2010 40k Models - scuttlebutt from Warseer/new LotD on page 6

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**cygnnus**

TBD wrote:Still, Beastmen, Blood Angels and Ogres are not really the releases at (or even near) the top of most people's wish lists.

Let us hope the Battle Missions releases and the latter part of 2010 will make up for this.

I may not be "most people" but that's batting .666 for my own, personal, wish lists since I have both Blood Angels and Beastmen and both have some issues with their current books...

Vale,

JohnS

**Cryonicleech**

I'm with cygnnus. I'm looking forward to Beastmen and Ogres, and I know quite a few people who are highly anticipating them.

**derek**

Ogres would actually get me playing WFB, always loved the Core models, but the heroes and lords just don't seem right to me. Here's hoping for some new choices when they're released.

**InquisitorFabius**

I know I will be picking up two new armies in '10.

Beastmen to compliment my Mortal Chaos force and GK/Necrons barring which gets done.

**reds8n**

The OP ( Mr. Stickmonkey) made a new post relating to this ..

So in discussion today a few new things came up. Treat as rumors, as this source does not have direct information.

Missions Book
* New units for SM, Orks, Chaos/CSM, and IG re-confirmed. No other love.

Inquisition
* All inquisition units to get new models...eventually
* Codex: Inquisition to combine all orders of =I=
* GK being focused on for release, Sisters 2nd wave
* No allies, but indoctrinated units will include choices from other Imperial armies
* No faith points
* Lots of Psychic Nullification
* Lots of Ignore Invul
* Another flyer/transport kit Valkyrie-sized being planned for release
* GK models may see light of day early tied into another product release. (commentary: I hear rumors of a Space hulk expansion being planned, but they are vague and disorganized, so much salt needed here)
* Release window is not 2010 for C:I
* Imperial Assassin now a single unit, culdex, Caladeus, etc all gone. Unit will have numerous lethal options. Very Expensive.

Dark Eldar
* GW would like to try opposing armies back to back... (commentary: DE/E? Who are DEs biggest opposition?)
* While most models are "final" the sprue designs are not started for some...aka we still have a manufacturing ramp up
* New units heavy in FA FOC

Necrons
* Likely last Codex before 6th Ed. (commentary:i.e. dont hold your breath)
* Complete overhaul
* Some chance of early plastics in 2011 for existing units that need them...but design changes may preclude. (commentary: i.e. dont count on any new models until the Codex release.)
* Much more "Immortal" theme, less "Terminator" (commentary: I took this to mean more organic based and asked, and was told "no, not organic, they will still be undying machines")

Sounds about right for the battle missions book .. little hmm about a CSM release.. but if this includes the plastic DP then it would fit, Eldar and Dark Eldar coming not long after each other would make sense to me, especially if the bikes work out how i think they will. As to the I speculation...hmm... could be.. too far in the future to second guess much IMO.

**Agamemnon2**

I'd be saddened if they indeed removed the four assassin temples, though I do think those four units are somewhat superfluous and a lot of them have waaay too many special rules. Having one customizeable Assassin entry might be all right, as long as we're still able to have some of the signature temple abilities, like the Exitus rifle or polymorphine.

**reds8n**

Hmm..yeah, I agree with your reasoning, and I guess it would make sense to have perhaps 1 entry and then 4 (.. or more...) temple option packages to select from perhaps.

Does seem a bit opposite of what GW have been doing of late in some ways though... which you could argue makes it a shoo in to happen perhaps

..

I guess something akin to the veterans in the guard codex (although much harder obviously) would work.

**Gargskull**

Look at it this way, if they roll all four assassin types with all their gear into one army list choice then the odds are high for a warhammer wizard/space marine captain style plastic kit for a unit that wouldn't otherwise have gotten one.

Missions Book
* New units for SM, Orks, Chaos/CSM, and IG re-confirmed. No other love.

