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Need to see the whole crew boxes. Masters and totems tend to just stand around across the range.

Oh no. Are they using the gummy plastic that CMON and TOS use?

 Absolutionis wrote:
Oh no. Are they using the gummy plastic that CMON and TOS use?

I don't believe so. I think this was asked on their forums recently and they said that stuff is just for TOS.

I thought it was the same stuff? They're prebuilt, either way, which is enough, with an edition change and some crew restrictions that wrecked my collection, that I expect I unfortunately won't be keeping up with 3e. I certainly could handle uninspired sculpts, am willing to bite the bullet and buy updates, and if the game were stellar I'd be tempted to play even if it disrupted my collection, but the 3-pronged assault on my fun has me pretty deflated.

Has it been confirmed that it's prebuilt? If so, that's a shame.


I'll probably still buy that ten thunders guy.

They've said multiple times you still are going to be building your actual Malifaux stuff.

Only the other side stuff is prebuilt... so far.

Personally I'm liking the new designs, but I'm always on the lookout for weird west steapunk victorian era models.

Oh, really? I must have misunderstood, or maybe I just assumed: I have no idea why they've so radically shifted their design style if they're not adjusting to a new material?

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Oh, really? I must have misunderstood, or maybe I just assumed: I have no idea why they've so radically shifted their design style if they're not adjusting to a new material?

New artist who came in with book 5 of 2E. It's important to remember the art in books is basically concept art for sculpts, but quite frankly they're awful IMO. The previous artist moved over to primarily doing TOS and that art looks brilliant and in line with everything that came before, the new stuff is sort of a samey caricature of previous art with an overemphasis on "larger" people for what seems to be just meme value (and without any thought to their actual roles, like Benny Wolcomb). The worst example is Gremlins, they're almost an entirely different species in how they're represented by each artist

The style is a little different, but not wildly so. M2E is pretty loaded with static models as well particularly the master sculpts. There seems to be some more dynamic options in the boxes as a whole from what I've seen.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I guess the other pertinent question is whether they're still being made by WGF,

as the other reason for a design change is a factory shift with the new lot being less experienced and so less able to handle 'dynamic' stuff & thin and spindly things

The three new masters available (two or three copies each day) at Adepticon had "Made in Tailand" stamped on the sprue, instead of the old "Main in China" stamps. Still hard plastic sprues.

I don't know that a change in factory explains the difference in sculpts, I think it's more likely just artistic decisions, for better or for worse.

Has anyone heard word (or Wyrd - ha!) when M3E will be officially released?

 .Mikes. wrote:
Has anyone heard word (or Wyrd - ha!) when M3E will be officially released?

Summer. GenCon follows there usual pattern, but there's a sense from the way they're talking that they want to do a digital launch sooner.

Quick comment. Wyrd has long had times where they take on too much and cut corners on sculpting. Last time I really remember this was when they were frantically trying to redo everything in sprue plastic for M2E book 2. If you look at things like Guild Sergeants from that era you see a lot of copy pasted assess with head swaps and the like. Given they appear to be redoing several crew boxes for the M3E launch, I'm not totally surprised to see some less... bespoke... looking stuff on the new guys. Even then, these guys don't seem bad; they're just not as memorable as some of Wyrd's best.

Wyrd's masters in M2E generally sucked. As noted, too much copy/paste faces that lacked any personality and a generally bland art direction. Plus weird limb proportions where it looked like lots of them were 70-80% legs. Maybe going through the breach stretches them out like a taffy puller...

Art seems a bit better this edition. The fur on Rasputina's cloak looks a little weird on the renders, but at least a frostmage type character isn't blandly standing around huddled in a parka...

Easter sale starts this Sunday the 14th through the 22nd of April.

Bunch of alt and limited edition models as always, but the batch this year are all going to include M3E cards with them as well.

This year's new model is a Stitched Together set of alts-

https://www.wyrd-games.net/news/2019/4/29/wyrd-retailer-newsletter-launch-plans

M3E Launches June 28th



Also tons of other information.

* Current products on the shelf do not need to be replaced. Stores will be given stickers to put on boxes they have M3E cards for, and customers will be able to just pick up the M3E cards in addition to the current M2E product.

* Faction Packs of cards will be available for all M3E cards for current tournament-legal models. This probably excludes "Dead Man's Hand".

* Eight books will be released. One Core Rulebook and seven Faction books full of lore and rules.

* SKUs being cut from 337 to 186. Many items being consolidated into new product boxes of old models. Products will have keywords on them so you can tell at a glance which Master each model is associated with.

* Some new consolidated boxes will have new models in addition to old models. For one year after launch, you can special order specific models!

* June/July/August/Sepetember releases with which boxes will contain new models.

* New Faction mentioned. No details yet. Teases that the Core Rulebook will contain info.

- It has been mentioned in the past (not this article) that the new Faction will contain Basse (Guild) and McCabe (10T).

Good to hear about the special orders. Now I can get an Agent 46 for my Lucuis crew without having to buy a whole new box.

