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BlaxicanX wrote:
As in, the Guard is the most awesome faction in the setting by far, and would crush any other faction in a total fight.

Come. At. Me.


If nothing else, I totally agree with this statement. The Guard is by far the best and most awesome faction.

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At least we seem to have somewhat of an agreement in this thread, one of the few, but an important one nonetheless.

 
   
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It is the most important one. Every one knows the nids are just attacking orks out of fear of the Guard.

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All this debate is rather interesting, but all we have is unknowns x unknowns x unknowns. I have no bias as I own and play both tyranids and orks. Off the top of my head I'd lean towards 'nids, just because they retain knowledge of a battle, even if they are wiped out.

Maybe GW will create a terrible hybrid - a tyranork! Yeah, a ROBOTIC tyranork!! That's it! A CHAOTIC race of tyranork robots! Of course! And they bless themselves in the blood of of the Sisters of Battle! Perfect! For the Greater Good!


Er... sorry, got carried away.

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amanita wrote:All this debate is rather interesting, but all we have is unknowns x unknowns x unknowns. I have no bias as I own and play both tyranids and orks. Off the top of my head I'd lean towards 'nids, just because they retain knowledge of a battle, even if they are wiped out.

Maybe GW will create a terrible hybrid - a tyranork! Yeah, a ROBOTIC tyranork!! That's it! A CHAOTIC race of tyranork robots! Of course! And they bless themselves in the blood of of the Sisters of Battle! Perfect! For the Greater Good!


Er... sorry, got carried away.


Promote this man to Colonel, immediately.

 
   
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Do not be giving them any ideas.

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Tyranid win every time.

   
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TheContortionist wrote:Tyranid win every time.

Sorry i would have to disagree with that , the Imperial Guard has beatin them back before and won , but it is not easy fear . Are the Space Roaches hard to kill yes , Can they be Beaten yes .

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TheContortionist wrote:Tyranid win every time.


If that were true.. where would the stories come from? They'd be nobody around to tell them and nobody would know about them.

 
   
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Im with Demetri on this one , If it bleeds , you can kill it and last time i checked the Space roaches bleed alot

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Yep they can lose to anybody. If it can die then it can lose.

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^^ Wait the necrons dont bleed though, so does that mean that they cant lose??

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I am sure they bleed something, lubricants or such.

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Thanks for the link Dimitri. For what it's worth I also believe the Imperium would defeat the Tyranids in a one on one faction fight.
   
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Scrabb wrote:Thanks for the link Dimitri. For what it's worth I also believe the Imperium would defeat the Tyranids in a one on one faction fight.


Not a problem. And see, it may be blasphemous to say this but, even with the Emperor at the forefront I'm not sure they could, they have a good chance, but it's still a gamble anyways. Humanity may have a ton of resources available to fight, but it can't renew itself like the Orks can. And as everyone already knows, IM-not so-HO, the Imperium may be the best thing ever.. but its got a massive struggle ahead of itself to destroy every xenos out there... but that's a different thread entirely.

 
   
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DemetriDominov wrote:
Scrabb wrote:Thanks for the link Dimitri. For what it's worth I also believe the Imperium would defeat the Tyranids in a one on one faction fight.


Not a problem. And see, it may be blasphemous to say this but, even with the Emperor at the forefront I'm not sure they could, they have a good chance, but it's still a gamble anyways. Humanity may have a ton of resources available to fight, but it can't renew itself like the Orks can. And as everyone already knows, IM-not so-HO, the Imperium may be the best thing ever.. but its got a massive struggle ahead of itself to destroy every xenos out there... but that's a different thread entirely.


the Imperium could certainly beat the Tyranids if they had full efforts on it , problem is that the imperials are streched across the Galaxy not in a few sectors

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Oh here we go again. lol

 
   
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Tyranids vs Orks = Guard victory?

huh?
   
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Tyranids vs Orks = Guard victory?



Well they might let the SM play a while so they can feel useful before they come in and clear everyone out. But yep Sounds right.

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octarius sector squishin bugz

Yet they cant hold their own against the tyranids or orks when there is a waaaagh or a when a tendril of a hive fleet lands on a planet. They win either if they get really lucky, I mean really lucky here folks, like really really lucky... you dont even know how lucky... like incredibly lucky... I think you get the point . Anyway thats one way the other is if they have space marines to help them out . Both are not that reliant and both are incredibly likely not to work at all. Dont get me wrong the IG is great but lets face it in the fluff they are nothing but sheep sent to the slaughter.

