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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still think the film is lousy and what they did to Taskmaster is akin to what X-Men Origins: Wolverine did to Deadpool, but I am happy that the deleted scene showing what happened when Ross caught Widow at the end of the film exists.

It still should have been in the film, but the sudden "She's giving herself up... two weeks later?" nonsense is alleviated.


I can;t stand Deadpool so very happy with X men Origins.

I know nothing about Taskmaster so was fine for me.

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It was as much an origin story for Taskmaster.

Rather like Trevor, Trevor Slattery, I suspect greater things lie in store

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That was also kind of the mess they were going for with Deadpool. I hadn't really considered the comparison as Taskmaster isn't my favorite character, but I can see it. This version is very blank slate and the comic version is definitely not so boiler plated.
   
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I’ve considered the BW Taskmaster a fair bit, as I absolutely agree they’re underused in the movie.

But. When we talk post-credit scenes not just in BW, but also FalconSolider?

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I don't think Taskmaster was done dirty in Black Widow. I think Taskmaster was set up to become Task Master going forward. The fact that she didn't die means there is more for her to do.


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Maybe the character gets redeemed in a future movie, like Deadpool in Deadpool, but in this movie Taskmaster is bad.

 
   
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Taskmaster was there to let them have their cake and eat it to. To give Natasha a backstory of regret and horrific sacrifice (killing Drakov's daughter in order to ensure Drakov's death) but then give her absolution ("It's ok! She lived. So did everyone else who wasn't a bad guy! You saved everyone! Only the bad guys died and all your past sins were wiped away! Yay! Total victory and no more guilt!"). It was asinine.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I can;t stand Deadpool so very happy with X men Origins.
Kinda missing the point there, that being that Deadpool in Origins was not Deadpool in the same way that Taskmaster in this movie was not Taskmaster.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I can;t stand Deadpool so very happy with X men Origins.
Kinda missing the point there, that being that Deadpool in Origins was not Deadpool in the same way that Taskmaster in this movie was not Taskmaster.



He was an arrogant, mouthy guy - seemed exactly like Deadpool to me - just so much less annoying once he was not able to speak.

Its the MCU so thngs are different - MCU Iron Man is not Iron Man in the comics who apparently does not kill etc etc. It worked in the fllm for me, it obviously didn't for you.


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Men vs. Women:
These kinds of fights are always detrimental to the male. If he wins, he is a women beater. Should he lose, he will be the laughingstock for everybody. So it's a lose-lose situation for the man.

Personal experience:
Back in school in the early 90s I used to play soccer and was the top scorer of my team. There was a girl in class which was also into sports and practiced athletics especially sprinting. So the girls in class challenged me to run against her in a 100m dash.

What happened? I won the race but it wasn't easy because she was really fast. What was the outcome? Did I get any praise? Nope, the girls hated me for a week or so for not letting her win.
   
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The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.



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 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.


I'm not sure super hero movies need to explain that super heroes/villains are stronger than normal humans.

Even when we know they're explicitly not (like Batman), they're constantly doing things that normal people can't do and should break suspension of disbelief if you don't just accept 'supers.'

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 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.


So no problem with all the times Natasha falls with bone-breaking force onto solid surfaces and walks away?

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 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


Kind of like this.




I think it's fair to say that the underside of cars in the MCU are the single most well protected things on Earth.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


I used to love this in 40k (am a few editions behind now so apologies its not still the case). Your guys wreck the vehicle, then the occupants jump out and butcher the people that blew up the transport.

I was never quite sure how that worked as an abstraction and couldn't picture what had happened, it hilariously broke the suspension of disbelief.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


He is trying to obtain specific items from the car hence not destroying it,.

Also its the star of the film in the car - if you are really expecting it and her to be destroyed....well I don't know what to tell you or what you have been watching since films began

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


He is trying to obtain specific items from the car hence not destroying it,.

Also its the star of the film in the car - if you are really expecting it and her to be destroyed....well I don't know what to tell you or what you have been watching since films began


Then why even bother trying to dodge attacks? She could just stroll thru any firefight and right up to shoot the enemy point blank. I mean she’s the star of the movie it’s not like they can stop her.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


He is trying to obtain specific items from the car hence not destroying it,.

Also its the star of the film in the car - if you are really expecting it and her to be destroyed....well I don't know what to tell you or what you have been watching since films began


Then why even bother trying to dodge attacks? She could just stroll thru any firefight and right up to shoot the enemy point blank. I mean she’s the star of the movie it’s not like they can stop her.

Because its a movie....

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 Vulcan wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.


So no problem with all the times Natasha falls with bone-breaking force onto solid surfaces and walks away?



But you can ignore physics if your purty enough and Ms J certainly is

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 Lance845 wrote:
Kind of like this.
Nope. Not even close.

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 Pacific wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The only real problem I had is that the movie seemed to want to have taskmaster be some sort of augmented human in scenes, like flinging people ten feet with one hand, but never explained the character as anything more than a human with special memory function.
Taskmaster is also equipped with high-explosive missiles that destroy vehicles but leave the occupants completely unharmed.


I used to love this in 40k (am a few editions behind now so apologies its not still the case). Your guys wreck the vehicle, then the occupants jump out and butcher the people that blew up the transport.

I was never quite sure how that worked as an abstraction and couldn't picture what had happened, it hilariously broke the suspension of disbelief.


Pretty easy to explain. In 2nd passengers were ALWAYS KILLED when a transport blew up. Gamers would say such things like rhinos are "death traps" and refuse to use them. Suits in Nottingham were scared shitless that nobody would buy transports anymore so they threatened the devs to rewrite the rules at gun point.
   
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And so, for many anti-vehicle weapons, the occupants had a chance of escaping un-injured.

Until Artillery got used on them. Arty penetrating hits had a big chance of "Vehicle kaboom. Passengers and crew so much salsa." results.

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