When he syas units, doe she mean new army list choices or just new models for existing choices, I thought it was the latter based on his other posts but he makes it sound like the former here...

**reds8n**

I think he means those are the only armies getting new models alongside this release.

Which sounds right to me from what I've heard.

**Gargskull**

Cool, that's what I thought was going on, just the wording threw me a bit.

Cheers.

I can't wait to see the new Ork models, can't belive just how much stuff we've gotten now for Orks, utter glee.

**Howlingmoon**

Death By Monkeys wrote:
Dysartes wrote:Are Ogres confirmed now, then, reds8n?

My sources give me a big 'negatory' on OK coming soon.

I've heard something about everything you've been told being a lie.

Don't remember where from though.

**Kingsley**

I'm loving these rumors! A combined Inquisition codex with custom Assassins? That just might be enough to get me to switch armies!

**Agamemnon2**

reds8n wrote:Hmm..yeah, I agree with your reasoning, and I guess it would make sense to have perhaps 1 entry and then 4 (.. or more...) temple option packages to select from perhaps.

I wouldn't mind seeing a return to the early-second edition (Black Codex) Assassins who you could equip piecemeal to suit your specs, as long as they give out enough options to make it meaningful, not just a generic profile with generic wargear.

**Archonate**

ShumaGorath wrote:It's too bad the regular marine models don't get poses as dynamic as those legion models.

They do if you paint the legion models as regular SMs... They're space marines ffs, they all look the same.

"SHUT UP! Enough already, Ballstein! Who cares about (Space Marines) anyway? The (miniatures have) only one look for Christ's sake! Blue Steel? Ferrari? Le Tigra? They're the same face! Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!"

Seriously though, I will never understand the need for so many kits for models that are so similar. I am glad for those who are excited about these minis though.

**Eldar Own**

Gargskull wrote:Cool, that's what I thought was going on, just the wording threw me a bit.

Cheers.

I can't wait to see the new Ork models, can't belive just how much stuff we've gotten now for Orks, utter glee.

It's great but i would like to other models (hint, hint eldar) to come out with theese expansions. When planetstrike came out the only models released along with it were SM models.

**BloodofOrks**

Sweet! New Inquisition sounds great. I may not be able to resist starting a new army.

**Brother SRM**

Over the last few years I've heard the idea of a unified Inquisition codex being shot down repeatedly. That's a rumor I'm not so keen on, since it gets refuted so often. The rest of the rumored Inquisition stuff sounds pretty plausible, however. A unified assassin in the army list, cutting out allies rules, just plenty of streamlining work. Also, the idea of Grey Knights happening first makes sense with the previous rumor of Stickmonkey seeing Grey Knight Terminator 3-ups.

I would assume the Chaos release for the Missions book in March will be the Daemon Prince. Can't figure what else it would be.

**BrassScorpion**

New units for SM, Orks, Chaos/CSM, and IG re-confirmed.

Now what could be coming for Chaos besides the plastic Daemon Prince? Finally, a plastic Dreadnought or all plastic "cult" troops? Or perhaps more Daemons releases?

**combatmedic**

Taking out assassins would make me leave this game. Im nervous about customizable single units, but Id give it a shot.

Hope they dont Dark Angel the Inquisitor books.

**Anung Un Rama**

Archonate wrote:"SHUT UP! Enough already, Ballstein! Who cares about (Space Marines) anyway? The (miniatures have) only one look for Christ's sake! Blue Steel? Ferrari? Le Tigra? They're the same face! Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!

Well, we all know how that scene ended.

Nice reference though.

If they include some Guard and Marine stuff in the book, I can live with it. If you want to field more, you can still play Apocalypse.

Though IMO Sisters need the plastics much more than Grey Knights.

Also: new craftworld Eldar? Why?

**Schepp himself**

Those second wave of rumors sounds a lot more plausible. Maybe because they are a lot more vague...

