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2021/12/11 17:59:24
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Yep, I think I'm going to have to buy a new Imperial Fist in the none too distant future.
Albertorius wrote:Imp Fist guy is gorgeous as usual.
Darn lemons, always getting the best stuff <pouts in IW>
Serves you right for choosing the objectively wrongest legion.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2021/12/11 19:11:10
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Geifer wrote:Yep, I think I'm going to have to buy a new Imperial Fist in the none too distant future.
Albertorius wrote:Imp Fist guy is gorgeous as usual.
Darn lemons, always getting the best stuff <pouts in IW>
Serves you right for choosing the objectively wrongest legion.
Slanders and lies, you all just like to punch down!
(seriously though, I usually go loyal IW for extra pathos xD)
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2021/12/11 19:56:26
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Yay, kinda cool. IW Salamanders and RG are over in the corner with zero marine characters. (No, models ported from 40K and limited release IW characters don't count)
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2021/12/11 20:27:00
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Iron Warriors, Salamanders, Raven Guard, and Dark Angels actually. But considering all of the Legions are now done and what's been happening with the recent releases, I'm sure they'll get models when the new Edition drops.
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2021/12/11 20:31:15
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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The Imperial Fist is quite nice but as a BA player I'm not enthusiastic about that one. While I wholeheartedly embrace hamming it up with the Space (Were)Wolves with my conversions, I just can't do it with the Blood Angels and vampires beyond the excellent Mephiston fig based on the 2e art.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2021/12/11 20:38:44
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Don't play either legion, but it may be fun to pick them up and use them as death watch models.
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2021/12/11 20:58:04
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Would have much preferred 1x loyalist and 1x traitor, but very pleased to see Zephon regardless.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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2021/12/11 21:25:28
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Now that I notice... does the BA guy has three bionic extremities? Heh
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2021/12/11 21:33:54
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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He lost them fighting something nasty, and his body rejected his original bionics so he was 'left behind' on Terra (as part of the Crusader Host). Arkhan Land 'found' him, fixed his bionics (using DAoT tech) and they fought in the Webway War.
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2021/12/11 21:34:27
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I'm not a fan of either of the models personally. Rann suffers from that modified armour thing where they just don't look right... Never mind the huge cables going directly from his breastplate to his pauldron. The blood angel looks ok but it's more leaping off rocks which I find a bit meh, and it looks a tad strange anyway with the bionic foot and the double handed sword grip...
Paint jobs are lacklustre. They might look better when I see pro paint jobs on insta.
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Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children
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2021/12/12 03:15:03
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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I'm just happy that they're plastic.
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2021/12/12 05:37:36
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Sacredroach wrote:Pity I don't play either of those armies...Dominion is excellent, and Fafnir is possibly the nicest GW/ FW figure I've seen in a while
Still...as solid art those are hard to beat.
Damn rights about Fafnir Rann, I first heard about him in a audio drama where they assault the comet shrine of Unity. I liked him there and I love this figure. The Imperial Fists have some of the nicest work that FW has done.
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2021/12/12 12:24:19
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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They are? I assumed that, as any other FW release, they were FW resin.
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2021/12/12 12:50:54
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/12/12 12:51:21
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2021/12/12 12:56:16
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Its a GW release, not FW, ergo plastic not resin. Also its like the thumbnail for the video, it's said in every single post thats been made about the models on GW social media and on WarCom.
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2021/12/12 13:19:19
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Why make a miniature of a book character if you're not gonna base it on how the character looked in the book?
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/12/12 14:26:09
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
Anor Londo
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I was wondering why the detail of the faces didn't seem as sharp as other Forge World minis, the fact that they are plastic would explain this I guess. I'd like to see unpainted versions before reaching a final conclusion though.
I mean, they are nowhere near the quality of Captain Korvydae for example:
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2021/12/12 14:28:51
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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GW's plastic has come a long way and their new way of doing cuts and slices for parting means that they can achieve poses that were once impossible.
However resin still holds the edge in fine detail which you will notice on things like faces.
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2021/12/12 14:57:48
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
Anor Londo
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Yes, that's the exact point that I was making
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2021/12/12 16:17:27
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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2021/12/12 16:18:02
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Undead_Love-Machine wrote:I was wondering why the detail of the faces didn't seem as sharp as other Forge World minis, the fact that they are plastic would explain this I guess. I'd like to see unpainted versions before reaching a final conclusion though. I mean, they are nowhere near the quality of Captain Korvydae for example: They prioritized the position of the parts in the mold for maximum fang sharpness because vampire? I agree though about Korvydae. Of the classic FW figs of older editions, he's one of my favorites along with Inquisitor Rex.
