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Episodes 1-2, we learn next to nothing.
Episode 3, the short one where it feels like 2 acts out of a 3 act story. Ends on a cliffhanger.
Episode 4, table setting and a reveal of who the actual bad guy is.
Episode 5, flashback episode that fills in the gaps but doesn't get back to the main story at all.
Episode 6, conclusion with lots of punching.
And when all is said and done it still won't hold a candle to Peacemaker.
In the comics they have now tied Kang the Conqueror's backstory with Konshu far into the past. A young Kang and a female Moon Knight are in love. While I doubt they will use this story specifically (it also involves Apocalypse vs Rama-tut) I doubt it is a coincidence that it comes as both Kang and moon Knight are being introduced to the MCU.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Looks OK but the accent is already annoying me, probably way more than it should. Did Hollywood suddenly run out of British actors?
It'll be interesting to see the angle they go with and how long they leave the "mystery" intact. I can it going either way at the moment with being really slow and plodding or not.
Marc Spector isn't British. One of his multiple personalities thinks he is.
I am pumped for this one! Moon Knight continues to be the series I am most excited for.
It looks like at least one of the bad guys might be the Sun King? Either thats Sun King being worshipped or that guy is some kind of manifestation of Khonshu.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Despite really wanting to, I've never quite clicked with Moon Knight. Can't say the CGI costume has me too hyped for this one, but the insomnia/multiple personality thing feels well done and could easily make for a great show. Expecting to enjoy it, and the MCU shows have proven to not overstay their welcome which is what usually kills a show for me more than anything.
Lance845 wrote: Marc Spector isn't British. One of his multiple personalities thinks he is.
This. If you watch the trailer again there a few parts where you hear him talking and sounding completely different.
I'm with you on this LunarSol. Don't really have a dislike for Moon Knight but never really grabbed me in the comics. Of course that is why there are lots of different stories and characters.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Moon Knight is essentially the Marvel equivalent of Hawkman/Hawkgirl. Characters who have never quite worked so authors keep getting the chance to try and completely reinvent them and nothing works. Now their backstory is such a convoluted mess that its become the meta narrative that gives them their niche.
LunarSol wrote: Moon Knight is essentially the Marvel equivalent of Hawkman/Hawkgirl. Characters who have never quite worked so authors keep getting the chance to try and completely reinvent them and nothing works. Now their backstory is such a convoluted mess that its become the meta narrative that gives them their niche.
Ehhh... thats not exactly true. Hawkman and Hawkgirl have their single destined for love and to die and be separated bit. It's a flat story that doesn't really have anywhere to go. It's why they don't really work. Because what are you going to do with them? Now you can take ONE of them and do something interesting. Hawkgirl in the DCAU Justice league for example, but it leaves the other one high and dry. The 2 characters are just too flat when both present.
But Moonknight is a character with a decent enough comic back story (it's no dumber than a radioactive spider or a deal with the devil).who has just been underutilized for decades. There is no reason you couldn't have a good writer come on and tell a good Moonknight story (and they have) but writers are often just more focused on other characters so he sits on the sidelines. You could say the same for most characters. There are occasional great Ghost Rider stories, but not many or ongoing. Some good Daredevil stories, but how many really stand out?
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The destined lovers thing is exactly what I'm talking about. It was added much later to explain why sometimes they were archeologists, and sometimes they were space cops and sometimes they were.... a bunch of other things that didn't really work.
Moon Knight is similar. He's been reworked several times over with the "he's crazy" angle added later to try and tie it all together. Honestly, the main problem I've seen with the character is just that no one has really worked out the full package with him. He's never had a memorable supporting cast or set of villains. He always ends up as a Batman clone that replaces all of the substance that makes Batman interesting with superficial ultra violence and edge.
I think Moon Knight is going to end up being fairly important down the line for the MCU. There are some important characters coming up that deal with Egypt and specifically, ancient Egypt. Kang and eventually when the X-Men are added, Apocalypse is unavoidable if they are going to do the X-Men any sort of justice.
The MCU is definitely not casting a character for the sake of one series. He is going to be playing a part in whatever stuff they have coming up over the next 10 year big story.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
LunarSol wrote: Moon Knight is essentially the Marvel equivalent of Hawkman/Hawkgirl.
I thought he was Ersatz Batman?
Oh, he's totally a Batman rip off, some of his personalities more than others. I'm only comparing him to the Hawks in the sense that they've both been reinvented to the point where their incoherent backstory is now the gimmick that defines their backstory. Hawks have multiple reincarnations, Moon Knight has multiple personalities. Both are a result of authors never quite finding a status quo for the character that elevates them out of C-listers.
I'm excited, as I've always been a Moon Knight fan, but I hope it doesn't go too far down the road the trailer makes it look like they will, if that makes sense?
Does look pretty interesting - I liked some of the comics.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know very little about Moonknight, with a lot of what I do know coming from this thread.
Wonder if that might improve my experience compared to others more familiar with the source material.
I doubt it matters much. The only consistent thing about Moon Knight is that he's frustratingly inconsistent. I think the people most primed to be disappointed are the ones that think Dracula owes him money.
I think they will end up on Disney+, maybe not yet though. Probably add them during a content drought. I think they want to add some of those characters to the MCU. That might have something to do with it.