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Another pic of Stryx
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New Jersey, State of Perfection

The renders looked a lot better...

I go back to my previous statement, the painters and photographers are holding the miniatures back.

This ain't no pansy GW Armor, son - Digital Sculpting Plog, Now with Heavy Weapon Platforms!
Sympathy for the Devil, or: The Project Log from Hell

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It reads like the ramblings of a Nigerian lobotomized Shakespeare typed into a cellphone with a very aggressive autocomplete function.
 
   
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Not a fan.

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First miss in a while from them...but a pretty big miss at that!

   
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It looks like it's wrapped in pillows

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:
The renders looked a lot better...

I go back to my previous statement, the painters and photographers are holding the miniatures back.


Yes absolutely agree. I will hold off judgment until we see these models in the wild.

The Incarnate Sentinels were painted/photographs so poorly I didn't even know where the head of the model was located.
   
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New Jersey, State of Perfection

Thats how I feel about most of the Conquest miniature range. The official photos for their minis actively repulsed me by displaying what appeared to be poorly sculpted and poorly detailed blobs which if you squinted looked kind of like a miniature.

It wasn't until I wandered into a local shop while some of the regulars were playing with their mostly mostly unpainted minis that I realized how awesome the sculpts for this game are and thats what got me to buy in,

And it isn't even that the painters are bad, per se, its just that their color choices (and possibly understanding of color theory in general) and painting style are not conducive to showcasing miniatures. They are washing out all the fine details in the minis with their drab color choices and muddied painting style and creating visual chaos where your eye can't find a focal point to settle on - I *think* as a result of the extreme edge highlighting coupled with not properly accenting/trimming sections of the mini to break it up into more recognizable forms.

It might work well for single miniature photography, but as almost all of their official product showcase photos are of ranked up units its a nightmare to look at as everything kind of meshes with everything else.

And the photos aren't making it any better - between the really busy photo backgrounds which distract the eye from the minis and enhance general visual confusion,the lack of proper focus/tendency of the photos to blur away from the unit centers (leaving more than half of the minis in the unit relatively indistinct and fuzzy), what appears to be harsh lighting washing out areas of the minis in natural light/shadow and/or possibly post-processing which is washing out colors and muting contrast, etc. the photos are often just eyesores to look at. And then i think the worst offender is that it seems most of their minis are being photographed using the same/similar awful camera angle from slightly above that is unflattering to the minis themselves and often results in the minis faces (which would otherwise be a natural focal point of reference for the viewers eyes to settle on) being visually shortened or obscured by things like helmets and headgear, etc. - or in the case of the Household Knights, hidden completely behind a banner:



This photo should never have been authorized for publication. To be honest I'm not even sure anyone even really looked at it all that closely. Let me tell you - it took me a LOOOOOOOONG time to realize that the handguard for the banner was not a really awkwardly shaped helmet. And on top of that, instead of being shown the front-side of the shield, which I assume is painted with a cool heraldic device or something, you're treated to the bland boring undetailed backsides. IMO, the unit *really* should have been photographed from the opposite angle instead of using the same angle that they have used for basically everything else.

The single character minis are much better photographed - taken from an angle much closer to level or possibly slightly below level which is much more flattering to the miniatures, although a lot of them still suffer from a lack of appropriate angles to showcase the sculpt, take for example this guy:



I have no idea what it is I'm looking at in his right hand (or is that his hand?) Is it a big triangular shield like the background artwork implies? Or is it a long narrow futuristic looking railgun type of thing? It almost looks like it could be a weird metal pincer claw type thing too. The background artwork also causes a lot of trouble here as its hard to tell whats background artwork and what model, particularly in the area of his right armpit/below his arm/in between his pincer railgun shield and body, etc.

Another good example:



Presumably, thats a pretty wicked polearm type weapon being held over their left shoulder, presumably angled back and downward with the point protruding out past the miniatures right kneecap - but feth me if I have any idea what it looks like. In general the entire upper half of the mini in this photo is absolute chaos - presumably they are holding their right arm across their torso and up to grip the handle of their weapon but between the paint style, color choices, and sculpt itself its really hard to tell whats arm and whats torso or wtf is even going on. This is a mini that would have benefited immensely from being photographed at another angle (or better yet a variety of angles).

This ain't no pansy GW Armor, son - Digital Sculpting Plog, Now with Heavy Weapon Platforms!
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:It reads like the ramblings of a Nigerian lobotomized Shakespeare typed into a cellphone with a very aggressive autocomplete function.
 
   
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I'd argue some need a full on 360 video on the site, especially with models like the Highborn lineage where you can't really see anything that's going on with it.

The steelshaper is just a weird model. I had to get one just to see what was going on there under his shield. I also just realized I haven't painted him yet. Whoops.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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The shield IS his arm.