Ambitious and smart relaunch. My local crew have already started harassing me about scheduling a release day throwdown

That's a solid relaunch plan,

Hopefully it goes well for them

The beta has exploded popularity here and just needed convenient packaging to really take off. This is pretty much perfect.

The individual model availability is nice. Still feel pretty burnt by the number of cross-faction crews, masters, and master-keyworded models that have been removed, though. Of my 4 main crews only one wasn't hit hard, and it was my least-played.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The individual model availability is nice. Still feel pretty burnt by the number of cross-faction crews, masters, and master-keyworded models that have been removed, though. Of my 4 main crews only one wasn't hit hard, and it was my least-played.

I understand that, but I'm glad Wyrd are willing to do that to move the story forward. It would suck if you own those masters, though.

Anyone want to start guessing what the new faction may be / look / play like?

I'm thinking some kind of secret society around the titians.

I wonder if there's any link to the new faction with some of the stuff from the Other Side?

There's preview art in the back of the book of things that weren't even mentioned yet as well- The Kimon, Three Kingdoms, The Court of Two...I know some of those have ties to actual Malifaux factions already though.

It looks well organized. A good sign.

So, if one has all the minis needed, all one will need to get is the M3e rules book and the right faction deck? And both will be available in PDF form for free? Good. I have the M1e and M2e main books, but have no interest in buying the BRB yet again. I'm not that interested in the storyline anymore.

Maybe I can get some of my group playing again. They faded out after the Rising Powers book way back in M1e days.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I wonder if there's any link to the new faction with some of the stuff from the Other Side?

There's preview art in the back of the book of things that weren't even mentioned yet as well- The Kimon, Three Kingdoms, The Court of Two...I know some of those have ties to actual Malifaux factions already though.

All 3 of those, plus Guild, are confirmed to be the next book's worth of The Other Side factions. Wyrd are going wide and not deep with TOS, so each current faction is more-or-less done and future expansion will be new factions entirely (see also the heavy mentions of Ottomans and Russians in the fluff). It's highly likely given the faction symbol (crossed guns and a compass, seen on the pre-release Basse cards) that the new M3E faction has some tie to the Malifaux Exploration League mentioned in the Through The Breach background IMO. Basically a group of aristocrats that got bored of exploring on Earth (been there, done that type of thing) and so move to Malifaux to find new danger and excitement, funding expeditions into the wilds. Given we have a treasure hunter and a frontiersman as the 2 masters we know of, it's not unlikely.

Also worth remembering that that treasure hunter IS an aristocrat.

 Rygnan wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I wonder if there's any link to the new faction with some of the stuff from the Other Side?

There's preview art in the back of the book of things that weren't even mentioned yet as well- The Kimon, Three Kingdoms, The Court of Two...I know some of those have ties to actual Malifaux factions already though.

All 3 of those, plus Guild, are confirmed to be the next book's worth of The Other Side factions. Wyrd are going wide and not deep with TOS, so each current faction is more-or-less done and future expansion will be new factions entirely (see also the heavy mentions of Ottomans and Russians in the fluff). It's highly likely given the faction symbol (crossed guns and a compass, seen on the pre-release Basse cards) that the new M3E faction has some tie to the Malifaux Exploration League mentioned in the Through The Breach background IMO. Basically a group of aristocrats that got bored of exploring on Earth (been there, done that type of thing) and so move to Malifaux to find new danger and excitement, funding expeditions into the wilds. Given we have a treasure hunter and a frontiersman as the 2 masters we know of, it's not unlikely.

That would be pretty cool. The Ash and Oak club for Wolsung was one of my favourites. Might even proxy some of their models if this is the case and they fit.

The Outpost just put up preorders for the new crew boxes and as a collector (and one day, player of Malifaux) I was going to pick them up but they are noticeably more expensive than the equivalent M2E crews.. about £8 more.

Have the contents of the M3E crew boxes been announced yet, either in terms of miniatures or accessories (rule sheet, cards, tokens etc) that might explain this, or is it just a case of Things Are More Expensive in 2019?

The upcoming new releases and their prices are listed at the bottom of that Wyrd Games newsletter. It seems that all the Matser boxes are either $50 or $45 which is in line with the Malifaux boxes in the past.

It seems that basically all the old Master boxes that were originally $45 are being upped to $50 with most of the boxes remaining at $50. It may be important to note that $45 Master Boxes were rather uncommon. Some, like Jady Justice, can be justified as having new models. Youko's Master Box, however, is launching at $45.

Prices in USD, of course. I'm surprised your retailer is selling them for 8 GBP more considering Wyrd's site is listing them as basically remaining the same in USD prices.

Which crews specifically? I assume it’s just standardizing pricing for the crew boxes. $50 crew boxes have been pretty standard for a while now.

I agree with the standardizing of prices. Lady Justice, Kaeris, Pandora, and others are still being listed as being MSRP $45 on various sites.

Just the weird thing is Youko's box launching at $45.