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It was a small tournament organised just for some friends for a total of 10 players.
A new, major tournament is expected in April, held in the PLAY games festival. We hope to see at LEAST 20/22 players!

And yes this game deserve a lot more love and attention.

I don't like the design of the newer miniatures. The originals are fine but around the time that Imperial was released they started to become overly stylised and frankly a bit daft.

I am still interested in the game although I haven't found anyone else interested locally.

I am thinking of making an Imperial force out of the Anvil Industry's module infantry though.

Honestly... yes, some of them have strange proportions and are not fine as the first one... but they remain good anyway.

I love vehicles, skimmer is fantastic!

Hey guys,

anyone playing this in London at all? Just got back from a trip to Greece where I managed to play 4 games in 2 days and I'd love to keep it up now that I'm back!

 CptJake wrote:
Damn, that rip of of an M3 half track has some really dumb design choices. The exhaust coming right out the side will get torn off the first time you try to drive it off road unless only across nice fields and golf courses. Even in an urban environment it will get knocked around.

Yep, and that's the least of it. After all, we moved away from HT designs for a reason. That tiny turret with what looks like a 40-50mm cannon? Where does it recoil?

But this is unfortunately the trend that Prodos seem to be following these days. Their KS designs were great, albeit with some quirks like no shoulder stocks on many rifles. Later resculpts added those elements in and thickened things like the swords that were far too thin, but now they are going down a heavily-riveted junkyard future. Check this preview out:

Lot of new vehicles are coming for WZR...

 Silent Puffin? wrote:
I don't like the design of the newer miniatures. The originals are fine but around the time that Imperial was released they started to become overly stylised and frankly a bit daft.

I am still interested in the game although I haven't found anyone else interested locally.

I am thinking of making an Imperial force out of the Anvil Industry's module infantry though.

Pretty sure we have some players in the Midlands but I will ask around. As for the style, you are right but I think the biggest change (pun intended) was that of scale and proportion. My Hussars for example look like skinny teenagers compared to my Trenchers and their heads are about 50% larger. Heck, Drachen in her skull mask has a head that - volume wise - could fit twice into the Imperial NCO head lol

Hi all.

I bet there are people out there (Midlands,London, etc) who have stuff for WZR, but just don't ever play it. I am one of them.

Sadly, having been closely involved with Prodos, spending hundreds of hours of my time helping them improve their products and having co-written some of the rules for 2.0 and previous editions, I have no desire to give any of their games any more of my time and certainly none of my money. Let's just say I feel badly disappointed by their 'management' and how little respect they show to people (be it customers or collaborators).

The game mechanics are really good, many of the minis are great (although some recent designs are becoming silly), but Prodos just constantly make people walk away; there's a long list of former collaborators, backers, distributors and players who want nothing more to do with this lot ever again. Lack of any sort of strategic plan for the game, rubbish community support and plain boorishness of certain characters at Prodos means they are slowly killing off their own product, after a lot of early promise. Which is all very sad, really.

This is sad to read.

We are a community in Northern Italy and one of us collaborate with Prodos... never had a problem with them. They give us support and prize for our last tournament, listen to our advice about rules and game balance (we are discussing next errata) and of course no problems with orders and minis.

Johanxp wrote:
This is sad to read.

We are a community in Northern Italy and one of us collaborate with Prodos... never had a problem with them. They give us support and prize for our last tournament, listen to our advice about rules and game balance (we are discussing next errata) and of course no problems with orders and minis.

The problem is, you are both right and that in itself is a problem :/

Hope to see a vehicle for Wolfbanes too... maybe a truck mad max style???

Inquisitor Glokta wrote:
Hi all.

I bet there are people out there (Midlands,London, etc) who have stuff for WZR, but just don't ever play it. I am one of them.

Sadly, having been closely involved with Prodos, spending hundreds of hours of my time helping them improve their products and having co-written some of the rules for 2.0 and previous editions, I have no desire to give any of their games any more of my time and certainly none of my money. Let's just say I feel badly disappointed by their 'management' and how little respect they show to people (be it customers or collaborators).

The game mechanics are really good, many of the minis are great (although some recent designs are becoming silly), but Prodos just constantly make people walk away; there's a long list of former collaborators, backers, distributors and players who want nothing more to do with this lot ever again. Lack of any sort of strategic plan for the game, rubbish community support and plain boorishness of certain characters at Prodos means they are slowly killing off their own product, after a lot of early promise. Which is all very sad, really.

London players exist?! I am not alone!

But yeah, sad to see Prodos driving its own product to the ground. Latest round of releases makes absolutely no sense to me. Are they trying to compete with the big vehicles in 40k? Are they just printing what they personally feel like playing with? Given the current state of the game, I strongly doubt the majority of existing players will be up for spending £50 on a massive vehicle they could only use in 1000+ points games, and of course new starters will only become more intimidated. To top things off, the company's presence at Salute was pretty underwhelming: They forgot to bring along the Warzone promo minis which they had advertised (!) and they didn't even have a demo table or much in the way of painted minis. When I complained to the guy at the till that they are nowhere in the UK, he gave me a resigned look and said "yeah, it's on our plate to address in Q2 of this year". Well, it's almost May and I don't see any actions taken to promote Warzone in the UK, only a change in the release schedule to make it less friendly to new starters.

