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Seven weeks! That's enough to make any self-respecting man-baby howl in rage, I'll concede, but personally I'm too pissed off that it's still twelve weeks until I get to see what Santa has brought me this year to have even considered that.
   
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JWBS wrote:
Seven weeks! That's enough to make any self-respecting man-baby howl in rage, I'll concede, but personally I'm too pissed off that it's still twelve weeks until I get to see what Santa has brought me this year to have even considered that.


Ah, ad hominem arguments, lovely. If you can't be right, you might as well make yourself feel better, no?
   
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JWBS wrote:
Seven weeks! That's enough to make any self-respecting man-baby howl in rage, I'll concede, but personally I'm too pissed off that it's still twelve weeks until I get to see what Santa has brought me this year to have even considered that.


"Everyone who disagrees with me is an entitled manchild - the GW defender's guide to online discussion"

The amount of times i heard this exact sentiment anytime someone criticizes GW for anything.

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That's not adhom, this is just theoretical, because no-one is actually complaining about the wait, remember, it's a complaint about something else.
   
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I dunno, i saw plenty of people quite upset about the fact that the rules for their army were paywalled behind a box that sold out in 5 minutes for nearly two months. Which is quite a reasonable thing to complain about.

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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And being annoyed because a product was released, but in an extremely limited fashion, and inside another product that sold out within seconds is quite a bit different to, and I quote:

"And if the box is shown then all people will do is complain about why the box isn't out yet."

But, y'know, top marks for trying to claim 2 + 2 = race car.




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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I dunno, i saw plenty of people quite upset about the fact that the rules for their army were paywalled behind a box that sold out in 5 minutes for nearly two months. Which is quite a reasonable thing to complain about.


You're misunderstanding what they're trying to do.

I asked for examples of people complaining that they had to wait and the example they claimed proved that was people complaining about the ork codex only being available in the army box long before the shelf release of the codex itself. I pointed out that was a complaint about being forced to buy the codex in an army set. So what buddy is doing here is spinning to say that his bad argument about the 7 week wait time, which then turned into arguments attacking people for who they were, don't matter, because the evidence was never about waiting in the first place, it was about not being able to access the codex outside of the army box.

In summary, the guy has demonstrated he isn't worth arguing with because: 1) he won't stand by his weak evidence, 2) when pushed on things he will either make personal attacks or just move the goal posts and make you waste your time.

Just sigh at how sad it is and move on.
   
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My example was the BT box, not the beast snaggas. That was someone else. That wasn't me. Also, even though that's not a quote from me, I will say you can replace the word "box" with the words "Limited codex" and also the word "box" with the word "codex' and that's what we've been talking about for the past 10 minutes. Have a read, it's all still there. Just a skim read will suffice (I know you haven't already done that, as evidenced). You can do it Champ, I believe in you.
   
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Is the BT codex released yet? No.
So we go off of the precedent of what has been released in a similar fashion before, Ie, the ork beast snagga box and the later ork codex.

Again, not complicated.
   
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 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So what buddy is doing here is spinning to say that his bad argument about the 7 week wait time, which then turned into arguments attacking people for who they were, don't matter, because the evidence was never about waiting in the first place, it was about not being able to access the codex outside of the army box.


Just sigh at how sad it is and move on.


You can access to codex outside the box. There was a seven week wait though. So if the complaint was being unable to access the codex but not the seven week wait, then there's literally no complaint to be had. This is very rudimentary stuff.
   
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Germany

JWBS wrote:
 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So what buddy is doing here is spinning to say that his bad argument about the 7 week wait time, which then turned into arguments attacking people for who they were, don't matter, because the evidence was never about waiting in the first place, it was about not being able to access the codex outside of the army box.


Just sigh at how sad it is and move on.


You can access to codex outside the box. There was a seven week wait though. So if the complaint was being unable to access the codex but not the seven week wait, then there's literally no complaint to be had. This is very rudimentary stuff.


1. You messed up the formatting.
2. If you can't see why "Most of the fanbase can't access the official rules for their army for two months" is a valid complaint, then that's entirely your problem.

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 Gert wrote:
Riiiiiiiiight sure thing chief. We never see people complain about when things are getting released ever. It's completely unheard of.
The Legion Dispatch sucks, it really does. But there was no way the new box was going to even be partially discussed/shown when AoS 3 was being released and Orks/BT were getting their hype built up.


As much as I want all Heresy, all the time, right this very minute, this hits the nail on the head exactly. The leaked images were spoiled literally right before GW did the huge Age of Sigmar push for the new edition, and from what we've seen so far, the release schedule immediately after that was also packed with a bunch of non-Heresy releases. Those leaks were at the worst time possible(whether intentional or not) and there was absolutely no way that GW was going to discuss them at any point between then and now.

My guess is that sometime in mid-October we'll get to see some more previews, possibly even a Preview Weekend, for anything Horus Heresy-related. Until then we can sit on our hands and speculate, but GW probably isn't going to talk anytime in the next couple weeks.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Riiiiiiiiight sure thing chief. We never see people complain about when things are getting released ever. It's completely unheard of.
The Legion Dispatch sucks, it really does. But there was no way the new box was going to even be partially discussed/shown when AoS 3 was being released and Orks/BT were getting their hype built up.


