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 filbert wrote:
 OPULENCE wrote:
I finally picked some up and I am happy with what they can do - Guilliman flesh is particularly fantastic. I bought them from my local GW and the staffer told me it was their best June sales ever as the new paint range had outsold the 8th edition launch in 2017.


I can well believe it. Element Games has just emailed me to inform me the outstanding part of my order (I ordered the Contrast paints bundle) is delayed again. This includes the white, black and a couple of blues. It seems they are fabulously popular right now.


edit: Should be clear, I am in no way having a go at Element Games - they are consistently superb whenever I use them but it just goes to show, if they are having trouble stocking the most popular colours, it gives you some indication of demand right now - unless GW are deliberately restricting supply to inflate demand a la Nintendo but that seems a wee bit tinfoil hat to be true.


Not restricting supply in general to create scarcity, but I am convinced at this point that they're actively screwing with Element and Wayland. If you want new releases on time, try Firestorm Games - they had 100+ of every bottle except the Black on release day.

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Alot of Indies are getting short changed by GW supply chain, they can't produce stuff fast enough, they need to take the foot off the gas a bit.
   
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 Da Boss wrote:
To be clear, I probably would not make them myself either but was saying that the cost of the basic contrast paints was a bit high. I did not think that was controversial!

I don't think it is either. They certainly ain't cheap, usefulness notwithstanding.

Then again, that could be GW's motto.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
 Da Boss wrote:
To be clear, I probably would not make them myself either but was saying that the cost of the basic contrast paints was a bit high. I did not think that was controversial!

I don't think it is either. They certainly ain't cheap, usefulness notwithstanding.

Then again, that could be GW's motto.


I think by it got such a response is because early in the thread lots of painters claimed the same and fell very short on the delivery. People have polarized on which side they are on and are still very feisty about their beliefs.

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Obispudkenobi wrote:
Alot of Indies are getting short changed by GW supply chain, they can't produce stuff fast enough, they need to take the foot off the gas a bit.


My flgs had all the colours on release including the ones GW said were late, I know because I bought £150 worth , I know they had a few large orders and still had full racks, this included both sprays and the undercoat pots.

I think you are right about Element, many new releases like gloomspite have sold out very very quickly compared to other retailers at the same price. Could be a cash flow issue ? They seem to have poor availability and I often end up ordering elsewhere to get everything in one go. I also don't go to them for preorders now as too often they sell out, and my other three options don't sell out as fast.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 filbert wrote:
 OPULENCE wrote:
I finally picked some up and I am happy with what they can do - Guilliman flesh is particularly fantastic. I bought them from my local GW and the staffer told me it was their best June sales ever as the new paint range had outsold the 8th edition launch in 2017.


I can well believe it. Element Games has just emailed me to inform me the outstanding part of my order (I ordered the Contrast paints bundle) is delayed again. This includes the white, black and a couple of blues. It seems they are fabulously popular right now.


edit: Should be clear, I am in no way having a go at Element Games - they are consistently superb whenever I use them but it just goes to show, if they are having trouble stocking the most popular colours, it gives you some indication of demand right now - unless GW are deliberately restricting supply to inflate demand a la Nintendo but that seems a wee bit tinfoil hat to be true.


Not restricting supply in general to create scarcity, but I am convinced at this point that they're actively screwing with Element and Wayland. If you want new releases on time, try Firestorm Games - they had 100+ of every bottle except the Black on release day.


It might also be that Element and Wayland simply have bigger customer bases and thus whilst they get a similar allocation of stock, they burn through it so much faster.
Also from what I can tell everyone, including Firestorm, are out of stock on the black. Honestly this is simply because everyone is buying contrast paint, once the mania eases off I'm sure the stocks will replenish at a more sane rate, with GW likely able to shift production so that less popular colours are made less and more popular ones made more. Chances are some of the colours will eventually steady out to low demand whilst ones like black and white will remain constantly strong in demand, just within GW's manufacture and supply range.

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 Albertorius wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 oni wrote:
Are there any Contrast videos of a Cadian guardsman? I've been looking, but cannot find one in the traditional Cadian color scheme.

I have an AM army all still in boxes and I'm thinking that I could crank them out quickly as they would be quick and easy with Contrast paint.

I don't think there's a video, but the way to go(from my experience playing around with the paints) would be:
-Wraithbone basecoat
-Militarum Green armor
-Aggaros Dune for the fatigues


That looks like this:

Spoiler:


(except for not being a traitor and all )


I appreciate the recipe and the picture. Did you by chance try Skeleton Horde for the battle fatigues on any of your models?
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Isn't it?

"Here, I have made my own version, it's functionally similar, and all you need to do is drop a couple of hundred quid in one go on various acrylic inks and additives and then spend hours experimenting and colour mixing."

This guy's method is great if you already have the materials, or were already planning to buy the materials, or if you genuinely enjoy experimenting and messing about with paints.

