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Warhams-77 wrote:
The rumored 130 US$ was not to be trusted, the euro price is 120 EUR according to WD, which is much more than 130 dollar :-(

Shadow War is a bit cheaper than the Calth/Prospero boxed sets though

Euros are Trading almost 1:1 with the US Dollar.

1.07 US per EUR.

So Necron can take Immortals?

What about Deathmarks or Praetorians?

stewe128 wrote:
Bad news gang in the WD they're saying shadow wars will be $150.

retailer/trade listed it as US130/CAD160

 judgedoug wrote:

The listed prices in the White Dwarf may be off, as my FLGS received a different sales price than what was listed.

A last minute price change has happened before. Hopefully other regions get a reduced price too.

The FLGS is still waiting on confirmation, but if true, it's €15,- off around here.

 Nilok wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The rumored 130 US$ was not to be trusted, the euro price is 120 EUR according to WD, which is much more than 130 dollar :-(

Shadow War is a bit cheaper than the Calth/Prospero boxed sets though

Euros are Trading almost 1:1 with the US Dollar.

1.07 US per EUR.

Good point but GW uses constant price categories If they lowered the price excellent, I felt it was too expensive, even with a discount.

Altjack wrote:
Since Eldar rules have been posted already, I'll only point out that the artillery is hilarious. A friend figured out that the model using it could hide behind cover and still fire the weapon without exposing themselves. Since the shot comes from the gun. Have to confirm it myself.

Assuming the rules are similar to Necromunda, you'd still need line of sight from the firing model (i.e. the Guardian), even if the shot comes from elsewhere – otherwise the target would be completely obscured and not a viable target.

 Apologist wrote:
Assuming the rules are similar to Necromunda, you'd still need line of sight from the firing model (i.e. the Guardian), even if the shot comes from elsewhere – otherwise the target would be completely obscured and not a viable target.

The rules preview shows that LOS is taken from the weapon and not the gunner.
http://www.lavozdehorus.com/wp-content/uploads/17623090_10102132933441720_2025001635_o-577x1024.jpg


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I like that they have split the orcs into their traditional factions for skill advancement, i wonder if there are any other differences like special rules etc.

Makes sense. The gunner Would make use of the optics on the weapon. Transferred either to a screen on the wrist, or goggles like on the old models.

 MangoMadness wrote:

 Apologist wrote:
Assuming the rules are similar to Necromunda, you'd still need line of sight from the firing model (i.e. the Guardian), even if the shot comes from elsewhere – otherwise the target would be completely obscured and not a viable target.

The rules preview shows that LOS is taken from the weapon and not the gunner.
http://www.lavozdehorus.com/wp-content/uploads/17623090_10102132933441720_2025001635_o-577x1024.jpg

Huh, well happy to be corrected!

 CardBoardKing wrote:
Check out this video "Shadow War Armageddon Rules Review and PLAYTEST!" http://www.twitch.tv/thedroppodcast/v/131947237?sr=a&t=0s

Sat down with kill team sheets for Tau and Grey Knights. Will be doing full actual games tomorrow. Some people may not have seen the stats for army lists, so, we threw together Jill teams ND navigated the rules reference and army sheets the best we could.

Were you not supposed to post a new video yesterday or today?

Am I missing something on the Tau roster. The difference between the Pathfinder and the cadet is only that the Pathfinder can tale pistols? But they cost 10 points more.

Are pistols even an option in the kit?

How much is it in £?

Huh

Vorian wrote:
Am I missing something on the Tau roster. The difference between the Pathfinder and the cadet is only that the Pathfinder can tale pistols? But they cost 10 points more.

Are pistols even an option in the kit?

There are from what i can remember a couple of holstered pistols in the Pathfinder kit, but no options to have models holding pistols.

The cadets can't be advanced until they survive 3 missions, then they become troopers and you can then choose to advance one of them after a mission.

richstrach wrote:

Vorian wrote:
Am I missing something on the Tau roster. The difference between the Pathfinder and the cadet is only that the Pathfinder can tale pistols? But they cost 10 points more.

Are pistols even an option in the kit?

There are from what i can remember a couple of holstered pistols in the Pathfinder kit, but no options to have models holding pistols.

There's one holstered and one unholstered. The unholstered one can be placed into one of the hands that is meant for holding things.

Just got in touch with my mate who runs a store, he hasn't heard back from GW on the prices, so chances are good that those listed in the White Dwarf are incorrect.

We'll know for sure tomorrow of course.

 Dravis wrote:
The cadets can't be advanced until they survive 3 missions, then they become troopers and you can then choose to advance one of them after a mission.

Ah, is that a core rule? I thought everyone could only have 3 advances and that's what the boxes are for on the sheet ... but it's new recruits need to go through 3 battles before they are eligible to be the one guy that gets an advance?

At least there's one pistol for an insane HtH Tau guy then!

Yeah, what happens when recruits become troopers seems to change dependent on kill team.
Guardians swap out their gun for a free Dire Avenger one.
But Necron Warriors just become troopers.

Is it maximum of 50% of your gang can be recruits? Like Juves in Necromunda

Not mentioned in the rules I saw, the only limitations were 1 leader and refer to kill team for number of specialists.

so wait, do orks have to roll a 5-6 to hit, and then afterwards if they've rolled a six make an ammo roll?

So half each time they roll a hit they have have to follow it up with at least a five of discontinue use of their gun? 0.o 100% of the time if their target has any cover?

When do the rules go up in NZ?

Interesting, looking forward to getting my hands on it for myself!

 NivlacSupreme wrote:
How much is it in £?

£90

 davou wrote:
so wait, do orks have to roll a 5-6 to hit, and then afterwards if they've rolled a six make an ammo roll?

So half each time they roll a hit they have have to follow it up with at least a five of discontinue use of their gun? 0.o 100% of the time if their target has any cover?

Ammo rolls are on 2d6 now i believe (so 5+ adding the result of 2 die). And as a gorkamorka player, yup, that about sums up trying to play a shooting game with orks.

Gorkamorka was different though, since orks were BS 3 back then.

It's difficult to get a read on the balance because there are lots of differences compared to Necromunda. Some things seem crazy, but then it's hard to imagine how faster M or better armour being everywhere will affect it.

Still seems like Skitarii are going to be thoroughly unpleasant to face though

I am not sure this is thread worthy, but I noticed this in white dwarf. New guard stuff incoming?
For context there was a similar hint about the Kharadron last month.