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 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I decided to subscribe for a month. Is it worth downloading that shadow of revan DLC? It was like $20 more. Or is it just for high level stuff?

I ended up sticking with a darth maul looking bounty hunter, probably because I have Mako tagging along to heal me.

Is the storyline pretty much the same for all characters, except for some class missions thrown in?

Shadow of Revan adds high end content(55-60). And new planets. The story is good. Also, Gary. Gary is the best Sith ever, and he's not even a Sith!

Also, for healing you'll end up getting Treek. Everyone does.

I think people get Treek for the flexibility of Tanking or Healing. I know quite a few that don't use Treek of course. She is really nice but not necessary. I would use HK51 more if there were more endgame armor for droids.

I like the idea of companions, I kinda wish they'd let you take a full party, and they'd talk to each other as you travel around like other bioware games. Then you'd be able to quests you need a full party for, but maybe have the loot goodness scale up for the more real players you group with or something like that.

So far I just have Mako and not-3P0. So how does crafting work, 1 companion can learn 1 skill, so if you have 3 companions you can have 3 skills? I took underworld trading for Mako, just because it seemed right for a bounty hunter.

 Necros wrote:

So far I just have Mako and not-3P0. So how does crafting work, 1 companion can learn 1 skill, so if you have 3 companions you can have 3 skills? I took underworld trading for Mako, just because it seemed right for a bounty hunter.

Not quite... you can have 1 crafting, one gathering and one "questing" skill.... it helps to pick a crafting skill that matches well with the gathering skills (the "questing" skill is another means of gathering materials for crafting)

For instance, my main is a BH as well, and I took Cybertech, Underworld Trading and Scavenging (IIRC). Initially, you can have 1 companion doing crafting, but as you level up and gain more companions, you can send more out on missions/crafting to build it up quicker.

 Necros wrote:
I like the idea of companions, I kinda wish they'd let you take a full party, and they'd talk to each other as you travel around like other bioware games. Then you'd be able to quests you need a full party for, but maybe have the loot goodness scale up for the more real players you group with or something like that.

So far I just have Mako and not-3P0. So how does crafting work, 1 companion can learn 1 skill, so if you have 3 companions you can have 3 skills? I took underworld trading for Mako, just because it seemed right for a bounty hunter.

Crafting is broken down into two types of Crew Skills, crafting ones and gathering ones. Your entire crew of NPCs do missions and crafting from those.

If you're a subscriber, you can have 2 gathering ones and 1 crafting one. Your NPCs do all of them and all share the same skill level, so it is not like Mako is only good at this. All of your crew are equal save for the small buffs and advantages they each have to specific skills.

I think you are only limited to one crafting skill. I have a character that has three gathering (Archeology, Bioanalysis, and Scavenging). I am a subscriber though so I don't know what the limitations are beyond that.

As far as missions just divide your level and that is how many comps you can have craft/on a mission at a time.

20+ = 2+
30+ = 3+
40+ = 4+
50+ = 5

Five is the max I believe, even if you hit 60 with the new expansion.

Cool. Right now I have Mako and the droid from my ship, RV-something. So does that mean I can learn a 2nd skill now? What goes good with Underworld Trading? Folks in chat were saying I should have given mako cybertech but it's too late now. I have underworld trading up to around 200 now, I send them both out to get stuff, or just the droid when I'm out killing stuff. I've mostly been going for the companion gift missions, but half the time I get junk that neither of them want :/

I'm on the Jedi Convent server, name is Sinistrah

So what's the deal with the leagacy thing? Do you need to play tons of alts to get good xp with that? I know the way I usually play these kinds of games is once I get to the end of the main story I usually quit, so I figured I'd probably do a dark side and a light side guy since it will be 2 different stories. I know the class stories will be different but if the rest of the game is the same I'll probably get bored with alts pretty quick. That's what happened with Wildstar, I maxed 1 character, then got bored and made alts then quit a couple weeks later since I ended up doing the same missions over and over.

 Necros wrote:
Cool. Right now I have Mako and the droid from my ship, RV-something. So does that mean I can learn a 2nd skill now? What goes good with Underworld Trading? Folks in chat were saying I should have given mako cybertech but it's too late now. I have underworld trading up to around 200 now, I send them both out to get stuff, or just the droid when I'm out killing stuff. I've mostly been going for the companion gift missions, but half the time I get junk that neither of them want :/

I'm on the Jedi Convent server, name is Sinistrah

As stated earlier, Underworld Trading is a "gathering" type skill. You use it to gather materials for crafting recipes and whatnot. Cybertech is one of the skills that goes very well with Underworld Trading. I can't remember, but if you're not subscribed (as in, f2p) you may only be able to get one crew skill, but once you Sub, you're able to have 3.

