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My best bet against Meph would be sending in my Keeper of Secrets, I:10 A:7 on charge

Twisted_Thrasher wrote:My best bet against Meph would be sending in my Keeper of Secrets, I:10 A:7 on charge

you would probably hit and wound him on 4's so those attacks would be excellent. use 2 KOS and he is in for a world of hurt. isn't an eldar avatar also I10? he might work too.

IronfrontAlex wrote:

Twisted_Thrasher wrote:My best bet against Meph would be sending in my Keeper of Secrets, I:10 A:7 on charge

you would probably hit and wound him on 4's so those attacks would be excellent. use 2 KOS and he is in for a world of hurt. isn't an eldar avatar also I10? he might work too.

No, the Avatar is WS 10, not I10.

Also, other things that come to mind:

Anything with Tyranid Lash Whips

Howling Banshees (with Mephiston Doomed, hopefully)

Daemonettes

I already knew about deamonettes and planed on buying them now for my deamon army but i totally forgot about banchees! mephy doesnt stand a chance against eldar ahaha; runes of witnessing ftw

that stuff you said were in the codex seems overpowered imo but then agian i havent seen how many pts they cost.

epil wrote:that stuff you said were in the codex seems overpowered imo but then agian i havent seen how many pts they cost.

which stuff? and its all true

I think DA players should as a rule use the new blood angels codex..

Did they not have the Iron wing..

Are they not also from the 2nd ed Angels of death stable. ..

I personally think this codex will be just like wolves in that they'll be heaps of amzing stuff and you wont be albe to actually fit that much into a list.

Also the bitter cynical chaos side weeps tears of rage.. Chaos gods are a shortcut to power haha sure.

Also flying dreadnoughts is actually stupider then wolfs on wolfs.

lol yo dawg i heard you like wolves so i put wolves on your wolves so you can ... rend while you rend?

lol yo dawg i heard you like wolves so i put wolves on your wolves so you can ... rend while you rend?

I see what you did there.

Old meme is old?

I also think its funny all the people who hate twilight know so much about it.

Closet vampires...

I dont even hate twilight that much but then I dont think about it all day.

vampire meme comment is vampire meme comment.


blood angels=mobile vanilla marines with a few new DS options, a new skimmer, and non scoring special troops.

no biggie

Or better yet Meph vs. the slightest of all odds of a Shokk Attack Gun rolling 12....... remove from table muhahahahahaha... or you could just accidently end up putting your Big mek next to him.... hmmm

I just so fething hope Chaos get's crap like this when they redo our lot. New rules, new models everything.

And honestly if I can crush the Trygon with spammed plasma. Then I can kill some Vampire Emo Angel boy.

Shadowbrand wrote:I just so fething hope Chaos get's crap like this when they redo our lot. New rules, new models everything.

And honestly if I can crush the Trygon with spammed plasma. Then I can kill some Vampire Emo Angel boy.

rofl, lots of love there!

Agreed, well not new models i like the current chaos ones

OMG PEOPLE!
Get over it the Blood Angels still have some drawbacks! for instance they cannot split into combat squads! that and their units are really expensive and also their characters will be easy targets for your anti-powerarmor. That and also they don't have access to the orbital bombardment and also to your trusty relic blade! Also their stuff costs alot and they also lack the traits normal space marines have. Plus not only that but they don't have iron clads, thunderfire cannons and the ablities of a Libarian.

Also to all those XENOS players out there heres a word of advice. MASS SPAM TEMPLATES!!! Orcs heres your stragety! MASSING WORKS! Eldar get dark reapers and snipers, dire avengers, and fire dragons. Tyranids trygons and Swarmlord. Necrons you'll be fine. Dark Eldar! Your op as we already know! Tau pretty clear what to do, shoot your way out, and try not to get into combat, -key lots of template weapons.

Adivce to Imperial Players
Inqustion-Grey knights work wonders ever since psychic powers do not work on them
Witch Hunters- Get lots of ap 2 or 3 weapons
Space Marines- Plasma Weapons and Tanks!
Imperail Guard- Valrikes! and lots and lots of tanks! mainly leman russes!