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2021/12/12 20:55:26
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Why make a miniature of a book character if you're not gonna base it on how the character looked in the book?
Was one of your complaints literally that someone painted the model's hair the wrong color?
J.F.C...
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2021/12/12 21:06:50
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Mhm yes, ignore all the actual arguments backed with citations to cherrypick the one you can attack most easily. Very mature.
Not to mention that still means the painter wasn't told who he was painting.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/12/12 21:11:20
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I'm going to dig out Master of Mankind and give it a re-read, but didn't he get new armour when Land replaced out his bionics (and if he was in MkIII he wouldn't have a jump pack?)? MeanGreenStompa wrote:Was one of your complaints literally that someone painted the model's hair the wrong color?
Hair dye is a thing - just ask Ragnar Blackmane...
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2021/12/12 21:40:05
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Mhm yes, ignore all the actual arguments backed with citations to cherrypick the one you can attack most easily. Very mature.
Not to mention that still means the painter wasn't told who he was painting.
The whingy picture you posted included complaining that a miniature's hair was painted the wrong color as a critique of the miniature... don't call me out on maturity if that's the standard your citing as criticism of what you find offensive about the mini.
It's a good sculpt, they're both good models. GW have released some stinkers in their time, neither of these is in that category and the straw grasping in that picture you posted is as painful as it is pedantic. The idea that a marine's armour, any marine's armour, during the civil war of the Heresy or indeed just during the Siege specifically, would have remained static, is so flawed, so utterly against every single book FW released showing illustration of the patchworking that occurred during warfare, that it's like you slept through all of it. I mean MkV is literally a patchwork ad hoc creation during the conflict, Artificer is a total random, visually and the character in question is torn apart and rebuilt using a variety of bionics on more than one occasion.
If, at the end of the day, this really nicely posed, well designed and well sculpted mini doesn't meet your (somewhat pedantic) need to reflect one authors description in one book, kitbash your own...
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2021/12/12 21:42:54
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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MeanGreenStompa wrote: Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Mhm yes, ignore all the actual arguments backed with citations to cherrypick the one you can attack most easily. Very mature.
Not to mention that still means the painter wasn't told who he was painting.
The whingy picture you posted included complaining that a miniature's hair was painted the wrong color as a critique of the miniature... don't call me out on maturity if that's the standard your citing as criticism of what you find offensive about the mini.
It's a good sculpt, they're both good models. GW have released some stinkers in their time, neither of these is in that category and the straw grasping in that picture you posted is as painful as it is pedantic. The idea that a marine's armour, any marine's armour, during the civil war of the Heresy or indeed just during the Siege specifically, would have remained static, is so flawed, so utterly against every single book FW released showing illustration of the patchworking that occurred during warfare, that it's like you slept through all of it. I mean MkV is literally a patchwork ad hoc creation during the conflict, Artificer is a total random, visually and the character in question is torn apart and rebuilt using a variety of bionics on more than one occasion.
If, at the end of the day, this really nicely posed, well designed and well sculpted mini doesn't meet your (somewhat pedantic) need to reflect one authors description in one book, kitbash your own...
It's literally a miniature of a guy that shows up in a book.
I don't see why expecting it to look as he was described in a book is somehow not the bare minimum.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/12/12 22:02:13
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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It's a legitimate issue to raise for the official painted promo pic of the model. No one cares what color you or I paint our space vampires eternal flowing locks nor if we swap out the helmet for a different one via a conversion but it's less than ideal to have the official sculpt and paint job of the model not match ostensibly the literal genesis for it.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2021/12/12 22:12:07
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Araqiel
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:The whingy picture you posted included complaining that a miniature's hair was painted the wrong color as a critique of the miniature... don't call me out on maturity if that's the standard your citing as criticism of what you find offensive about the mini.
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If, at the end of the day, this really nicely posed, well designed and well sculpted mini doesn't meet your (somewhat pedantic) need to reflect one authors description in one book, kitbash your own...
His arguments, the hair aside, are reasonable. Why go out of the way the connect this model to a given character and then not make an effort to represent his appearance from the only places he's described? It's just sloppy.
The model can be well sculpted and still not be accurate to the character's canon description without needing you to come in here and bully someone for having an opinion.
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2021/12/12 22:39:26
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Undead_Love-Machine wrote:I was wondering why the detail of the faces didn't seem as sharp as other Forge World minis, the fact that they are plastic would explain this I guess. I'd like to see unpainted versions before reaching a final conclusion though.
I mean, they are nowhere near the quality of Captain Korvydae for example:
To be fair, even nice FW sculpts can be undone with a poor paint job. Just look at what he looks like without paint
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