If your objective is to paint some models, I'd say ~4 quid a pot from a discounter is, if not a fair price, then at least a tolerable one given what you're getting.


Watching that guy's video, all I could think of was Les Bursley's Magic Wash. Which is much the same thing, only posted here on Dakka back in 2009.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/261541.page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkMnP6p08I

Not that there's anything wrong with someone who was unaware of a previous version of the exact same thing figuring it out independantly. It's not complete sorcery, after all...

   
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 oni wrote:

I appreciate the recipe and the picture. Did you by chance try Skeleton Horde for the battle fatigues on any of your models?

Afraid not, sorry.
   
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I told element games to dispatch mine once they had everything in stock. My account says expected tomorrow. I'm highly doubtful though!

It allowed me time to finish my current painting project - now I'm building some warhammer conquest subs.

I'm hoping it gets here within 1-2 weeks though as I'll be absolutely ready to move on to painting again soon
   
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Gerinako wrote:
I told element games to dispatch mine once they had everything in stock. My account says expected tomorrow. I'm highly doubtful though!

It allowed me time to finish my current painting project - now I'm building some warhammer conquest subs.

I'm hoping it gets here within 1-2 weeks though as I'll be absolutely ready to move on to painting again soon


I wouldn’t be that optimist with Element games as preorders made on the first day are still outstanding. I’m still waiting for my final contrast paint from them after ordering the entire collection 2 minutes after it went up on preorder day (I actually made the effort to order whilst running a marathon as knew demand would be high). Not had any email updates since around the initial release date but did receive all my paints except black about 3 weeks after I ordered. Thankfully I managed to pick up a black elsewhere as was required for more or less everything I wanted to try Contrast on.

Element Games stock expected date seems to be a bit wonky recently. One of my other orders is about a month old with expected delivery date of three weeks ago.

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I would love to know how Guilliman and Darkoath flesh is selling compared to everything else in the line, they're godsends imho.
   
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On pre-release morning, I added all the colours I wanted to my GW webstore cart, except 1 which was out of stock already.
I have since managed to add that 1, but the cart showed others out of stock.
There's only 11 items in that basket.
I have checked twice each day since then, and so far, there hasn't been a day when the entire basket has been in stock.

I wanted all the colours for a project, so I'm not buying a few and missing one or two out.

I think I'll just use normal paints and forget this expensive experiment. At least with base coats and a painted coat of dip I get the same effect and don't have to worry about going over the areas I'm painting as normal paint will allow me to make corrections that contrast won't without rebase coating sections.

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You're honestly just better off going to a local store at this point.

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Aeneades wrote:
Gerinako wrote:
I told element games to dispatch mine once they had everything in stock. My account says expected tomorrow. I'm highly doubtful though!

It allowed me time to finish my current painting project - now I'm building some warhammer conquest subs.

I'm hoping it gets here within 1-2 weeks though as I'll be absolutely ready to move on to painting again soon


I wouldn’t be that optimist with Element games as preorders made on the first day are still outstanding. I’m still waiting for my final contrast paint from them after ordering the entire collection 2 minutes after it went up on preorder day (I actually made the effort to order whilst running a marathon as knew demand would be high). Not had any email updates since around the initial release date but did receive all my paints except black about 3 weeks after I ordered. Thankfully I managed to pick up a black elsewhere as was required for more or less everything I wanted to try Contrast on.

Element Games stock expected date seems to be a bit wonky recently. One of my other orders is about a month old with expected delivery date of three weeks ago.


Thanks for the heads up - just mailed them to dispatch to me whatever they've got.

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 Azazelx wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Isn't it?

"Here, I have made my own version, it's functionally similar, and all you need to do is drop a couple of hundred quid in one go on various acrylic inks and additives and then spend hours experimenting and colour mixing."

This guy's method is great if you already have the materials, or were already planning to buy the materials, or if you genuinely enjoy experimenting and messing about with paints.

If your objective is to paint some models, I'd say ~4 quid a pot from a discounter is, if not a fair price, then at least a tolerable one given what you're getting.


Watching that guy's video, all I could think of was Les Bursley's Magic Wash. Which is much the same thing, only posted here on Dakka back in 2009.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/261541.page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkMnP6p08I

Not that there's anything wrong with someone who was unaware of a previous version of the exact same thing figuring it out independantly. It's not complete sorcery, after all...


Yeah, I've been using Les Bursley's recipes pretty much since I read them here when I started, and have referenced them here many times. I've found the washes I've made with those recipes are good, but not as good as commercial products. They are, however, very cheap. I don't know where "a couple of hundred quid" came from, lol - I think I spent about $30 or $40 tops and still have enough to make tons of wash a decade later. All I ever have to reload is the matte medium - the inks and flow aid go a long way.


Where those really shine are when you are using a lot of wash - specifically basing and terrain, or really large models. I still use Army Painter and GWS washes for minis, I don't think they can be beat, but when I have to wash Godzilla or a game board or game mat, I'm not using 2 or 3 whole bottles of commercial wash to do it when I can mix up a batch of "almost as good" for about 20 cents in materials I already have on hand. Another tool in the arsenal, not a replacement.

