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Not much love for the box

Well the second attempt at a top/bottom worked out fine and fits the rest of the box.
Not had much time to do a lot today as I did some 1:1 shelf building, but I have a question.

I've been marking up the inside of the pieces to help with building. At the moment you're only getting X, Y and Z (as described earlier), but on my copy and to make my life easier I wrote on each piece where they match up with the other pieces (the 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the picture). Would you want this on the final pieces or is that a bit too much of an idiot's guide?

I can also mark up the top/bottom pieces as they really do make a difference which way round they are.

Also, how neat would you want the inside? They are quite rough in places, but you won't be seeing it in the built boxes, so does it really matter?

Box is great! Sorry, I thought I posted that already! Great idea with the letter keying.

Thanks Dave. I was just wondering what opinions were on the fit of the pieces etc...

Sorry, love the box, where do I order?

Letter keying or even a scratch that only lines up on relevant sides would work. And would be helpful.

As to the insides, I would not be worried, but it does give me an idea for you. You could make "fillers" so it looks like the crate is nearly full of grenades, or maybe contains a toilet! Just an idea.

Fit should be as well as you can get it really. Anyone who buys it and can't be bothered to sand a little bit is just lazy IMHO. No one expects the exacting standards of a Japanese plastic kit after all

Exactly what the boss just said.

Camkierhi wrote:Sorry, love the box, where do I order?

Letter keying or even a scratch that only lines up on relevant sides would work. And would be helpful.

As to the insides, I would not be worried, but it does give me an idea for you. You could make "fillers" so it looks like the crate is nearly full of grenades, or maybe contains a toilet! Just an idea.

Just need to be a little bit more patient. This is all new to me at the moment and I want it to be right, right from the start.

I had future plans for "open" boxes, but actually making a "full" box of stuff it not a bad idea...
Just a flat piece that sits just inside and I would "have" to texture the underside of the lid... or at least make a "both side" lid available...
Cogs are whirring...
Thanks Cam.

dsteingass wrote:Fit should be as well as you can get it really. Anyone who buys it and can't be bothered to sand a little bit is just lazy IMHO. No one expects the exacting standards of a Japanese plastic kit after all

It would be nice to achieve as close to that standard as I can though.
I agree though, these do fit together reasonably well and people can leave them rough as they are or fill/sand them to get perfect boxes...

Your masters may be exact, but with gravity pouring, you are always going to have some variations in thicknesses. It's unavoidable.

Letters for better matching is a workers must, I use letters or crosses and such signs all the time. Teached by my grandpa there is no way around it anymore for me! Also...I wouldnt be too averse for a box that is empty but with woodgraine inside too...

Loving the casts Dr, but i can't help thinking that miliput is an expesnive option to use as the casting material?? Would you be better using dental plaster - 25kg bag for sale on eBay for £19.00 (inc P&P)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dental-Plaster-25kg-bag-/161120797223?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Medical_Equipment_Instruments_ET&hash=item25838c4227

BTW, I always thought your Army of the Second Law was something to do with the 3 laws in I Robot !! DOH!

No it's the second law of fight club......

DON'T TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

Thanks for that link been trying to find some of that stuff.

^that i want to see clobbered into an army...

dsteingass wrote:Your masters may be exact, but with gravity pouring, you are always going to have some variations in thicknesses. It's unavoidable.

Good point Dave. I'll dial down my perfectionism to 10 and consider them nearly ready.

Viktor von Domm wrote:Letters for better matching is a workers must, I use letters or crosses and such signs all the time. Teached by my grandpa there is no way around it anymore for me! Also...I wouldnt be too averse for a box that is empty but with woodgraine inside too...

Cool, I'll add some markings.
Yeah, an empty box will happen in the future. It's just a lot more work, but maybe there'll be a shortcut when I get to casting the closed boxes, will have to see.

Ruglud wrote:Loving the casts Dr, but i can't help thinking that miliput is an expesnive option to use as the casting material?? Would you be better using dental plaster - 25kg bag for sale on eBay for £19.00 (inc P&P)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dental-Plaster-25kg-bag-/161120797223?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Medical_Equipment_Instruments_ET&hash=item25838c4227

Thanks Ruglud. Yeah, it's not the cheapest option, but it's only for the single individual masters and I had it on hand to use.
That's a good idea, I might pick some of that up. Thanks.

BTW, I always thought your Army of the Second Law was something to do with the 3 laws in I Robot !! DOH!

Ha ha, well that's something to keep in mind for when I come to add some Necrons...

If you would like to know more about The (Mad) Scientist and his army and don't want to trawl through this blog to find all the fluff pieces I have it all in my "Compiled Army Fluff" article. Where you can learn about his decent into madness and how he plans to achieve his aims (and what those aims are)...

