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2007/08/01 12:07:13
Subject: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Sentient OverBear
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I just moved to Tampa, Florida, and it is DAMN wet down here, and rains at least once every two days. I was going to sit down and start a new project, when I realized that it's not going to be possible to prime in a dry environment. How do you deal with this?
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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2007/08/01 12:16:31
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Either prime in a closed garage then open the doors afterwards to allow it to air out, or casually walk into a McDonald's bathroom with an incognito box under your arm, lock the door, and have at it! :-P
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And God said unto Abraham, "Take this mighty bolter, my son, and smite thy enemies from afar. Fear not, Emperor protects..er, I mean, well, youknowwhatImean." |
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2007/08/01 14:07:14
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Lots of airconditioning. We had a string of humid days a while ago just when I was attempting to glue together some daemons. No matter what I did the glue would not dry. Went home, thew on the airconditioning, waited a while, and once the air was completely dry began sticking. Worked perfectly. BYE [EDIT]: Damn humans!
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2007/08/01 14:17:30
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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human days... human days.... human days.........
"If it weren't for that horse, I wouldn't have spent that extra year in college"
(if you know where that's from, you get one free e-hug from me)
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And God said unto Abraham, "Take this mighty bolter, my son, and smite thy enemies from afar. Fear not, Emperor protects..er, I mean, well, youknowwhatImean." |
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2007/08/01 14:24:40
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Madrak Ironhide
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No clue how this applies to humidity, but it involves not spray priming: Priming with Gesso100 pics of Gesso drying
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2007/08/01 15:44:48
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Put the figures on something you can move. Primer them outside, then promptly remove them to an air-conditioned room to dry.
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He's got a mind like a steel trap. By which I mean it can only hold one idea at a time;
it latches on to the first idea to come along, good or bad; and it takes strenuous effort with a crowbar to make it let go.
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2007/08/01 16:03:26
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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[DCM]
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If no aircon a fan works well.
I prime under the steps in our unit complex and then bring them back to the spare room to dry under a fan. Also do the same for varnishing.
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2007/08/02 00:58:33
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Sentient OverBear
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Thanks everyone. Looks like I prime outside, then immediately bring it back in. I do have air conditioning; living without it would be unacceptable. As a famous Florida blogger once said, "All you people who make fun of Florida for the crazy stuff, remember that all this crap would still be your problem if they hadn't invented air conditioning".
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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2007/08/11 00:18:09
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Iorek, Something I've found works really well is: Prime your models, preferably in a closed garage, or outdoors if need be, then straight away zap them with a ladies hairdryer on high until they are touch-dry. This works really well, and you'll be surprised at how quick they dry. Couple of things with this I've learnt thru hard experience: 1) If priming light or small bits of plastic / resin / metal etc, make sure they are double-sided-taped to your base 2) Clear it with the wife before you use her good hairdryer (and, in my case, after apologising, slip out and buy an el-cheapo travel dryer.) Cheers, Padre^. 5000 Plus Games, Ipsiwch, Queensland, Australia - Bring on the Apocalypse! www.5000plusgames.com
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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2007/08/11 00:58:37
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Clousseau
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Second the gesso. Been using it for months and love it.
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Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.
I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil |
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2007/08/11 06:47:52
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Focused Fire Warrior
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i have a dehumidifier in my basement that works well for all my painting & priming, maybe if you have an enclosed garage put one in there cause the last time i lived in florida i didn't know anyone w/a basement & no one in the house will complain about the smell of the paint/primer drying in your house i know my wife & daughters did before i got the dehumidifier cause i took my stuff up stairs to dry in the a/c.
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"Before I have to hit him I hope he has the sense to run" Jerry Garcia
"Blood is Freedom's Stain" Bruce Dickinson/Steve Harris |
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2007/08/11 12:37:35
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
The wilds of Pennsyltucky
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Posted By Mr. Bombadidaloo on 08/01/2007 7:17 PM human days... human days.... human days......... "If it weren't for that horse, I wouldn't have spent that extra year in college" (if you know where that's from, you get one free e-hug from me) Ron White. Me and my son, Tater -Tot, are waiting for our e-hug. See my sig. ender502
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"Burning the aquila into the retinas of heretics is the new black." - Savnock
"The ignore button is for pansees who can't deal with their own problems. " - H.B.M.C. |
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2007/08/11 13:58:34
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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I always paint in the basement, but it has been as dry as the Kalahari in the dry season lately so I can prime outside.