Asherian Command wrote:OMG PEOPLE!
Get over it the Blood Angels still have some drawbacks! for instance they cannot split into combat squads! that and their units are really expensive and also their characters will be easy targets for your anti-powerarmor. That and also they don't have access to the orbital bombardment and also to your trusty relic blade! Also their stuff costs alot and they also lack the traits normal space marines have. Plus not only that but they don't have iron clads, thunderfire cannons and the ablities of a Libarian.

Also to all those XENOS players out there heres a word of advice. MASS SPAM TEMPLATES!!! Orcs heres your stragety! MASSING WORKS! Eldar get dark reapers and snipers, dire avengers, and fire dragons. Tyranids trygons and Swarmlord. Necrons you'll be fine. Dark Eldar! Your op as we already know! Tau pretty clear what to do, shoot your way out, and try not to get into combat, -key lots of template weapons.

Adivce to Imperial Players
Inqustion-Grey knights work wonders ever since psychic powers do not work on them
Witch Hunters- Get lots of ap 2 or 3 weapons
Space Marines- Plasma Weapons and Tanks!
Imperail Guard- Valrikes! and lots and lots of tanks! mainly leman russes!

The last dex had combat squads...

Quiet, you! No one has been freaking out for a few pages. And anyway, armor spam will be the most dangerous build, not the 300-point assault squads. They aren't even getting a model for the new skimmer (this one makes me sad, I love vehicle kits that aren't FW).

as far as people have been reporting combat squads are in

Also, if a Land Raider Deep strikes, you cannot assault from it.

A few other things to clarify rumors into actual literature from the Codex:

"1. Mephiston does NOT have Independant Character. He CANNOT join units. he IS Fleet

2. Land Raiders can ONLY be taken as dedicated transports......BUT THEY HAVE THE DEEP STRIKE RULE......

3. All vehicles with a Rhino chassis are FAST (Rhino, Razorback, Vindicator, Predator (both Baal and normal) and Whirlwind) - the Vindicator IS fast, move 12" and fire the cannon people!

4. Furioso and Death Company Dreads can take Blood Talons, which allow them to make another attack for each unsaved attack, and this is successive, it continues until you fail to wound.

5. Stormraven is 50 points cheaper than a Land Raider and is 12 on ALL sides, even rear, and carries 12 models and/or 1 Dreadnought. and jumptroops that disembarked if it went flatout do NOT take dangerous. so it can carry 10 marines + 2 characters and a dread

6. Vanguards are 10 points cheaper base than Codex SM, but still no attached Jumpacks

7. Death Company are Black Rage, Fearless, Feel No Pain, Furious Charge and Relentless and can be in a squad of 3-30.

8. Sanguinary Guard are Elites with 2+ saves and seperate from the Honour Guard, Dante makes them Troops.

9. Dante has 4 wounds, but no EW.

10 Blood Angels have the Reclusiarch, the old GOOD Chaplain. I5, W3 etc.

11. Astorath the Grim removes the limit of Death Company, so theoretically you could have six 30 man squads.

12. Descent of Angels, Blood Angels with this rule reroll failed Deep Strike reserve rolls and only scatter 1 D6.

13. Death Company dreads ignore shaken and stunned.

15. Furiosos are WS6 and Front armour 13.

16. TYCHO - Normal Tycho has Rites of Battle, Preferred Enemy: Orks. he ignores armour in CC and rolls 2d6 against armour and rerolls one failed to wound. Death Company Tycho loses RoB but gains all Death Company traits.

17. Lemartes is ok, if he gets wounded he becomes ST and Tgh 5. and has a master crafted PW, he and his squad also rerolls to hit AND wound on the charge (as do all chaplains if they are in a Death Company, normal squads just reroll to hit.)

18. Astorath, if hes in, all units suffer Red Thirst on a 1-3. has the Liturgies of Blood (reroll to hit(and wd if DC) he has a St 6 PW that forces rerolls of successful invuls.

