have a different helmet => yay I guess ?

Guess we will have more models like in the tryptic in the preview.


Am I happy to see them ? Dunno. I mean, apparently the old celestians will stay, but what will be their role if these "blessed celestians" can finally do better what they did before ? Maybe they'll follow the Drukhari way with Bloodbribes and Trueborns. Oh and they're clearly another fething Elite choice obviously...At that point, I'm wondering if sisters won't have a special detachment with 9+ elite choices unlocked. Oh well. Good thing I didn't build another unit of "normal celestians".



Normal celestians are very good with their reroll all hits near a Canoness now that being troop is not such a big upside over being any other role.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 Galas wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
You can thrust with a two-handed weapon while holding a shield, you cannot swing with one, and she certainly can't use that halberd one-handed. That halberd is completely unusable.

Although you can say 40k isn't supposed to be realistic, it's unusual for them to model something so obviously impossible.



So thats where you draw the line?

We have had lobezno-claw wielding power armored dudes in dreadnought-type armor made to enter reactors with the flexibility and mobility of a granite chunk of rock for decades, and a miniature wielding a halberd with a shield when she's wearing a power armor that also allows the wearer to fire a fething multimelta or heavy bolter and survive the recoil without any kind of support is "obviously impossible"?

The levels of nitpicking so many people is reaching is entering the realm of hiperbolic comedy.


Not as bad as the levels of, “I like it, so if you don’t you’re an idiot”.


Wow! You are right. Who made that comment? What a moron.

Oh wait, now pointing out how biased the criticism of many people is when is constructed around "new bad old good" is calling them idiots?

The limitations of pole arms come around normal humans using heavy two handed weapons to fight in close formations.

None of that applies in this case for two very obvious reasons:

-A Power Halberd could be heavier than a normal Halberd (And maybe is even ligther because scifi metals are harder and better yadayada) but even being double or triple the weight, it will be irrelevant because:
-The soldier wielding it is not a normal human but one that wears a power armour that allows it to fire a extremely heavy bolter on the move ignoring the giant recoil it has. A much heavier weapon, more unwieldly than a power halberd will ever be.



Spoiler:
Sarouan wrote:
Well, finally : celestians using close combat weapons. Been a while since their profiles being a clear emphasis on being better than battle sisters in close combat but still stuck with the same weapon options than battle sisters.

Not paying attention to the false outrage about "realistic use of halberds with shields".

What I'm noticing :

- gun inserted in the shield => they will still be able to shoot
- they use blessed weapons, not power weapons => will have a different profiles for maces
- they have a different helmet => yay I guess ?

Guess we will have more models like in the tryptic in the preview.


Am I happy to see them ? Dunno. I mean, apparently the old celestians will stay, but what will be their role if these "blessed celestians" can finally do better what they did before ? Maybe they'll follow the Drukhari way with Bloodbribes and Trueborns. Oh and they're clearly another fething Elite choice obviously...At that point, I'm wondering if sisters won't have a special detachment with 9+ elite choices unlocked. Oh well. Good thing I didn't build another unit of "normal celestians".



Normal celestians are very good with their reroll all hits near a Canoness now that being troop is not such a big upside over being any other role.


Sorry. I paraphrased. Calling an opinion you disagree with, hiperbolic (sic) nitpicking implies an attitude to other posters that you may not have intended.

Btw, the difficulties of using a halberd has nothing to do with weight. Medieval weapons are far lighter than most people assume. It’s far more to do with how hard it is to control something that long with just one hand.

Personally I have no opinions on the model other than it’s not something I wanted. I’m annoyed that a second wave Sisters release is being used to for the stuff they’ve previewed so far, rather than being used to update all the stuff that’s already in the army, but stuck with old resin and metal models.
   
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If you post here for any length of time you get used to getting personally attacked if you offer an opinion or observation that isn't as enthusiastic as deemed necessary by a certain sub-segment of the population.

One of the great ironies of Dakka is that it's the "positive" posters who tend more to personal attacks. You have to just learn to live with it, it's some kind of defense mechanism they just can't seem to help; I guess they feel like your negative opinion on something is some sort of personal attack on them because they identify so strongly with the hobby, or something.

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the squad is modeled, as the pose they showed is actually realistic in the sense that someone can hold a halberd that way one-handed - but it's the only real pose that's realistic. So I wonder whether they will all be holding them that way, or whether they'll try to actually have poses using the weapon too, not just resting it on the ground.
   
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 the_scotsman wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
GW is obviously going for a Swiss Guards vibe with these so a spear would not fit with the theme.

If only there was already a unit which was Swiss Guard in space.

If only...


You're just mad that this one looks aesthetically interesting and not like something you'd in a clogged toilet at one of those fancy restaurants where they put edible gold leaf in all the food.