In daisy dukes and a belly shirt.
No, I won't post pics.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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2007/08/11 15:39:01
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Madrak Ironhide
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Does it look anything like this, Jester?
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2007/08/12 04:43:10
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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The Main Man
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I usually just prime by hand with thinned down acrylic black paint (chaos black, or whatever is decent that I can get for relatively cheap), so it's not a problem. However, that hair dryer idea sounds really good. Are there any other problems you've encountered while using a hairdryer? Does it work for varnishing? And that quote is Lewis Black, not Ron White.
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2007/08/12 04:50:44
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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The Main Man
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Oh man. That Gesso stuff looks really cool. What are the advantages of using that stuff to hand prime models, as opposed to regular watered-down acrylic paint? Besides the "tight" drying, of course? Do you think it would work well on 15mm stuff?
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2007/08/12 05:48:28
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Madrak Ironhide
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The advantage is that he just glops it on.
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2007/08/12 06:43:01
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Executing Exarch
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Hordini, the difference is that gesso is a primer--one not specifically designed for minis, but it does the job well enough--while Chaos Black or its equivalent is just paint. The former will stick well to the mini and give you a good base to paint on, while the latter will just make the mini, well, black.
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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2007/08/12 10:13:40
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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The Main Man
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That's it then? Doesn't sound that great, in that case. I've actually read a lot about using primer on minis, and I've come to the conclusion (through both reading and personal experience) that on a mini "primer" as opposed to "paint" for an undercoat doesn't really make that much of a difference. I've had some correspondence with one of the top modelers from Battlefront (it was Phil or Evan, I can't remember for sure), and he said that most paints that are labeled as "primer" for minis isn't really much different than paint. True primer being used mostly for cars and that sort of thing - a real primer would just melt plastic. He told me that for miniature size things, paint works just fine. He said that personally, he just used a really watered-down enamel paint. And he has experience in both the miniatures and the automobile industry. I've been undercoating with cheap black paint for years, and have had no problems, especially after varnishing. When I look back at the minis that I used actual GW "primer" on, they hold up just as well, and I have less loss of detail with the paint. YMMV.
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2007/08/12 10:21:21
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Tunneling Trygon
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Not Ron White, but in fact Stuart Black.
There's a "Black and White" joke in there, but I'm not smart enough to make it.
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2007/08/12 11:15:18
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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The Main Man
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Geesh. I already posted it. It's Lewis Black, man. Lewis Black. Do Dakkaites in general not know anything about comedians, or is it just a phenomenon limited to this thread? Ron White, Stuart Black....wtf? Next someone is going to try to tell me that Bill Cosby's most popular routine is, "You might be a redneck."
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2007/08/12 11:30:32
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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Comedians stealing jokes isn't anything new, it seems Carlos Mencia based his career on it! I do loves me some tater salad, though.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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2007/08/12 14:11:39
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Tunneling Trygon
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I already posted it. It's Lewis Black, man. Lewis Black. Right, Jon Stewart, Lewis Black. I'm losing it. I guess it's all just a blur of people who wouldn't have careers if not for George W Bush.
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2007/08/12 15:43:35
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Madrak Ironhide
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I don't know about that.
They'd have careers. Maybe not fame and fortune, but they'd have work, maybe writing for others.
Or they'd just be making fun of Al Gore. Cuz, you know,it's Al Gore.
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2007/08/12 19:28:35
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Dangerous Skeleton Captain
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I come from a tropical country, so it's ALWAYS humid here.
Prime with car primer, it doesn't fuzz up like the GW sprays do, it's cheaper, and it grips better than the so called GW "primer" anyway...
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2007/08/12 19:54:47
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hey Hordini, No worries with the hairdryer idea on varnish - works really well there too. RE what undercoat to use, I've been using a non-GW brand for about 10 years now called "White Knight - Squirts - flat black" or "undercoat" (that's the white.) Works a treat, doesn't go chalky like GW stuff, and is a 1/3 of the price. Don't know what the US or UK version is, sorry. Padre^. 5000 Plus Games, Ipswich, Queensland, Australia - Bring on the Apocalypse! www.5000plusgames.com
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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2007/08/13 20:55:19
Subject: RE: Priming when it's REALLY wet out.
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The Main Man
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Cool, thanks for the info guys. So I'm assuming that if you use a hair dryer on varnish, it can help prevent "frosting" in non-ideal temperatures and humidity levels? It sounds like it may be a quick fix.
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