I'm also on Jedi Covenant, but under many guises

Underworld Trading is a quest skill that gets rare mats: blues and occasionally purples; it is not a crafting skill. I'll list the crafting skills and their gathering/quest skills that are synergistic.

Cybertech: Makes armor, mods, droid parts (up to a point), and some ship parts. Scavenge and Underword Trading.

Armorcraft: Makes Armor for non-force users and augments. Scavenge and Underworld Trading

Weaponcraft: Makes Barrels, augments, and weapons for non-force users. Scavenge and Investigation.

Synthweaving: Makes Armor for force users and augments. Archeology and Underworld Trading

Artifice: Makes weapons and hilts for force users as well as relics, enhancements, and augments. Archeology and Treasure Hunting

Biochemistry: Make health potions and stat buffs. Some are reusable for Biochem only. Bioanalysis and Diplomacy.

Slicing: Quest that gets money and sliced parts which are used to make augments. Doesn't craft anything nor does it directly tie to any craft, but any craft can use it late game.

Slicing can also reward you with blueprints used by any of the other crafting skills. It is, in essence, the crafting skill that crafts credits.

I'm subbed for now, dunno if I will stay subbed unless it can hold my interest when I feel like I'm "maxxed" .. though I do like how there's a lot more to offer than just grinding and raiding, the starfighter game is pretty fun even though I haven't gotten a single kill yet. Would be cool if they add other stuff like that, maybe pod races

I call any skill you use to make stuff "crafting" skills even if they're not technically. I'm an old dog and I can't learn too many new tricks I'll pick up cybertech then with my droid and then I guess scavenging with the next guy I get.

What happens if i have like 4 different characters in my legacy, and then switch back to the free version where they say you cna only have 2?

 Necros wrote:

I'll pick up cybertech then with my droid and then I guess scavenging with the next guy I get.

Lol, Cybertech goes to your Player Character. Mako actually has a bonus to Cybertech (so she's actually one of the better choices to craft things, especially if her affection rating is maxed). As the crafting goes to your PC, ANYONE of your companions can do any of your "crafting" skills.

oh hehe .. I guess I read it wrong before, I thought it was that your companion was learning it, which seemed like a silly idea.

Nope, they just perform the tasks... sort of.

Any of the Gathering skills that you use "in the field" are, by default, attached to the Companion as an animation (they're the one who will scan the node and pick up the whatever), but you can disable that and do it yourself, if you want.

The Crafting skills, that is, the skills that actually build an item of some kind, those *do* require a Companion to actually perform the task. Certain Companions get a bonus to certain tasks, which can become something of an edge when building items with expensive components... after all, if one Companion has a better chance of a critical success, which will reward you with 2 rather than 1 of said items, then you'll want them doing most of the work.

 Psienesis wrote:
Slicing can also reward you with blueprints used by any of the other crafting skills. It is, in essence, the crafting skill that crafts credits.

It has such a few number of schematics that pop up over and over that they are practically worthless. It is nice but the GTN is flooded with those schematics.

I ended up going with Underworld trading, cyberware and scavenging. I need to get scavenging up to like 90 though for the zones I'm in now. I'm assuming it can go up just from finding stuff, and I can do missions for the other skills?

Cybercraft makes the stuff. You gain skill in it by crafting things. You get scematics though Reverse Engineering, the Trainer, or as random drops from Slicing/mobs(GTN).

Scavenging is a gathering skill you gain levels in by scavenging sliver or better droids or sending comps out but that is usually a poor investment and slower than killing stuff and scavenging.

Underworld Trading gets you rare (blue and purple) materials you need to make blue and purple items. Cybercrafting will only use the Underworld Metals. You gain levels by sending companions on missions.

And I've not even been playing for two months...

That Sorcerer will never be leveled unless they bring back 12x XP. Regular leveling sucks.

Nice DK crib.


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 Ahtman wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I decided to subscribe for a month. Is it worth downloading that shadow of revan DLC? It was like $20 more. Or is it just for high level stuff?

I ended up sticking with a darth maul looking bounty hunter, probably because I have Mako tagging along to heal me.

Is the storyline pretty much the same for all characters, except for some class missions thrown in?

Shadow of Revan adds high end content(55-60). And new planets. The story is good. Also, Gary. Gary is the best Sith ever, and he's not even a Sith!

