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Rynner wrote:
Or you could heal the character d3 wounds to keep them alive.

However though I do need to check to see if your wounds can go below 0.

1CP Martydom-use when a character dies and on a 2+ can perform an Act of Faith

The character is already dead, so unless they are part of a unit, you can't save them that way.

The way the rumor is worded it makes it sound like only the dead character can perform an act of faith which makes it utterly useless in your interruption of the rules.

Rynner wrote:
The way the rumor is worded it makes it sound like only the dead character can perform an act of faith which makes it utterly useless in your interruption of the rules.

I don't see that at all, but no use arguing over a vague rumor.

Fair enough. I'm just hoping Repressors don't get it too bad as I just finally found 5 upgrade kits after months of searching.

Rynner wrote:
Fair enough. I'm just hoping Repressors don't get it too bad as I just finally found 5 upgrade kits and months of searching.

Was it the guy on FB? I almost got those but he couldn't provide any provenance.

No I found them elsewhere.

Same here. I’d been proxying my Repressors for a while and finally got some upgrade kits recently.... I’d hate to have done so much only to have them nerfed to the point of uselessness.

Dont get too excited: I think the stratagem is just that on 2+, the dying character can do AoF as its last action before being removed. Not that insane although canoness firing her inferno pistol would be annoying if her killer is something big.

Blightstar wrote:
Dont get too excited: I think the stratagem is just that on 2+, the dying character can do AoF as its last action before being removed. Not that insane although canoness firing her inferno pistol would be annoying if her killer is something big.

I would be very surprised if this is the case. The Martyrdom rule has always given the surviving Sisters units who apparently witnessed the character being martyred some sort of buff to the AoF mechanic. Not that the character gets a super secret explosion of power after they have been killed but before you remove them from the table top. We don't know for sure, but I think its going to be a lot more like the undead Eldar soulburst rule proxing an AoF to a nearby unit than a last act of defiance for an Imagifer. Seems more in keeping with past versions of the rule and fluff of the Sisters.

The character doing it would be nasty for Celestine, but yeah, doesn't really pay to discuss it until we know.

Exorcist just needs to shoot 2D6 IMO and its fine. Battle cannons can shoot 2x its basically the same thing.

Repressors are the vehicles i love, unless they go up 20pts i'll still use them.

davidgr33n wrote:Same here. I’d been proxying my Repressors for a while and finally got some upgrade kits recently.... I’d hate to have done so much only to have them nerfed to the point of uselessness.

Rynner wrote:No I found them elsewhere.

pretre wrote:

Rynner wrote:
Fair enough. I'm just hoping Repressors don't get it too bad as I just finally found 5 upgrade kits and months of searching.

Was it the guy on FB? I almost got those but he couldn't provide any provenance.

Where'd the three of you get your upgrade kits? If you don't mind me asking.

I mean, using the Spirit of the Martyr act on a 2+ when a character dies.

"Yes, I finally killed the character by reducing her to 0 wounds!"
"Actually, on a 2+ she gets d3 back."

 Sentionaut wrote:

davidgr33n wrote:Same here. I’d been proxying my Repressors for a while and finally got some upgrade kits recently.... I’d hate to have done so much only to have them nerfed to the point of uselessness.

Rynner wrote:No I found them elsewhere.

pretre wrote:

Rynner wrote:
Fair enough. I'm just hoping Repressors don't get it too bad as I just finally found 5 upgrade kits and months of searching.

Was it the guy on FB? I almost got those but he couldn't provide any provenance.

Where'd the three of you get your upgrade kits? If you don't mind me asking.

I converted mine. There's probably a place you could find them on the internet since FW doesn't make them anymore.

@Sentionaut You can find very expensive kits on eBay every once in a while, but I went through Shapeways. They have several kit and finish options

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=Repressor

 davidgr33n wrote:
@Sentionaut You can find very expensive kits on eBay every once in a while, but I went through Shapeways. They have several kit and finish options

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=Repressor

Thanks!