But I like the look of the new model.

   
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Is there any chance that figures from Necromunda specifically Cawdor or Redemptionists will get rules so they can be used as frateris militia or zealots, or is GW taking a hard no on figures being used in more than one game system? If the heretics and the aliens can have cultists then why can’t the Imperium?
   
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Smaug wrote:
Is there any chance that figures from Necromunda specifically Cawdor or Redemptionists will get rules so they can be used as frateris militia or zealots, or is GW taking a hard no on figures being used in more than one game system? If the heretics and the aliens can have cultists then why can’t the Imperium?


Absolutely no chance.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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There's cross-over between AOS-based game systems, though almost all the non-AOS models you can use in AOS suck. There is also cross-over with Blackstone Fortress, and, just like in AOS, they almost all suck (aside from Daedalosus, who is in basically every list because he's so good).

It hasn't happened with Necromunda, but that doesn't mean it couldn't.

   
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Well, we could have Frateris Militia units in the new codex, but I think it would lead to other new miniatures than the Redemptionists. Still, not sure we'll see Frateris Militia as such this time.

And of course, it wouldn't stop people using the Necromunda boxes to play as some units from the new codex as well. Ministorum Priests is the obvious answer here.
   
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I'm way out of 40k (and a lot of gaming...) is the copyright 2019 Codex: Adepta Sororitas about to be replaced by a newer book?

(Not that I have the core rules or any chance of playing soon.)

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Seems very likely, though whether it's next month or September is anybody's guess.
   
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Probably, and most likely May or June based on when we started seeing Sisters previews beyond the Palatine.

Its mostly a question of Sisters->Orks or Orks->Sisters.
But both are looking like pretty chunky releases.

With tyranids trailing along in the rumor engine.

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Voss wrote:
Probably, and most likely May or June based on when we started seeing Sisters previews beyond the Palatine.

Its mostly a question of Sisters->Orks or Orks->Sisters.
But both are looking like pretty chunky releases.

With tyranids trailing along in the rumor engine.


WHat has been previewed for greenskins apart from the snaggas?

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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 Argive wrote:
Voss wrote:
Probably, and most likely May or June based on when we started seeing Sisters previews beyond the Palatine.

Its mostly a question of Sisters->Orks or Orks->Sisters.
But both are looking like pretty chunky releases.

With tyranids trailing along in the rumor engine.


WHat has been previewed for greenskins apart from the snaggas?

So far they've only directly previewed one Beastsnagga unit.
But also... there is the 'lieutenant' from that video from way back around the SM/Necron books, quite a few rumor engine pics, and the beast snaggas themselves look to be a fairly large release, as they've explicitly stated and compared them to speed freeks (which consists of bikers, nob bikers, and the five buggy variants). With hints of various other releases in their animated video, including two characters and maybe some other things.

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 bullyboy wrote:
The more I look at it, the more I hate the shield (but love the rest of the model). It's not just the colour, it's also the shape. What do they do, tip them over, fill with water and baptize their cherubs? It's like they're carrying mini bathtubs to war. Cleanliness is next to godliness, I guess.


More like coffins for me to bury them in.

   
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yukishiro1 wrote:
If you post here for any length of time you get used to getting personally attacked if you offer an opinion or observation that isn't as enthusiastic as deemed necessary by a certain sub-segment of the population.

One of the great ironies of Dakka is that it's the "positive" posters who tend more to personal attacks. You have to just learn to live with it, it's some kind of defense mechanism they just can't seem to help; I guess they feel like your negative opinion on something is some sort of personal attack on them because they identify so strongly with the hobby, or something.



This^^ so true.

The models are not as bad as the so called dogmata. I will not be buying them. The last SoB tank is also a fat miss for me.

My problem is with GW making all sorts of everything for every faction that is somehow new and improved, has not yet been made by third parties, and cannot be made easily or converted, not for the flavour of the faction consistent with what we should know about the declining empire suffering waves of encroaching evil, e.g. Sisters in shiny Walker suits with weird legs came from nowhere and are silly looking at best and contrary to this universal decline, imho, but most obviously to ride the wave of fanboy enthusiasm for IP protected spikes in sales.

So yeah, now blessed halberds are a thing. Umm, great if you are into that sort of thing. MeanWhile, basic troops for other factions rot. Maybe we don’t see new eldar aspects because hey, one of the most ancient of races in the universe will probably start producing new aspects with Crystal matrix nunchucks while old aspects are backgrounded perhaps because Crystal matrix nunchucks attack three times with plus three strength, or maybe because third parties already make most of the OG aspects better.