19. Anyone within 6" of Sanguinary Priests are Furious charge and Feel no Pain

20. Corbulo is st5 in CC and rending.

21 The Sanguinator! WS 8, BS 5, ST 5 I6. Can choose to reroll hits and wds vs one enemy HQ. Choose one Sgt in your army to get +1 WS, Wound, I, and attack for the battle. He has been bleesed by Sanguinius. he has a 3+ invul. Everybody within 6" is +1 attack. is fearless, has eternal warrior. furious charge. Glaive encarmine.

22. Sanguinary Guards can have Death Masks, enemy must make leadership or be reduced to WS1 for the assault.

23.DANTE: Choose one enemy IC, it now has - 1 WS, Wound, I, and attack for the rest of the game. That sucks for everybody. He's only St4 and tgh 4 though. He does not scatter if he deepstrikes though and he has Hit and Run.

24. Gabriel Seth: has a two handed chainsword that is ST 8 and rending (not a power weapon though). Can choose to forgo his attacks to make one AUTO HIT on every model in base contact. If you roll a 1 to hit seth, you suffer an automatic st 4 hit as Seth kicks you in the jubblies."

From http://gigabitescafe.com/forum/index.php?topic=2417.0

I love the DC rules. Rapid fire bolters, then assault with 3 (4 if Sanguinor is around) S5 I5 attacks re-rolling misses and failed wounds, while getting a 3+ and 4+ save against enemy attacks (if there's anything left). And I think one in five can take a PW/PF?

I still want to know the cost of the fast vehicles. Rhino is supposedly 50.

@Iron front.

I love most of the current Chaos stuff. But with gak like this I'd like to see what they could come up with for new Plague Marines or a new raptor kit.

With the way that all these SM chapters are getting updated I can't wait to see DA. Considering each one looks to be getting more powerful than the previous one.

Shadowbrand wrote:@Iron front.

I love most of the current Chaos stuff. But with gak like this I'd like to see what they could come up with for new Plague Marines or a new raptor kit.[/quote
Totally im waiting for a codex chaos legions book prehaps? my word bearers could use a dark apostle model :p and maybe some new biker models that arent from 2nd edition would be nice.




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Asherian Command wrote:OMG PEOPLE!
Get over it the Blood Angels still have some drawbacks! for instance they cannot split into combat squads! that and their units are really expensive and also their characters will be easy targets for your anti-powerarmor. That and also they don't have access to the orbital bombardment and also to your trusty relic blade! Also their stuff costs alot and they also lack the traits normal space marines have. Plus not only that but they don't have iron clads, thunderfire cannons and the ablities of a Libarian.

Also to all those XENOS players out there heres a word of advice. MASS SPAM TEMPLATES!!! Orcs heres your stragety! MASSING WORKS! Eldar get dark reapers and snipers, dire avengers, and fire dragons. Tyranids trygons and Swarmlord. Necrons you'll be fine. Dark Eldar! Your op as we already know! Tau pretty clear what to do, shoot your way out, and try not to get into combat, -key lots of template weapons.

Adivce to Imperial Players
Inqustion-Grey knights work wonders ever since psychic powers do not work on them
Witch Hunters- Get lots of ap 2 or 3 weapons
Space Marines- Plasma Weapons and Tanks!
Imperail Guard- Valrikes! and lots and lots of tanks! mainly leman russes!

dude we are just discussing the codex nobody is freaking anymore this is just another army. let us have fun with the discussion eh?

terminus wrote:I love the DC rules. Rapid fire bolters, then assault with 3 (4 if Sanguinor is around) S5 I5 attacks re-rolling misses and failed wounds, while getting a 3+ and 4+ save against enemy attacks (if there's anything left). And I think one in five can take a PW/PF?

I still want to know the cost of the fast vehicles. Rhino is supposedly 50.

How come they get to assault after rapid firing their boltguns?

If he's talking about the nifty new winged dudes with nipples on their armour, I think it's because they're not really rapid firing, but that they basically have storm bolters.

so stormbolterrs and power weapons on jump packs?

Yeah, with some other nifty rules that were mentioned somewhere in this thread. Some kind of re-rolls? Can't remember. They're good, though.

at what point cost?

No idea. You're talking to a guy who doesn't even know they're special abilities. I guess I was premature in saying they're good. I don't even know their points cost.

Where are all the people who've seen the codex? They seem to be curiously absent.