Also, for healing you'll end up getting Treek. Everyone does.

I think people get Treek for the flexibility of Tanking or Healing. I know quite a few that don't use Treek of course. She is really nice but not necessary. I would use HK51 more if there were more endgame armor for droids.

People get Treek because she's funny, and her intro video has her cock-punch about half a dozen people on her way to meet you. This is because she's an Ewok, and can't reach much higher... but she comes well-armed with a bowcaster, bee-bombs, a bow that shoots giant wooden arrows through fools, an auto-deploying wood-and-leather hang-glider, and a sling for deploying kolto-bombs.

Also, again, she's a murderous Ewok. She probably eats your defeated foes when you aren't looking. Also, her post-combat comments are often lol-worthy.

So. Anyone here on Progenitor?

 Psienesis wrote:
People get Treek because she's funny, and her intro video has her cock-punch about half a dozen people on her way to meet you. This is because she's an Ewok, and can't reach much higher... but she comes well-armed with a bowcaster, bee-bombs, a bow that shoots giant wooden arrows through fools, an auto-deploying wood-and-leather hang-glider, and a sling for deploying kolto-bombs.

Also, again, she's a murderous Ewok. She probably eats your defeated foes when you aren't looking. Also, her post-combat comments are often lol-worthy.

I've got Treek on almost every character and the only part of that statement that is agreeable is the description of abilities.

I am about to start playing the game for the first time since the Beta. Anyone want to join me?

I heard there's a jawa companion bounty hunters can get? is he better than the ewok? return of the jedi made me hate ewoks :(

 Necros wrote:
I heard there's a jawa companion bounty hunters can get? is he better than the ewok? return of the jedi made me hate ewoks :(

I don't know about the Ewok companion, but yes, the Bounty Hunters do get a Jawa. My "main" is a Merc, and I have to say, up through lvl 52, Blizz (the Jawa) and Mako (the human ish healer type) are quite possibly the best base game companions there are.



The Ewok is a Cartel market option, you dont HAVE to get it... same with the HK droid (only difference is HK is a quest line, not Cartel... but it's still optional)

I got my legacy to level 2 the other day, but I couldn't really find anything in the legacy menu that i wanted. And it seemed like some of the good bonuses like for companions were only for one character and not all, I thought the whole point was it unlocked stuff for your whole "family". I guess I'll wait and use it to unlock other races for alts.

I've been using Mako, she's great. I have her set for healing mode but she still fights good too. I have the droid from my ship and a new guy Galt now, who I never even bothered to take anywhere. I have Mako up to around 9000 affection now. What happens if you get someone to 10,000?

Been doing good with cybernetics now too. I never knew you could reverse engineer stuff till yesterday the first time I did it, I got a blue plan, and then the very first blue I did gave me a purple must have been good luck because it hasn't happened since. But between scavenging and underworld trading I've been able to raise that pretty easily.

 Necros wrote:


I've been using Mako, she's great. I have her set for healing mode but she still fights good too. I have the droid from my ship and a new guy Galt now, who I never even bothered to take anywhere. I have Mako up to around 9000 affection now. What happens if you get someone to 10,000?

With Mako and a male Bounty Hunter? Usually tongue-kissing.

squidhills wrote:

 Necros wrote:


I've been using Mako, she's great. I have her set for healing mode but she still fights good too. I have the droid from my ship and a new guy Galt now, who I never even bothered to take anywhere. I have Mako up to around 9000 affection now. What happens if you get someone to 10,000?

With Mako and a male Bounty Hunter? Usually tongue-kissing.

Yep... if you're a dude bounty hunter you can "marry" her, and once you've done something like that, all her dialogue options are done, and you get an account wide bonus to presence

any other kinds of bonuses? I made a girl character and I usually don't do the romancy stuff in games anyway. I kept pumping up Mako's affection cuz I thought it might make her fight better or something.

 Necros wrote:
any other kinds of bonuses? I made a girl character and I usually don't do the romancy stuff in games anyway. I kept pumping up Mako's affection cuz I thought it might make her fight better or something.

Affection helps crew skills; I don't remember precisely how/if it influences combat stats.

 Necros wrote:
any other kinds of bonuses? I made a girl character and I usually don't do the romancy stuff in games anyway. I kept pumping up Mako's affection cuz I thought it might make her fight better or something.

Only thing that really affects the companion themselves, and is a good reason to get their affection high, is in Crafting. This is because the more a companion likes you the less time a task takes, and it also raises their chances of a critical success.