As much as I want all Heresy, all the time, right this very minute, this hits the nail on the head exactly. The leaked images were spoiled literally right before GW did the huge Age of Sigmar push for the new edition, and from what we've seen so far, the release schedule immediately after that was also packed with a bunch of non-Heresy releases. Those leaks were at the worst time possible(whether intentional or not) and there was absolutely no way that GW was going to discuss them at any point between then and now.

My guess is that sometime in mid-October we'll get to see some more previews, possibly even a Preview Weekend, for anything Horus Heresy-related. Until then we can sit on our hands and speculate, but GW probably isn't going to talk anytime in the next couple weeks.


Especially since GW loves leaking out kits so monumentally slow to stretch release times out.
   
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Riiiiiiiiight sure thing chief. We never see people complain about when things are getting released ever. It's completely unheard of.
The Legion Dispatch sucks, it really does. But there was no way the new box was going to even be partially discussed/shown when AoS 3 was being released and Orks/BT were getting their hype built up.


As much as I want all Heresy, all the time, right this very minute, this hits the nail on the head exactly. The leaked images were spoiled literally right before GW did the huge Age of Sigmar push for the new edition, and from what we've seen so far, the release schedule immediately after that was also packed with a bunch of non-Heresy releases. Those leaks were at the worst time possible(whether intentional or not) and there was absolutely no way that GW was going to discuss them at any point between then and now.

My guess is that sometime in mid-October we'll get to see some more previews, possibly even a Preview Weekend, for anything Horus Heresy-related. Until then we can sit on our hands and speculate, but GW probably isn't going to talk anytime in the next couple weeks.


Especially since GW loves leaking out kits so monumentally slow to stretch release times out.


Part of this is global shipping issues and pandemic situations. Everyone is short on everything. Trading card games, gundam kits, hell, some restaurants can't even get shipments of plastic cups in.

If GW could, they'd be pumping things out /faster/ than they release them, and for most of 8th that's pretty much exactly what happened. Things came out at a breakneck pace as GW tried to dial in their releases for the maximum amount of pain they could inflict upon people's wallets.

The fact that they're not has less to do with GW's plans and more to do with greater worldwide situation. For all we know, without the pandemic, that Horus Heresy box set might have already been out, hence the early leak.
   
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Will these minis be Primaris scale or not? I've been looking forward to this release thinking the marines are properly sized but some guy on reddit has said he thinks they're oldscale and now I'm doubting myself

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Australia

They're bigger than the old BOP/BAC plastics, but aren't Primaris size. Most likely around the size of the Thousand Sons/latest CSM plastics - hard to tell for certain, but they don't look oldscale to me.

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
And sure, I assumed too much
 
   
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Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan

Nah, the shoulders are much broader, the ankles on the IF look HUGE, and the guy who's head is cropped out in the background looks to have the Hajime Katoki-esq long legs of a Primaris too, which is a thing with Primaris-scaling. You can also tell by the weird, spindly stretched waist that the new Castellan Crowe also suffers from on that SOH sarge. If you grab a 32mm base and compare it to what the IF is standing on you can kind of get a notion for their sizes.

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You'd imagine they'd all be around the size of the new IF Praetors

Which are discussed here: https://youtu.be/7D8I47GE7Mg

   
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Its unlikely they will be the size of the IF terminator praetor - he is dramatically oversized! The newer Ultramarine terminator is back to the normal scale.

Most likely they will be the same scale as the newer Praetors (including the IF power armour one) and the Dark Angels units have been for the last couple of years - the CSM/Space Marine Heroes scale.

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TBH the most exciting thing for me is that those bonding studs don't seem to have undercuts.
   
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My guess is they will be the same height as either the MK3 or death watch MK8 models. Does anyone have a picture of all the FW and GW power armor marks lined up? Most of the pictures I’ve seen are photoshopped from multiple angles or some of the bases in the group are build up with card stock or cork.
   
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These are the plastic ones. My firstborn are all packed away, but they should be about the size of the csm. I only got SoH Reavers from fw so can't comment on that.

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Atramentar Rules anyone? New exemplary battles free download:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/04/launch-a-daring-strike-into-the-heart-of-ultramar-with-the-night-lords/
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
Atramentar Rules anyone?
Top photo on p6 - they're AoS Stormcast shoulder pads, right?
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
Atramentar Rules anyone?
Top photo on p6 - they're AoS Stormcast shoulder pads, right?

Yup, specially the Champion/Sergeant's ones or whatever they're called.

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A new Ultramarine hits the scene!






And before anyone asks:
Forge World wrote:The miniature itself is a single-pose resin figure with a choice of two heads – helmed and unhelmed.

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Warwickscire

Nice! Good to see them filling out the missing special characters
   
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So much better than the last ultramarine standard FW released...
   
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Warwickscire

 GaroRobe wrote:
So much better than the last ultramarine standard FW released...


I wonder if that was supposed to be old Remus but was rejected...
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

And before anyone asks:
Forge World wrote:The miniature itself is a single-pose resin figure with a choice of two heads – helmed and unhelmed.


Damn. At first glance I read single poor resin figure.

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