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 kronk wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


I argue that if you want to use the argument of sincere religious belief to not have to do something then, in order to demonstrate that that belief is truly sincere, you must abide completely by the rules laid out in your religious text. You cannot pick and choose what you believe from a religion if you want to argue that you sincerely believe in it.

Agreed! I'm going to have a busy weekend!

Kill everyone that cheats: If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10).

God hates the crippled, and you should, too: People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

God's last name isn't Dammit: Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

50% polyester is 100% sin: Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Kill the Buddhists: If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

But then this raises a point which is actually in support of my argument. Why are there not people out there arguing against mixed fabrics or infidelity or any of the others as there are those arguing against gay marriage? They are all against Gods laws and God did not specify which laws are more important so why hold one above the other when it comes to petitioning for change in the law?

The answer could be that these people don't oppose gay marriage because it is against their religion but rather that they oppose gay marriage because they don't like it, without religion even having to come into it until they need something to justify that dislike.

So in that scenario can you really say with certainty that their opposition to gay marriage (or other LGBTQ issues) stems from sincere religious belief or just because they dislike gay marriage?

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


I argue that if you want to use the argument of sincere religious belief to not have to do something then, in order to demonstrate that that belief is truly sincere, you must abide completely by the rules laid out in your religious text. You cannot pick and choose what you believe from a religion if you want to argue that you sincerely believe in it.

Agreed! I'm going to have a busy weekend!

Kill everyone that cheats: If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10).

God hates the crippled, and you should, too: People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

God's last name isn't Dammit: Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

50% polyester is 100% sin: Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Kill the Buddhists: If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

But then this raises a point which is actually in support of my argument. Why are there not people out there arguing against mixed fabrics or infidelity or any of the others as there are those arguing against gay marriage? They are all against Gods laws and God did not specify which laws are more important so why hold one above the other when it comes to petitioning for change in the law?

Don't ask me! I was agreeing with you. I just bought some Redbull and a new bat. Let's get some sinners!

sirlynchmob wrote:

so what percentage is required to be considered a true christian?

Well, I bought some "wool" dress socks the other day day that turned out to be only 25% actual wool.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


I argue that if you want to use the argument of sincere religious belief to not have to do something then, in order to demonstrate that that belief is truly sincere, you must abide completely by the rules laid out in your religious text. You cannot pick and choose what you believe from a religion if you want to argue that you sincerely believe in it.

Agreed! I'm going to have a busy weekend!

Kill everyone that cheats: If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10).

God hates the crippled, and you should, too: People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

God's last name isn't Dammit: Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

50% polyester is 100% sin: Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Kill the Buddhists: If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

But then this raises a point which is actually in support of my argument. Why are there not people out there arguing against mixed fabrics or infidelity or any of the others as there are those arguing against gay marriage? They are all against Gods laws and God did not specify which laws are more important so why hold one above the other when it comes to petitioning for change in the law?

The answer could be that these people don't oppose gay marriage because it is against their religion but rather that they oppose gay marriage because they don't like it, without religion even having to come into it until they need something to justify that dislike.

So in that scenario can you really say with certainty that their opposition to gay marriage (or other LGBTQ issues) stems from sincere religious belief or just because they dislike gay marriage?

There is no law about multi-fabric clothing for Gentiles. Stop bringing up Leviticus.

Homosexuality is a sin. I don't hate gay people, I hate their decision to be gay.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
decision to be gay.

What?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

There is no law about multi-fabric clothing for Gentiles. Stop bringing up Leviticus.

Homosexuality is a sin. I don't hate gay people, I hate their decision to be gay.

They didn't decide to be gay.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
decision to be gay.

What?

Its a decision. I would know...

It's not a decision. I would know...

 MrDwhitey wrote:
It's not a decision. I would know...

This. Refusing to acknowledge your sexuality does not mean that it is a choice. That's just called repression.

I don't think we're actually discussing anything new or ground that we haven't gone over umpteen times before .