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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Personally I have no opinions on the model other than it’s not something I wanted. I’m annoyed that a second wave Sisters release is being used to for the stuff they’ve previewed so far, rather than being used to update all the stuff that’s already in the army, but stuck with old resin and metal models.
Whilst I generally agree with your sentiment, there's actually nothing in the Sisters line that isn't plastic. Nothing needs updating.

"But Crusa-"

... aren't Sisters. Neither are Priests. Neither are Deathcult Assassins.

Every HQ and special character? Plastic.
Troops? Plastic.
Elites? All plastic.
Fast attack? Plastic, plastic, plastic!
Heavy Support? All of them plastic.
They even have a terrain piece, in plastic.

The Sisters, as far as a plastic release goes, are a complete line with zero gaps.

GW also stated during the preview where the Nundam suits were shown off that this release is about adding new things to the Sisters army because up until now all they've done is redo the existing units (and make a couple of off-shoots like Mortifiers and Zephyrm). Now we get the Nundam suits, the Leman Rhino, the Palatine, Halberd Girls, and Lady Maceclub.

Do they do plastic Crusaders? Priests? Maybe, but we're just as likely to get plastic Ecclesiarchical stuff as they are to be shuffled off to Legends and forgotten about. I want them to get a proper release, but I just don't see it happening.


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Hmm, I know I will regret wading into this discussion. But my view is that a halbard has a long shaft. By that very fact, a halbard is designed to be wielded two handed. Its not so much whether the halbard is light or whether you have the strength to heft it in one hand. Using two hands on a polearm like a halbard increases the strength you can put behind a blow.

Now, if your hero is so strong he or she can swing a halbard with just one hand and put lots of force behind it. Then just go for an axe. Then you won't have this huge shaft getting in your way and your swings would be far more nimble.

Now, if they are using the halbard in both hands, and the shield is just attached to their forearm. The issue I have is that the shield itself is too huge. Even if I accept that the hero has the strength to swing around a halbard while having that huge shield strapped to his forearm. That huge shield would still get in the way. Imagine you are swing the halbard in a huge arc to behead someone. And you have this huge shield attached to your forearm. Its going to inhibit your complete swing.

If its a smaller shield, something like a buckler, then by all means, thats fine. But this shield isn't a buckler. Its a huge shield that screams the need to be held by one hand.

And actually, if the halbard was a spear, like how the spartans use. Then the shield can be so big and the shaft of the spear can be long. The key difference being that you use a spear for thrusting, and you can thrust fine with one hand. You can even throw a spear with one hand.

Now, maybe the hero can use the halbard as an axe with a super long shaft. So, this gives him a longer reach. So imagine the hero holding the end of the shaft, and swinging this long halbard like a super long axe. With enough strength of superhuman, its doable I suppose. It kinda looks wierd though. Again like I said, you might as well use a normal axe at that point. Much more nimble and flexible.

One of the best examples of this in 40k itself are lychguard. You either equip them with two handed war scythes, or you go shield and sword with them. You don't get to equip lychguard with war scythe and shield. And these are robots. So if you wanted them to swing a warscythe with one hand, they would totally do it. lol

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 Balance wrote:
I'm way out of 40k (and a lot of gaming...) is the copyright 2019 Codex: Adepta Sororitas about to be replaced by a newer book?

(Not that I have the core rules or any chance of playing soon.)


Officially not told. But we do know more models are coming and since first was shown in february and gw doens't generally show more than 3 months ahead complete models odds are models are coming on may(also palatine mention in warhammer community all but quaranteed SOME form of book release for sisters is immident...). Whether that's with codex or not is another thing as it could be part of Charadron supplement like ad mech got new models last year along psychic awakening. We also haven't heard of codex release for may and just know there's almost certainly SOME codex there...

However if you don't have codex already now would be very, very, VERY risky moment to buy it. It's just matter of weeks before we know one way or another.

If I had to bet money I would be betting for new codex in may.

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 Argive wrote:


WHat has been previewed for greenskins apart from the snaggas?


They had an HQ teased (not fully shown thus far?) as part of the July 2020 teaser for stuff (codexes?) originally scheduled for 2020.



   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Personally I have no opinions on the model other than it’s not something I wanted. I’m annoyed that a second wave Sisters release is being used to for the stuff they’ve previewed so far, rather than being used to update all the stuff that’s already in the army, but stuck with old resin and metal models.
Whilst I generally agree with your sentiment, there's actually nothing in the Sisters line that isn't plastic. Nothing needs updating.

"But Crusa-"

... aren't Sisters. Neither are Priests. Neither are Deathcult Assassins.

Every HQ and special character? Plastic.
Troops? Plastic.
Elites? All plastic.
Fast attack? Plastic, plastic, plastic!
Heavy Support? All of them plastic.


They even have a terrain piece, in plastic.

The Sisters, as far as a plastic release goes, are a complete line with zero gaps.