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Yeah. I use a lot of commercial washes, but when I need a non-standard colour, or a lot of wash for a large model, or anything like that - off to my pre-mixed dropper bottles of medium that are waiting to be loaded with inks.

It's just the excitement about that dude's video made me chuckle, since he's using much the same formula that Les posted here (of all places) a decade ago...

   
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Black Templar, Contrast Medium, Magos Purple, Apothecary White, Volopus Pink, Ultramarines Blue, Cygor Brown, and Talassar Blue

These are the ones that have caused a delay in my order. Rest dispatched

Funnily enough 4 of those I'm keen to try out
I can experiment with the colours I'm not bothered about though to ensure I get contrast flow right though so not the end of the world.

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I'm waiting on white and aethermatic blue.. I think?

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm waiting on white and aethermatic blue.. I think?


The White isn’t excellent, I tried something new this morning with my rustoleum 2x white primer, a wash of agrax, a wash of Nuln oil and then apothecary white over the top to get my Orc bosses animal hide shoulder pad. I know it’s not the best, but well above my usual level of painting.


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Strangely, I find Apothecary White to work worse with tons of texture vs flatter surfaces. I painted a fire warrior and a yeti, and I couldn’t get the yeti to look good.
   
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'Appens I did a spot of opportune Lootin' whilst I was Worthing. I've got three bottles of Apothecary White looking for a home.

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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
You're honestly just better off going to a local store at this point.


If only I still had one. It shut down.
I could catch an hour long bus ride to the nearest one, and an hour back, and wait for buses. And take a day as annual leave as that GW shuts on my days off work.
So, lose a day of my hols, pay £10 in bus fairs and 2+ hours travel?
There's a reason some of us in the UK still use the GW webstore - just a shame it's always out of stock and GW customer service suggest going to a local store. Meh.

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Keep trying the smaller online retailers, that’s how I grabbed my black when every large online store and GW were sold out.
   
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I was at Warhammer World on release day, got there in the morning but they had all sold out of the Black and the contrast medium that I wanted but got the last white and magos purple. Not used them yet as I need the black and medium.
   
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Finally tried it out last night and its not bad at all.

10 kalabites coated in Akhelian Green and looking decent after drying over night( probably dried out within an hour, but I wasn't timing it ). Could do more on them but will just clean up the bases with black and will probably start gaming with them as is. Might paint the shoulder pads and flesh when I get time, but yeah its good.

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 Gimgamgoo wrote:
 Tyranid Horde wrote:
You're honestly just better off going to a local store at this point.


If only I still had one. It shut down.
I could catch an hour long bus ride to the nearest one, and an hour back, and wait for buses. And take a day as annual leave as that GW shuts on my days off work.
So, lose a day of my hols, pay £10 in bus fairs and 2+ hours travel?
There's a reason some of us in the UK still use the GW webstore - just a shame it's always out of stock and GW customer service suggest going to a local store. Meh.


Forget everything else, a return bus ticket is £10!?
   
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Danny76 wrote:
 Gimgamgoo wrote:
 Tyranid Horde wrote:
You're honestly just better off going to a local store at this point.


If only I still had one. It shut down.
I could catch an hour long bus ride to the nearest one, and an hour back, and wait for buses. And take a day as annual leave as that GW shuts on my days off work.
So, lose a day of my hols, pay £10 in bus fairs and 2+ hours travel?
There's a reason some of us in the UK still use the GW webstore - just a shame it's always out of stock and GW customer service suggest going to a local store. Meh.


Forget everything else, a return bus ticket is £10!?


Welcome to the UK - outside of major urban areas like London the cost of public transport isn't that attractive. An hour long train trip return for me last I took a trip was £14 and they've had several price rises since then and now its up to £16.60. And that's off-peak, peak hours its £19.40 That's a nice chunk of cash and honestly takes longer than if one took a car to travel to the same destination.

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Danny76 wrote:
 Gimgamgoo wrote:
 Tyranid Horde wrote:
You're honestly just better off going to a local store at this point.


If only I still had one. It shut down.
I could catch an hour long bus ride to the nearest one, and an hour back, and wait for buses. And take a day as annual leave as that GW shuts on my days off work.
So, lose a day of my hols, pay £10 in bus fairs and 2+ hours travel?
There's a reason some of us in the UK still use the GW webstore - just a shame it's always out of stock and GW customer service suggest going to a local store. Meh.


Forget everything else, a return bus ticket is £10!?

Rural bus companies like to gouge their vict… er, customers but hard. Apparently it’s a problem of “low use” or something.
Londoners get too used to buses being £1.50/hr or capped to £3.50/day.

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First GW regular painting video using Contrast extensively. Pretty interesting, he highlights all the contrast areas, often with Wraithbone.

https://youtu.be/Mtpg2U1qts0
   
 
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