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ERJAK wrote:
...probably has a some amount of Nazi memorabilia, has many concerning opinions about racial and cultural minorities, and/or likely refers to women as 'females'.
--Saying this about another member does not violate Dakka's Rule #1, apparently. 
   
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New pre-orders for your heads
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/apparel/257-conquest-big-c-beanie-hat.html
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/apparel/256-conquest-big-c-beanie-hat.html
   
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 Shadow Walker wrote:
Another pic of Stryx


This is definitely not an official picture. More likely it was a preview done by a third party.

On another note, new Warbred pictures!
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Sasorijap wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
Another pic of Stryx


This is definitely not an official picture. More likely it was a preview done by a third party.

The pic is from the instagram account of the one who says he is an engineer for PBW.
   
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Duncan Rhodes painted some Conquest!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRPSAionrbU/
   
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And for those blocked/unable to check instagram:
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Stryx, Konungyr, Skald and Dweghom Tactical Retinue can be pre-ordered:
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/the-spires/253-spires-stryx.html
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/nords/255-nords-konungyr-.html
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/nords/254-nords-skald.html
https://eshop.para-bellum.com/dweghom/246-dweghom-tactical-retinue.html
   
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Stryx
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100K Null Mage - Command upgrade for the Hunter Cadre. For some reason you can only see it when you click on 1 of the pre-orders, and only at the bottom of the site, hence the small print screen pic only. Probably it waits to be announced soon.
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Art for the Ice Jotnar
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Geez that Ice Jotnar is sweet! If it looks anything like artwork/ 3D render it will be the best looking giant out there!

One of them filthy casuals... 
   
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 godswildcard wrote:
Geez that Ice Jotnar is sweet! If it looks anything like artwork/ 3D render it will be the best looking giant out there!

Sadly, it seldom does.
That's a recurring issue I noticed with Conquest - the art direction is amazing, but their modeling could use a little more work.
Hopefully it will improve over time.

What I have
~4100
~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

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I stand by my previous statements that the modeling isn't the issue - its the studio painting/photography thats the problem.

This ain't no pansy GW Armor, son - Digital Sculpting Plog, Now with Heavy Weapon Platforms!
Sympathy for the Devil, or: The Project Log from Hell

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It reads like the ramblings of a Nigerian lobotomized Shakespeare typed into a cellphone with a very aggressive autocomplete function.
 
   
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on the forum. Obviously

chaos0xomega wrote:
I stand by my previous statements that the modeling isn't the issue - its the studio painting/photography thats the problem.

Probably. It's honestly hard to tell if it's the model or the paint job. They look like cheap toys as they are.
Is there a non-studio painted model as a point of comparison?

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What I have
~4100
~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
Made in us
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New Jersey, State of Perfection

Only the ones you buy or what you can find online. My realization that these minis are actually good came from seeing assembled but unpainted minis at a local store, followed by buying some of my own.

EDIT - Mind you, some of them are decisively not good, with the exception of a couple sculpts I'm not big on the Spires range of minis, but that might be an aesthetic thing more than a quality thing.

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This ain't no pansy GW Armor, son - Digital Sculpting Plog, Now with Heavy Weapon Platforms!
Sympathy for the Devil, or: The Project Log from Hell

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It reads like the ramblings of a Nigerian lobotomized Shakespeare typed into a cellphone with a very aggressive autocomplete function.
 
   
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A part of it is that their early plastics really aren't that good. Soft details, awkward posing, they just don't hold up to the rest of the market.

However, the company has had a massive amount of improvement in a relatively short period of time. I've never seen a company improve their sculpt quality so much inside of two years. The newest plastics could pass as being from a different company entirely, the difference is that dramatic. They certainly have plenty more room to improve but their efforts at such so far have been quite successful.

Also they must put unicorn blood in their resin or something because that stuff is just fantastic.

Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page

I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
ERJAK wrote:
...probably has a some amount of Nazi memorabilia, has many concerning opinions about racial and cultural minorities, and/or likely refers to women as 'females'.
--Saying this about another member does not violate Dakka's Rule #1, apparently. 
   
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The Ice Jotnar will be resin. Since their resin is probably the best miniature material I've seen, it will most likely be exactly like the render.
   
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Null mage and Herald of Stone

I think they head your feedback about the pictures
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Cool glad to see they are chugging along.

I hope they seriously fix the balance issues with some of the factions still.
   
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V1.5 is going to bring a lot of changes to the balance in a positive way At least many of the more "meh" units are going to be considerably more appealing.
   
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Sasorijap wrote:
Null mage and Herald of Stone

I think they head your feedback about the pictures

Those look nice.
I wasn't a fan of the Dweghom but that one looks fine.
I don't like the crown on the Null Mage, looks silly.

What I have
~4100
~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
Made in pl
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

I don't like the crown on the Null Mage, looks silly.
Agreed. Without it this model would look much better. Fortunately it is an easy fix.
   
 
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