GW also stated during the preview where the Nundam suits were shown off that this release is about adding new things to the Sisters army because up until now all they've done is redo the existing units (and make a couple of off-shoots like Mortifiers and Zephyrm). Now we get the Nundam suits, the Leman Rhino, the Palatine, Halberd Girls, and Lady Maceclub.

Do they do plastic Crusaders? Priests? Maybe, but we're just as likely to get plastic Ecclesiarchical stuff as they are to be shuffled off to Legends and forgotten about. I want them to get a proper release, but I just don't see it happening.



Sorry, but I just don’t agree with your line of argument here. You’re essentially claiming that a big chunk of the units in this army are not actually part of this army because they’re not actually Sororitas. Never mind that arco flagellants aren’t Sisters and penitent engines aren’t sister, but they do have plastic kits. Let’s completely ignore that crusaders, death cult assassins and priests have always been part of this army.

You could argue that what I’m wanting is the old Witch Hunters army, not strictly sisters. Well yes. Yes it is, because to me that’s what the army is. Culling the army of anything that isn’t an actual Sister of Battle strips away a lot of the character. Luckily that isn’t what GW have done because penitent engines and arco flagellants! However they’ve left the main house unfinished but started working on an extension.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
... SOME form of book release for sisters is immident...). Whether that's with codex or not is another thing as it could be part of Charadron supplement like ad mech got new models last year along psychic awakening.


I had been thinking about this as well, but considering the leaked datasheets for the Triumph and the Exorcist, it seems unlikely to be just a supplement with the new models. Of course, this assumes the leaks are true and I have no clue if they are, but they seem legit. Codex seems much more likely than a War Zone book to me.
   
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I don't even mind Sisters getting new units before existing units which are still not updated to plastic kits.

My problem is that Sisters don't need a third Celestian unit; a sixth melee unit in the already crowded elite slot; and a second shield equipped bodyguard unit (of which these are the fourth!)

   
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They aren't exactly widely available, but GW has already released a plastic priest, death cult assassin, and crusader model, either through kill team or Blackstone fortress. Awkward to get, very. But GW has already done it.

It isn't codex witch hunters anymore- inquisitors are gone with a lot of their retinue. Ecclesiarchy is now support rather than mainline. It's now codex sororitas. Same as how grey knights lost the inquisition elements when they went away from codex daemonhunters.

That said, a priest plus retinue kit would be a good cross kit for sisters and guard
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
They aren't exactly widely available, but GW has already released a plastic priest, death cult assassin, and crusader model, either through kill team or Blackstone fortress. Awkward to get, very. But GW has already done it.

It isn't codex witch hunters anymore- inquisitors are gone with a lot of their retinue. Ecclesiarchy is now support rather than mainline. It's now codex sororitas. Same as how grey knights lost the inquisition elements when they went away from codex daemonhunters.

That said, a priest plus retinue kit would be a good cross kit for sisters and guard


Which is precisely why I won’t be collecting a Grey Knight army. To me, a wannabe Inquisition player, it’s very sad to see my favourite faction dwindling away like this. Sure, there have been a couple of named Inquisitors in plastic, but to say, well they did a plastic death cult assassin in an OOP expansion once so there’s your plastic death cultists you wanted ...

... I’m lost for words.
   
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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Sorry, but I just don’t agree with your line of argument here. You’re essentially claiming that a big chunk of the units in this army are not actually part of this army because they’re not actually Sororitas. Never mind that arco flagellants aren’t Sisters and penitent engines aren’t sister, but they do have plastic kits. Let’s completely ignore that crusaders, death cult assassins and priests have always been part of this army.

You could argue that what I’m wanting is the old Witch Hunters army, not strictly sisters. Well yes. Yes it is, because to me that’s what the army is. Culling the army of anything that isn’t an actual Sister of Battle strips away a lot of the character. Luckily that isn’t what GW have done because penitent engines and arco flagellants! However they’ve left the main house unfinished but started working on an extension.
And, again, I don't disagree with your sentiment, but that's not what's happening with the Sisters.

It's a hard argument to make that GW shouldn't be adding to the Sisters when there's so much of their range that hasn't been updated. The truth is their entire range was updated, and this is really the first time they're adding a bunch of new things to the Sisters.

And yes, I am saying it is because certain things aren't specifically Sororitas. This is the Adepta Sororitas Codex, and not the Witch Hunter Codex, no matter how much you, me or anyone else may want a return to that duality. Right now that's just not on the cards. We're going to get a new Sisters book, and I fear that means jettisoning anything that isn't strictly a sister.

And before you say it, remember that the fluff is arbitrary. GW could turn around tomorrow and say that Achos and Penitent Engines have always been Sororitas units - Convent Serfs that did bad things turned into mindless killing machines, and so on.


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