I'm looking forward to the mission book. Even though I always feel that you can already play those expansion books if you just try something different for yourself... I mean Apocalypse is more or less "anything goes". Why do you need a rulebook for that?

Greets
Schepp himself

**Kurgash**

reds8n wrote:Necrons
* Likely last Codex before 6th Ed. (commentary:i.e. dont hold your breath)
* Complete overhaul
* Some chance of early plastics in 2011 for existing units that need them...but design changes may preclude. (commentary: i.e. dont count on any new models until the Codex release.)
* Much more "Immortal" theme, less "Terminator" (commentary: I took this to mean more organic based and asked, and was told "no, not organic, they will still be undying machines")

so Necrons are probably pushed again until god knows when, sad sad day. With the rumour of 6th ed just after Necrons all likeliness they just will kill the army again with some rule change 'IE FnP on 4+, ignored by ap4' or some other random nonsense.

**Death By Monkeys**

Gargskull wrote:I can't wait to see the new Ork models, can't belive just how much stuff we've gotten now for Orks, utter glee.

Source I talked to yesterday also mentioned new Killa Kanz and Buggies.

**Fateweaver**

I'm thinking plastic DP and plastic Seekers released in March. The DP ties in to both the Daemon and CSM armies though I'm not sure if generic daemon cavalry exist anymore (been a while since I opened up the latest csm codex).

It

reds8n wrote:The OP ( Mr. Stickmonkey) made a new post relating to this ..

Dark Eldar
* GW would like to try opposing armies back to back... (commentary: DE/E? Who are DEs biggest opposition?)

Necrons are normal eldar's joint-2nd biggest enemy...

Do i get any hope?

**Aduro**

Kurgash wrote:
reds8n wrote:Necrons
* Likely last Codex before 6th Ed. (commentary:i.e. dont hold your breath)
* Complete overhaul
* Some chance of early plastics in 2011 for existing units that need them...but design changes may preclude. (commentary: i.e. dont count on any new models until the Codex release.)
* Much more "Immortal" theme, less "Terminator" (commentary: I took this to mean more organic based and asked, and was told "no, not organic, they will still be undying machines")

so Necrons are probably pushed again until god knows when, sad sad day. With the rumour of 6th ed just after Necrons all likeliness they just will kill the army again with some rule change 'IE FnP on 4+, ignored by ap4' or some other random nonsense.

My one hope is that they'll be designed with at least some of the changes to 6th in mind, like the current Ork book. When is 6th supposed to come out?

**Eldar Own**

It wrote:
reds8n wrote:The OP ( Mr. Stickmonkey) made a new post relating to this ..

Dark Eldar
* GW would like to try opposing armies back to back... (commentary: DE/E? Who are DEs biggest opposition?)

Necrons are normal eldar's joint-2nd biggest enemy...

Do i get any hope?

What about Slaneesh, the Eldar don't like him. He caused the fall. Which the Eldar didn't like.

**Kanluwen**

You've got that backwards.

The Fall of the Eldar created Slaanesh.

**Schepp himself**

Eldar Own wrote:
It wrote:
reds8n wrote:The OP ( Mr. Stickmonkey) made a new post relating to this ..

Dark Eldar
* GW would like to try opposing armies back to back... (commentary: DE/E? Who are DEs biggest opposition?)

Necrons are normal eldar's joint-2nd biggest enemy...

Do i get any hope?

What about Slaneesh, the Eldar don't like him. He caused the fall. Which the Eldar didn't like.

Kanluwen wrote:You've got that backwards.

The Fall of the Eldar created Slaanesh.

I actually lol'd.

You are both right, though, Eldar in general don't like Slaanesh pretty much because he likes to munch yummy eldar souls and they can't get into the infinite circus.

But Necron sounds more plausible.

Greets
Schepp himself

**H.B.M.C.**

So now they are doing a combined Inquisition book?

It must be so much fun to change horses each lap...