I wanted to pick up a brotherhood starter -- but Prodos wants 20$ to ship at 50$ set o.O

Oh well, I guess watch for NA places

Warzone Resurrection Armoured Assault!!

https://www.mutantchronicles.es/asalto-blindado-warzone-resurrection/

wraithgr wrote:

Inquisitor Glokta wrote:
Hi all.

I bet there are people out there (Midlands,London, etc) who have stuff for WZR, but just don't ever play it. I am one of them.

Sadly, having been closely involved with Prodos, spending hundreds of hours of my time helping them improve their products and having co-written some of the rules for 2.0 and previous editions, I have no desire to give any of their games any more of my time and certainly none of my money. Let's just say I feel badly disappointed by their 'management' and how little respect they show to people (be it customers or collaborators).

The game mechanics are really good, many of the minis are great (although some recent designs are becoming silly), but Prodos just constantly make people walk away; there's a long list of former collaborators, backers, distributors and players who want nothing more to do with this lot ever again. Lack of any sort of strategic plan for the game, rubbish community support and plain boorishness of certain characters at Prodos means they are slowly killing off their own product, after a lot of early promise. Which is all very sad, really.

London players exist?! I am not alone!

But yeah, sad to see Prodos driving its own product to the ground. Latest round of releases makes absolutely no sense to me. Are they trying to compete with the big vehicles in 40k? Are they just printing what they personally feel like playing with? Given the current state of the game, I strongly doubt the majority of existing players will be up for spending £50 on a massive vehicle they could only use in 1000+ points games, and of course new starters will only become more intimidated. To top things off, the company's presence at Salute was pretty underwhelming: They forgot to bring along the Warzone promo minis which they had advertised (!) and they didn't even have a demo table or much in the way of painted minis. When I complained to the guy at the till that they are nowhere in the UK, he gave me a resigned look and said "yeah, it's on our plate to address in Q2 of this year". Well, it's almost May and I don't see any actions taken to promote Warzone in the UK, only a change in the release schedule to make it less friendly to new starters.

No. They are only trying to expand game'so possibility with the new armoured assault. Nothing else.
Cannot comment their Salute performance by the way, I was not there.

 ncshooter426 wrote:
I wanted to pick up a brotherhood starter -- but Prodos wants 20$ to ship at 50$ set o.O

Oh well, I guess watch for NA places

Heh, welcome to the wonders of transatlantic shipping. Try to buy something from the states to ship to the EU. Just as an example, the shipping costs for the currently running Eclipse Phase 2nd edition RPG to the EU are $55. For a $60 book. And then we'd get hit here with customs and VAT costs.

Johanxp wrote:

No. They are only trying to expand game'so possibility with the new armoured assault. Nothing else.
Cannot comment their Salute performance by the way, I was not there.

Yes, I'm sure that is what they are trying to do. My point is, in a game with very few new players, pushing out a bunch of big vehicles does nothing to help the game expand other than cater to the very few players who are hardcore enough to play games at the multi-thousand point cost level. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a beginner game clocks in at 500-600 points and most people regularly play at 1000 (I've yet to play a game at that level and there is always a LOT on the board on both sides). I think the "armored assault" releases would've been fine in a couple of years, maybe even a few months if the game was gaining an audience. Right now I worry they're more likely to drive potential new players away (OK except the dragon bikes, those look cool and are likely to make it in a 500pt game).

Hmmm this seems to be in the wrong order.

A few months back at this point I remember them showing a 2 player starter box cover art and saying it was coming soon. That's going to be the way to get people into the game.

Yet I see a bunch of vehicles coming soon now. You need a solid player base before releasing bigger stuff.

Its cool, but as a potential new player, I have no interest unless I can get me and a buddy to be able to affordably get into the game with a good starter set

Anyone else still demo credits that are sitting with the company? I have something like 30 hours worth of con demos to cash in, but since the program went kaput, I'm pretty sure they are worthless.

Well, that and with this being Prodos, I do believe that yes, you're out of luck here.

Did you reclaim those hours when the Crusader program ended? I did it and they sent me the products. More than a year since the program was closed, it's a bit late ...

str00dles1 wrote:
as a potential new player, I have no interest unless I can get me and a buddy to be able to affordably get into the game with a good starter set

How about the existing faction starters and a copy of Core Protocols?

 Crenshaw el Mortificador wrote:
Did you reclaim those hours when the Crusader program ended? I did it and they sent me the products. More than a year since the program was closed, it's a bit late ...

Yeah, I know it's late. Unfortunately I was in the midst of a move when the program ended. Just found my tube of posters while cleaning and remembered the credits I had waiting. Suppose I could reach out, just didn't know if anyone actually got anything out of it.