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Hello all
I am wondering what army you think is the best to use for indirect fire power.
Now, I know Armored Company and IG are good but I don't like their play style.

I think these are my current options. 
Space Marines
    Vindicators and Whirlwinds
Chaos Marines
    Defilers, and I don't know if Vindicators are available. 
    Iron Warriors are a main one, but with 4 heavy slots I just want to fill them full of pretty predators with autocannons and heavy bolters. 
Eldar:
    Support Platforms, Swooping Hawks, Farseers with Eldritch Storm
    Currently have this stuff but it just doesn't have the umph except for the D Cannon.

If I am missing any of the big ones, go ahead and tell me. . .

Tau are another one to consider. They have lots of weapons that use no LOS, not all of which are template weapons. Smart missile systems are really irritating for the non-tau player.

Nids dont really have powerful indirect fire but i really like spore mines so I thought id mention it. Biovores are a little expensive but you can make it worthwhile.

Vindicators/Demolishers and Eldritch Storm are direct-fire weapons.

Iron Warriors, with access to up to 4 basilisks and/or defilers have the most indirect fire available of all MEq armies. I've seen the mortar-heavy guard army a couple of times, but it didn't seem effective.

LatD (while they still can be played) have Indirect fire weapons too.

I think for indirect fire that ISN'T IG you should go with SM Whirlwinds. They have an low points cost, great against infantry and swarm armies, and if you choose the Dark Angel form you can have incendiary missiles which ignore cover entirely. (Which is good for swarm armies)

I'd say go with SM just because of the versatility and low cost of their indirect fire.

Vindicators can't fire indirect - unless I missed a major change.

I agree about SM Whirlwinds. They're fun, effective and give you plenty of space for other stuff in your list.

It's also a damn good looking model.

Posted By Flavius Infernus on 04/23/2007 7:40 AM
 Eldritch Storm are direct-fire weapons.

Not in the new codex it's not.

Otherwise I agree with basically everything said so far.  Iron Warriors with Defilers and Basilisks can field more indirect firepower than any other army.  An IG army can take three basilisks/griffon mortars, and can still put infantry mortars in their troops, but those are pretty weak.

A marine army with three Whirlwinds can put out a lot of indirect templates too, while still having a sizable SM army because Whirlwinds are cheap.

I know you said that IG aren't your style of play, but the upcoming Forgeworld Death Corps of Kreig list is gearing up to be the indirect fire king. Somebody was saying that they will be able to take Forgeworld heavy mortar batteries as elites (no confirmation, just a rumour) in addition to the metric crapload of HS indirect fire they can attain.

3 units of Thudd Guns as a single force org slot is pretty killer.

Posted By Flavius Infernus on 04/23/2007 7:40 AM
Iron Warriors, with access to up to 4 basilisks and/or defilers have the most indirect fire available of all MEq armies. I've seen the mortar-heavy guard army a couple of times, but it didn't seem effective.

I thought Basilisks were limited to 1 for Iron Warriors.

Posted By skyth on 04/23/2007 1:59 PM

Posted By Flavius Infernus on 04/23/2007 7:40 AM
Iron Warriors, with access to up to 4 basilisks and/or defilers have the most indirect fire available of all MEq armies. I've seen the mortar-heavy guard army a couple of times, but it didn't seem effective.

I thought Basilisks were limited to 1 for Iron Warriors.

They are. . .

It really depends on whether you're going to face a lot of light hordes or MEQs. Whirlwinds, support platforms and Griffons are great if you enemy is wearing 4+ or less. But those units aren't worth taking if you'll see a great deal of power armour. The meanest MEQ killing pie army is an IWs force with 1 looted basilisk and 3 defilers. Though with the chaos dex around the corner its likely to be toned down quite a bit. A guard army with 3 basilisks is the second nastiest. An entire infantry guard army deep striking supported by 3 indirect bassies is nothing to sneeze at. Lost in the damned can take 3 defilers, but with the chaos dex round the corner it remains to be seen whether they'll still be playable. Eldar are probably the best horde killing indirect with the sheer amount of indirect they can pack into one army. It was mentioned above that guard can max out mortars, but they really aren't very effective despite the 100% range increase they have gotten.

I really think that whirlwinds really are you best option for their very cheap costs and the ability to fight against the many horde armies that can lay down suppressive fire in large amounts (great against Tau, Eldar, IG, Dark Eldar, some nids) For your points you get a lot of bang, and surprisingly they don't do all that bad against MEQs for their points cost.

Of course, the IW have the most crazy Heavy weapons, defilers, looted weapons, and lets not forget, obliterators....yay. But as far as indirect goes IG is the best at it, unfortunately there are much better tanks for the IG that shouldn't be going to basilisks but the other array of tanks.

So this is why I default to whirlwinds.

As triggerbaby pointed out, it is going to be the new DKoK.

Each elite slot can get three heavy mortars each, which I think have stats similar to a stationary griffon.

Then you can get three more basilisks as heavy support, or splurge and get, say, 6 demolishers.