I'm remembering now that a couple pages back on this thread, someone showed off the below pic of a Shapeways Repressor topper, sparking a discussion about the merits of 3D prints because of the uneven surface in contrast to the smooth finish on the GW Rhino chassis underneath it. If you zoom in, you can see that it's the 3D print lines staying visible through the layers of paint.

Did you have the same experience with your topper's surface? And what finish option did you choose? Would be interested to see if you've got any pics. Wondering if they all just come out this way, making sanding a necessary prep step...

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So +20 on Repressor. +50 on Celestine. -25 on Geminae. -3 per hand flamer. -3 per inferno pistol. -10! for eviscerator.


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Exorcist -25 points. Niec.

Thats nice - so if I still use my Geminae - no change at all

Yeah, the -25pts on the Exorcist, IDK if i still want to use one or not,

I knew Celestine would go up only a little, its better this way IMO, now she is more costly but the Gemini are not.

I really like the Hand Flamers/Inferno Pistol point drops.

Yeah, wondering if twin hand flamers are actually usable now.

Going to a doubles tournament soon, with Repressor changes (+20pts) and Exorcist ones, i'm thinking of playing Immolators with Dominions + SB's.

Do you guys feel the Exorcist is worth a take now? I'm still on the Fence about it.

I still don't think the Exorcist is playable from a competitive stand point - its too random for my tastes. A flat 2 or 3 damage would make it worth it though. So well see if that changes.

+20 for the Repressor seems like a huge nerf that I'm not sure was warranted. I'm okay with the changes to Celestine, it just means I'll take BFFs. If the 2+ Act of faith thing is real then when one of her BFF's dies we can get a free act of faith. Smited Celestine in combat and did 2 wounds? Cool. Heres a bunch of s7 d2 attacks.

What I would really like to see is if the rule of one now applies to smite. If thats the case then I do feel sisters got better, if it doesn't it feels like a nerf.

Celestine stayed exactly the same in my lists, since I was running her little buddies anyways.

Lol.

 Amishprn86 wrote:
Going to a doubles tournament soon, with Repressor changes (+20pts) and Exorcist ones, i'm thinking of playing Immolators with Dominions + SB's.

Do you guys feel the Exorcist is worth a take now? I'm still on the Fence about it.

+20 for the Repressor is worth it (and honestly the Repressor deserved it) and is certainly worth it to keep your Dominions from getting obliterated the turn after they disembark from your Immolator. She who bails, fails.

Exorcist? 50 pts more than a HB Ret squad. Hard to say, I will have to try it from my "lets see what this does" points.

Are the Geminae considered characters??

I think 50 pts for Celestine is a bit much, esp when Guilliman only went up what, 25 pts? I hope we get some rules to benefit Sisters with her.

Repressors at an extra 20 was more than I expected. I used to feel bad pulling back from assault and shooting my Girls out from the firing ports, if they haven’t changed the wording, I’ll be putting holy bolter wrath every chance I get.

Yeah the whole unit has the character keyword.

Which may be hilarious with the stratagem. Kill a Geminae? Oh I’ll just hide the unit. Or bring her back.

 pretre wrote:
Which may be hilarious with the stratagem. Kill a Geminae? Oh I’ll just hide the unit. Or bring her back.

Yeah. Funny, haha!

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Which may be hilarious with the stratagem. Kill a Geminae? Oh I’ll just hide the unit. Or bring her back.

Yeah. Funny, haha!

Indeed. Oh, you want to kill my Geminae? Let me scoot over here 12” and set up to charge this lonely unit of yours over here...

Or even better: Oh good you killed Celestine! oh, and with this stratagem she comes back...

....oh you killed her next phase? Oh with this stratagem she comes back.

...oh you killed her and I failed the 2+ on the stratagem? That's okay, she comes back.