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Ya need to read more Gaunt's Ghosts man. It is all in who is writing. I mean SM for the most part ( Baring the SM Porn some or most of the BL stuff turns into)kinda suck, they have some good points but , a good part of em do not work right, they take8-12 years to make(assuming the subject lives) and are limited in numbers to be more or less useless.

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All the Orks in the galaxy uniting under one banner would get curbed by an Impierum that's united and fighting on one front.
   
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Maybe, maybe not.

According to official fluff if all the orks united they would sweep away all the other races in a tide of gore, but 'official' fluff tends to contradict itself.

Since we have no idea how many orks there are out there beyond 'fething lots!' it's hard to make definite statements on this

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I think your all forgetting about marbo and his demo pack of the apocolyspe but on a serious note im gonna say nids i love orks but with how quickly nids adapt and evolve id give it to them it would be insanely close though
   
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Ascalam wrote:Maybe, maybe not.

According to official fluff if all the orks united they would sweep away all the other races in a tide of gore, but 'official' fluff tends to contradict itself.

Since we have no idea how many orks there are out there beyond 'fething lots!' it's hard to make definite statements on this


Correct. The GK codex explicitly states that if the Imperium ever focused all of its forces on one enemy, no faction in the Galaxy would be able to contest it.

So yes, codex one-liners are meaningless.

The Imperium would win, though. It's military is smarter, has more destructive capabilities and are less likely to succumb to a power vacuum.
   
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octarius sector squishin bugz

Naw da orks would smash the stikin nids to da ground even if dey looked a little weird!!!!!!

Ya need to read more Gaunt's Ghosts man. It is all in who is writing. I mean SM for the most part ( Baring the SM Porn some or most of the BL stuff turns into)kinda suck, they have some good points but , a good part of em do not work right, they take8-12 years to make(assuming the subject lives) and are limited in numbers to be more or less useless


It could mean that, but I dont think it does. You see the orks are not a faction at all, they are a race with as many factions as there are worlds in space. plus all uniting to stop the waaagh should destroy them in the end. I mean if the humans do unite they would stand like a year maybe two before the become exhausted and die from that. In the end orks beat everything!!!!!! Xcept maybe necrons


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So if the Emperor just died(that is the only way the iom would unite) then who would take his place??Noone the factions would once again rise up and mass confusion would happen.

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willhman wrote:

In the end orks beat everything!!!!!! Xcept maybe necrons


A small mind is easily filled with faith.

So if the Emperor just died(that is the only way the iom would unite) then who would take his place??Noone the factions would once again rise up and mass confusion would happen.


Not exactly. Really, the only thing that will unite *the Imperium* will be the resurrection of the Emperor, and there are many theories as to how that'll happen.

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willhman wrote:So if the Emperor just died(that is the only way the iom would unite) then who would take his place??Noone the factions would once again rise up and mass confusion would happen.
The Emperor hasn't been leading the Imperium since Horus laid him out. The Imperium has been led by the High Lords of Terra and will continue to do so, and in the event that a member of the High Lords is killed or dies, a new one is simply elected in his place, which has happened before in the Imperium's History.

Nothing short of the works of Chaos is going to make the Imperium start spontaneously killing itself while an enemy force is actively breathing down its neck. Alternatively, that isn't true of the Orks. That's the beauty of having an actual chain of command, as opposed to "whoever's da biggest n da strongest rules!" It takes awhile to figure out the latter.
   
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Nids are just going to eventually eat everything. The Ork battle that has halted them is only one part of the fleet if the whole thing came at the orks then they would be roasted by an endless tide of teeth and claws
   
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BlaxicanX wrote:The Imperium would win, though. It's military is smarter,
Debatable.

"Oomans are pink and soft, not tough and green like da Boyz. They'z all the same size too, so they'z always arguing about who's in charge, 'cos no way of telling 'cept fer badges an' ooniforms and fings. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. Wot a lot of mukkin' about if yer asks me. An' while they'z all arguing wiv each other over who's da boss, da Orks can clobber da lot!" -Anonymous Ork

BlaxicanX wrote:has more destructive capabilities
BlaxicanX wrote:and are less likely to succumb to a power vacuum.
The God Emperor of Mankind is fanatically worshiped by some factions. The High Lords of Terra and the Mech faction (the name escapes me right now), not so much. I mean, all the ork clans working together is more believable than all the space marine chapters working together.

This is all, of course, IMHO.
   
 
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