I'll also have to find a way to include that club that we can't talk about in the army somewhere...

I'll update later... when I have something to update about...

I'll also have to find a way to include that club that we can't talk about in the army somewhere...

stuff like that should be written on tanks... or on banners...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

I'll also have to find a way to include that club that we can't talk about in the army somewhere...

stuff like that should be written on tanks... or on banners...

make a Tyler Durden

Vik, that reminds me, I still have to try a make a flag for the wave serpent as some point.
and weren't you going to make a flag for something...

Galorn; but what could you play him as? Is there a character that is particularly good in hand to hand?

I've done a little painting today and may have something to show tomorrow.

Twin lightning clawed Marine Captain?

Eldar Autarch who is a ex-scorpion?

IG Stormtrooper? Marbo? not sure, new IG codex rumors seem a bit weird

Thanks shas.
My first thought was a Marbo-alike, but Tyler isn't really the sneaky type. (and I do already have a plan/fluff for a Marbo-alike)

Autarch is a possibility, but can he take a beating like Tyler?

I know nothing about stormtroopers, I'll have to look into them.

And then there's how to play the alternate personality thing...

Well I said I would post and update today, so here it is.


The red on Guardian #9 is mostly done (I think I may touch up some of the highlights that are a little thick).
The black needs highlights and the white faceplate needs to be made white.
The brown bits are just the start of the painting of the cloak and gun, much more work to be done there.

The box here is the original sprue box (the one that isn't quite square) with the dodgy putty top/bottom added.
This will just be like a showcase example of what you can do with your boxes.
Not finished yet.
But a shout out to Weety for the "adding grey to a bright colour" to make it more muted, top tip.

I'm going to try out some more two-part moulds with the Oyumaru tomorrow and see if I can take the toilets to the next stage.
Dental plaster should be arriving Tuesday, Thanks Ruglud.

Tyler......whats the name of that Ogryn body guard fella....maybe...

No9 Looks brilliant, and the box is excellent, can't wait until you get this going.

Nork Deddog is the Ogryn bodyguard.

Heh! stormtroopers are still IG but with some better stats and armor than 5+ they get the 4+ armor. Hellguns, and both K and F grenades and 2 special weapons per 10 man squad.

All looking good... LOL moment though is seeing a toilet in the background

That comes in the bundle deal. Order a toilet and it comes shipped in a container . I think any imperfection with he box has more o do with the carpenter who assembled it than your carving ability.

Thanks Cam. I am simultaneously excited to get this all going and scared...

I'll look into them shas. Ta.

 Ruglud wrote:
All looking good... LOL moment though is seeing a toilet in the background

Thanks Ruglud.
Yeah, that picture pretty much covers all of my current unfinished pieces; the two Guardians, the boxes, the toilets, the swords and axes, my next commission piece and a mystery object at the very top right... The only thing missing is what's next to that mystery object that I have shown before by itself and will get used very soon (which is to say the lower body replacement solution...).

Ha Ha. Thanks Theo.
That may have to wait until I have boxes with an inside...

Just to show you that I have tried out a two-part mould of a toilet, can't quite tell how well it's turned out yet as the putty is still a little soft to attempt to remove it from the mould.

and the box with a rough marking added (although this one is better than the one on the other side...).

The eagle imprint on the box looks ace , the toilet even if messed up can be painted as a tainted toilet if need be .

 Theophony wrote:
The eagle imprint on the box looks ace ,

At least it's recognisable. Thanks.

tainted toilet

I think that's the perfect name for it. The other one can be "Tiny Toilet".

You can have a terror toilet too.....just add teeth and a tongue. It can be the foul chaos corrupted crapper

Sorry but the sign on the side of the box totally puts in mind.......has that got the Ark in there?

Looking good.

Lol Theo.

 Camkierhi wrote:
Sorry but the sign on the side of the box totally puts in mind.......has that got the Ark in there?

Looking good.

That's not entirely unintentional...
Although I planned to do a proper one when I've got a box of the correct dimensions (I believe the "rectangular" box I'm planning of casting tomorrow will be nearer).
Thanks.

I've extracted the test cast of the Tainted Toilet.

Not a brilliant turn out. Obviously the rough edges can be smoothed out, but there is a strange bulge on one side (I assume I didn't get the mould onto the original properly) and I broke one side of the base (that's been fixed with glue).
Not bad for a first attempt at a complex shape though.

I've now made a (hopefully) better mould now as well as moulds for the next box. I'll give them a go tomorrow.
Time for a bit of painting...

Yay toilets!

Next logical project: