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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
If that's the direction the style/sculpting is headed ...

I can't get a feed on where the sculpting is going myself. Just going by the masters we've seen, Raspy is reminiscent of Warmachine (look at that cloak and look at any number of cloaked things in that game, though she does have better proportions than that game), Lady J sorta reminds me of a less extreme Kingdom Death chick, and Marcus has a higher level of detail than either of them ... while Myranda looks pretty standard M2E Wyrd. No idea what their sculptor corral is like these days, I sorta assumed whoever did TOS would be doing these too, judging by the consistency between that product and M3E.

And if it matters, I'm in the hating on this version of Lady J camp. I'm not a Justice fanboy but I've always dug the power lunge + huuuge sword of the M2E plastic, and the alternate plastic is a solid second with that nod to the OG and sweet echo in the Dead Justice sculpt.

- Salvage

My general tone re: consistent feel, is broader gestures and exaggeration: for instance, rasputina (billowing cloak, high-relief detail), snow storm (most apelike exaggerated proportions), lady j (awkwardly "dramatic" pose), myranda (morphing and arms out), etc.

I feel like they're generally much broader, probably in part because the material doesn't support detail as well.

That isn't to say that such characteristic haven't been a part of malifaux in both editions, just that it seems like they're heavily leaning in that direction.

They've been using this very soft detail orange rapid prototype for a while. The final models feel more along the lines of what I'd expect from the rest of M2E stuff, but its worth noting that their models often are far less detailed than people expect from the art, mostly coming down to a lack of texture on surfaces.

The more I look at that Lady J the more it bugs me.

Is she holding a knife or a rapier in her other hand? I know she's always had the gun but to me she's always been synonymous with the sword.

...and what's this about an alternate plastic version?

I thought there was the original, the alternate, the dead version, and the 2E in the crew box. Am I missing one? Was there a vintage one I somehow missed?

Add Avatar Justice to that list for good measure?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
...and what's this about an alternate plastic version?

You know, I really thought they did a throwback plastic version of this sculpt:


(Paint by Dark Templar)

But I guess I was wrong! So I suppose that's my favorite of the myriad Lady J sculpts, in OG metal as it turns out

Also crap, all this talk about Justice has me wanting to run her, and I'm pretty sure I've never wanted to run Guild (*looks at his McCabe and notes he's 10T, thank you very much*)

- Salvage

Lady J is super fun post Broken Promises upgrade fix.

So The Other Side stuff has started to show up at retailers for preorder and Wyrds upcoming page.

And it looks like MSRP has been lowered across the board to match the KS prices.

Good news for those who where interested in the game bu missed the KS. But ouch for backers who got multiple add ons thinking they were getting a discount (the core pledges are still a savings).

As a KSer, I'm more happy than miffed. I like the concept of the game a lot and plan to speedpaint my way through my pledge, but whenever I think about the game's future I struggle seeing where it really thrives in this market. Having a lower MSRP will help, although I can't say if that will be enough to overcome the market's saturation and the barrier to entry for new gamers to army-scale wargames. Neither of my LGS have mentioned stocking TOTS, and one has been burned on MFX twice now, despite their being a decent number of Fauxers in the woodwork, mostly hibernating for 3E (me included).

- Salvage

AverageBoss wrote:
So The Other Side stuff has started to show up at retailers for preorder and Wyrds upcoming page.

And it looks like MSRP has been lowered across the board to match the KS prices.

Good news for those who where interested in the game bu missed the KS. But ouch for backers who got multiple add ons thinking they were getting a discount (the core pledges are still a savings).

They'll just have to cry into their plastic, preassembled models they were going to buy anyway. I'll shed a tear as I paint my minis at my local FLGS who will at least profit from my recent irrational urge to own 4 boxes of Abyssinian Calvary.

Seriously, what is it about those models that makes me want them so bad? I'm even starting to wonder if I could put the Lord of Steel on a horse.

AverageBoss wrote:
And it looks like MSRP has been lowered across the board to match the KS prices.

Good news for those who where interested in the game bu missed the KS. But ouch for backers who got multiple add ons thinking they were getting a discount (the core pledges are still a savings).

Picked up my Gibbering Hordes pledge yesterday, and I'm well pleased overall, everything looks good. Bonus points for a beauty of a rulebook - I think a stretch goal was upgraded hardback? total worth, likewise the upgraded tokens, so so so much better than paper ones - but losing some points for the horrendous Wyrd gaps I'mma have to fill. Not seeing face seams (tm) but the Alpha Crawler and Siren I can't leave as is. Which is what it is, I suppose I was looking forward to straight up not having to build these things at all, as I'm quite burnt on building Wyrd things.

Two other thoughts while unboxing:
1) Holy hell these boxes are big, especially the starter. I'm really struggling seeing my local shops stock this thing just physically, particularly with how hot box-heavy Kill Team is locally.
2) I have some regrets about not adding on extra units, as it looks like I intend to play this game sometime in 2019 and like force variety, but I'm heartened by the MSRP drop. Having things to buy for the game as I paint stuff is a good problem to have, particularly if I didn't miss out on anything by waiting.

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:
And it looks like MSRP has been lowered across the board to match the KS prices.

Good news for those who where interested in the game bu missed the KS. But ouch for backers who got multiple add ons thinking they were getting a discount (the core pledges are still a savings).

Picked up my Gibbering Hordes pledge yesterday, and I'm well pleased overall, everything looks good. Bonus points for a beauty of a rulebook - I think a stretch goal was upgraded hardback? total worth, likewise the upgraded tokens, so so so much better than paper ones - but losing some points for the horrendous Wyrd gaps I'mma have to fill. Not seeing face seams (tm) but the Alpha Crawler and Siren I can't leave as is. Which is what it is, I suppose I was looking forward to straight up not having to build these things at all, as I'm quite burnt on building Wyrd things.

Two other thoughts while unboxing:
1) Holy hell these boxes are big, especially the starter. I'm really struggling seeing my local shops stock this thing just physically, particularly with how hot box-heavy Kill Team is locally.
2) I have some regrets about not adding on extra units, as it looks like I intend to play this game sometime in 2019 and like force variety, but I'm heartened by the MSRP drop. Having things to buy for the game as I paint stuff is a good problem to have, particularly if I didn't miss out on anything by waiting.

For the record, that quote isn't mine.

Chopped up the UBB code wrong, fixed now. High fives to you on going hard on something cool - the Marauder is probably my fav of the Abyssinian crew. Railgun is hella cool too, for obvious reasons.

So are there any quickstart rules or anything in the starter boxes?

I couldn't resist grabbing a Gibbering Hordes starter since if I got it today it was free shipping, ebay bucks back, and 15 percent off.

Worst case I have more Deep Wars monsters and homebrew battles if I can't talk Barzam into picking up Abyssinia.

Although Cult of the Burning Man is really calling to me with their crazy sculpts. I'm sure I can get a lot of mileage out of their brand of craziness...

...and now I seem to have ended up with a box of ECB Black Ops just because....

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So are there any quickstart rules or anything in the starter boxes?

Not sure what's in the starter boxes, but if you want the rules, they're kind of hidden on the site, but right here:

https://www.wyrd-games.net/the-other-side-rules

Saw this at my local hobby store. Malifaux never drew me in faction wise but Abyssinia and Gibbering Hordes have my interest.

Can someone point me to where I can see/buy the Other Side stuff?

Really interested in a lot of it as potential proxies, but I'm not quote sure yet!

Thanks!

https://www.wyrd-games.net/the-other-side

If you click on the faction buttons in the middle, there's a set of model renders at the bottom.

Stuff has started showing up at Miniature Market. I'm not exactly sure how much or anything, but you can buy it there and I assume some other places like the WarStore.

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Malifaux is complex?

Quite possibly. There's a lot of fiddly gradients of similar effects/abilities that produce different interactions, which can be cut down. There's also an absurd number of units to balance around at this point. Neverborn alone has like 70+ models, plus other out of faction hires, etc. That's a ton of interactions to account for and future proof when designing.

Given how you can tailor your list to the available schemes/strats, it also gives a big advantage to those who own them all, and makes new players feel like they have to know everything to compete. It sounds like they're taking a page from Warmachine and going more towards theme groups to remove some option paralysis. I'm cool w Illuminated no longer being the de-facto sole Neverborn beater, or Rotten Belles in basically every Resser list.

Exactly. I'm hoping for a more elegant system in this new edition. We haven't played for years, it just became such a head ache. Crossing our fingers they find a balance with it all.

 LunarSol wrote:
https://www.wyrd-games.net/the-other-side

If you click on the faction buttons in the middle, there's a set of model renders at the bottom.

Stuff has started showing up at Miniature Market. I'm not exactly sure how much or anything, but you can buy it there and I assume some other places like the WarStore.

Yeah, I should have checked those places first - sorry!

A bit annoying to see that Wyrd is continuing with their 'render only!' way of showing things.

And...the prices - even after they've been adjusted I guess? - are still pretty off-putting.

Especially with out being able to see real, actual models.

Anyone else who got there pledges having problems with bendy model syndrome, no matter what i do to the horses for the abysinia calvary they keep drooping. Also i can’t get the Riders guns and spears to stay straight.

spartan059 wrote:
Anyone else who got there pledges having problems with bendy model syndrome, no matter what i do to the horses for the abysinia calvary they keep drooping. Also i can’t get the Riders guns and spears to stay straight.

Hot water shock seemed to fix all of mine

I’ve tried that, and it works for a few hours, but in the morning they are back to the same droopy bent poses that they were in before

I snagged one of the few reasonably priced Gibbering Hordes starters off eBay when they were going crazy with all those percentage off sales.

Photos can be supplied. What do you want to see them compared to?

Ah, thank you!

I'm thinking about using them as proxies for all the unreleasaed Brood stuff for Dark Age, so if you've anything for that game, it would be great.

If not, go standard and with a space marine!

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Malifaux is complex?

Quite possibly. There's a lot of fiddly gradients of similar effects/abilities that produce different interactions, which can be cut down. There's also an absurd number of units to balance around at this point. Neverborn alone has like 70+ models, plus other out of faction hires, etc. That's a ton of interactions to account for and future proof when designing.

Given how you can tailor your list to the available schemes/strats, it also gives a big advantage to those who own them all, and makes new players feel like they have to know everything to compete. It sounds like they're taking a page from Warmachine and going more towards theme groups to remove some option paralysis. I'm cool w Illuminated no longer being the de-facto sole Neverborn beater, or Rotten Belles in basically every Resser list.

Exactly. I'm hoping for a more elegant system in this new edition. We haven't played for years, it just became such a head ache. Crossing our fingers they find a balance with it all.

+1

Loved the system and a lot of the interactions; sheer complexity and some poor internal faction balance have meant I haven't played in a while. 100% back on board if they manage to simplify and balance things well; probably will stay a very occasional game if they don't, and probably my group will play the occasional 2e rather than try to keep up with current editions.

As promised...

The Storm Risen and one Karkanoi and Skulker



I think all of the Karkanoi sculpts, that I forgot to put on bases...



This time with the Striped Skulkers...


Not the greatest photos as my wife wanted to head to the gym.

Getting back on topic, I'm really hoping 3E is as steamlined as they say. I tried explaining it to family and it just went over their heads. At least they get rolling dice and trying to roll higher than a 4.
I really enjoy the models and fluff. It would be nice to enjoy the game once in a while as well...

Thank you very much for the pictures - I think the GH stuff will work quite well for what I'm wanting!

I’m also hoping for less rules volume. I loved the first edition sculpts but we found the game impossible to play casually. You seemed to either really commit to Malifaux or not play it, and that coupled with generally less interesting sculpts as they went plastic meant our group just stopped trying.

Don't follow Wyrd stuff enough to know if this is interesting, but Bundle of Holding is doing a couple collections of Through the Breach pdfs.
https://bundleofholding.com/presents/Breach2018
https://bundleofholding.com/presents/SecondBreach

The M3E open beta is starting next week.

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