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RealAndTrue wrote:
 Blndmage wrote:
RealAndTrue wrote:
 Blndmage wrote:
RealAndTrue wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.


Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.


*Has cancer*
This thread isn't cancer, it's shedding light on the cancerous members of the community.


No, it's what I said the first time. This thread is cancer and exposes all the crazy Leftists we have already defeated and will continue to defeat. It's what we do.


You literally just proved my point.
You are cancerous.


I'm not the one who needs to use pronouns in my bio to prove what gender I am.


I'll make a donation to the local Pride society in your name to commemorate your faith in us.

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 Blndmage wrote:


This right here is why the 40k community is terrifying for LGBTQ2SIA+ folks.


Good odds that they're just a troll given they're a sockpuppet account.

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Hecaton wrote:
 Blndmage wrote:


This right here is why the 40k community is terrifying for LGBTQ2SIA+ folks.


Good odds that they're just a troll given they're a sockpuppey account.


It seriously doesn't matter if they are or not. We can't risk that they are.

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Hey guys! I just stole all his guns while he was posting. Now I'm giving them all boys names and making them get GAY MARRIED!!! Who wants to put pretty pink hats on all his guns while his Dear leader thirsts for his Daughter?

And yes, I have my giant gay steam roller, and it's coming for you.

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 Blndmage wrote:

It seriously doesn't matter if they are or not. We can't risk that they are.


Risk what exactly? Even odds the person behind it is a right-wing nutjob, just a troll looking for a rise out of people, *or* someone who thinks that there are two many right-wing nutjobs in the fanbase and it looking to "prove" it through using a sockpuppet account.
   
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Hecaton wrote:
Risk what exactly? Even odds the person behind it is a right-wing nutjob, just a troll looking for a rise out of people, *or* someone who thinks that there are two many right-wing nutjobs in the fanbase and it looking to "prove" it through using a sockpuppet account.


Doxing, harassment, etc. Trolls like this have an unfortunate habit of taking things offline if they find an opening.

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This guy is a troll, but is definitely harmless. It was obvious since his first few posts. And please don't use him as proof that the hobby is full of alt right idiots or nazis. People like trolling. The fact that anyone takes him seriously is odd, considering I see this attitude all the time in video games. Just trying to provoke people for a laugh. The best thing to do is ignore and report them.

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Ok, but don't down play the risk that we face.

I can't risk our local FLGSs because both are frequented by transphobes who have actively threatened me if I step into the stores, with the owners backing the transphobes after telling me they had my back.

I HAVE to worry. As do lots of LGBT+ folks.

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And let's not forget that "it's just a joke" is a well established tactic of the alt-right and 4chan Nazi types. Say something offensive, and then if anyone calls you on it it's "just a joke" and people are being too sensitive. It's a win/win for them, they get to downplay the extremism of their views and simultaneously present the normal people as unreasonable zealots. And it's also a well established tactic to get people starting down the rabbit hole by "jokes", then bringing them deeper into the movement once they've normalized the humor. Don't buy that nonsense excuse, people who aren't complete donkey-caves don't make jokes about this stuff.

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CadianSgtBob wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
Risk what exactly? Even odds the person behind it is a right-wing nutjob, just a troll looking for a rise out of people, *or* someone who thinks that there are two many right-wing nutjobs in the fanbase and it looking to "prove" it through using a sockpuppet account.


Doxing, harassment, etc. Trolls like this have an unfortunate habit of taking things offline if they find an opening.


Yes but... what exactly is being risked that isn't already?
   
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I agree that they're an donkey-cave, and that's no excuse, but this is a case of them just being an donkey-cave troll. If people in your local areas are homophobic, transphobic, racist, or any kind of ist or phobic, you're definitely in a worse position and potentially in danger. But let's not lump this kind of stupidity in with actual racists, homophobes, etc.. And if you mean offensive humor, offensive humor is great. It just needs to be done well.

Blindmage, I'm sympathetic. I'm a gay man myself, with a transgender girlfriend. I have family that is extremely racist and homophobic, and so does she. Your FLGS definitely needs to have more Friendly in your Local Game Store. It's okay to be cautious, but these online interactions with losers that only want to troll provide nothing, and only strengthen their want to say these things. I'm not saying transphobes and such don't exist, all I'm saying is that they're not representative of the hobby, and not the majority of the hobby. They're just a loud and idiotic group, and since they're in your area, I hope you are safe and well.


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Also, I don't know if you play in a competitive or tournament heavy area, but in my experience, competitive stuff can attract donkey-caves. It doesn't necessarily, but it can.

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‘What Lorgar’s fanatics have not seen is that these gods are nothing compared to the power and the majesty of the Machine-God. Already, members of our growing cult are using the grace of the Omnissiah – the true Omnissiah, not Terra’s false prophet – to harness the might of the warp. Geller fields, warp missiles, void shields, all these things you are familiar with. But their underlying principles can be turned to so much more. Through novel exploitations of these technologies we will gain mastery first over the energies of the empyrean, then over the lesser entities, until finally the very gods themselves will bend the knee and recognise the supremacy of the Machine-God"
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 TheBestBucketHead wrote:
But let's not lump this kind of stupidity in with actual racists, homophobes, etc.


See previous comment about how "it's just a joke" is a standard strategy used by those actual racists/homophobes/etc. It isn't just a joke at all, that's a calculated defensive strategy to let them push their offensive views without getting booted out of a community over it. Everything RealAndTrue is saying is exactly in line with what the 4chan Nazis do and the things they genuinely believe.

And if you mean offensive humor, offensive humor is great. It just needs to be done well.


"Gay people are mentally ill lol" isn't a joke just because they put "lol" at the end.

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 TheBestBucketHead wrote:
This guy is a troll, but is definitely harmless. It was obvious since his first few posts. And please don't use him as proof that the hobby is full of alt right idiots or nazis. People like trolling. The fact that anyone takes him seriously is odd, considering I see this attitude all the time in video games. Just trying to provoke people for a laugh. The best thing to do is ignore and report them.

Contributing to an environment where people feel they may be harmed isn't harmless. That one may well be completely ineffectual in person, but being part of and actively contributing to a hostile environment isn't OK. Bragging about 'taking care' of people who's beliefs don't align is right out.
Reporting is a given, letting it continue (ignoring), not so much.

He's more obvious than others, but he's just the beret on a pile of terrible people that crawled out of the woodwork to proclaim their bigotry in the progenitor thread to this one.
I've got 30-some people on my ignore list. Some are just ones I find personally annoying because of their posting style or simple repetitiveness (same things to say on the same topics every time), but a good 20 or so are there because they're really obviously racist, misogynist or anti anyone who falls under the umbrella of queer.* Most of them are still around (some got bored and left). So this one isn't proof, just more of the same and louder with it.


*sorry to anyone that prefers LGBT+, but the acronym annoys me. Acronyms are for things, not people. Too many years of federal jargon, and it feels less inclusive to boot (YMMV, other people have legit reasons to prefer it)

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