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I pretty much exclusively watch HeirofCarthage, so it was a bit painful waiting for him to start sharing videos, since I think he was the last of the major youtubers to do so. Holy damn though, the game looks great.
I cannot wait for Thursday.
Unfortunately, due to my current living situation, I'll have to wait until Thursday evening before I can even start downloading it, which means it's likely Friday afternoon I can start playing
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Saturday morning for me. They seem to have really put an effort into this. I've watched some of their live streams and it's been enjoyable, can't wait to feel some salty tears as game presents the most incompetent of the Asur generals for me to choose.
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I can't believe that with all of the game play we've been able to see so far, there are still people out there acting like this is nothing more then an "expansion" of Warhammer 1.
Knight wrote: Saturday morning for me. They seem to have really put an effort into this. I've watched some of their live streams and it's been enjoyable, can't wait to feel some salty tears as game presents the most incompetent of the Asur generals for me to choose.
Apparently if you don't spend influence on them, they always come with a negative trait. Some traits are ones you can ignore or avoid, however. I saw one that had a penalty to raiding income, which for a Tyrion centered game (or high elves in general) isn't much an issue.
One thing that does concern me a little- a relative lack of Dark Elf videos, and I haven't seen anything at all with Morathi (except the co-op, and the Morathi portion went badly, but largely because of the player). I'm wondering if she's seen as a detriment. Part of it is, I suspect the chaos corruption. But also, for the other factions, each has a spellcaster lord and a melee lord (though obviously Skrolk isn't bad in melee either). Dark elves get all of that in Malekith, and Morathi could just come off looking superfluous in comparison.
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djones520 wrote: I can't believe that with all of the game play we've been able to see so far, there are still people out there acting like this is nothing more then an "expansion" of Warhammer 1.
That, and how for every social media post that CA makes, there is some dunce crying about how they've abandoned historicals. Despite CA being very clear that a separate team is working on the next unnamed historical title, as well as another team making small focused historical content.
Boggles the mind how folks can be so clueless.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
I will buy early to get Norsca, but not play immediately in all likelihood as I need to upgrade.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
The recommended specs haven't changed much at all. Just the graphics card:
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 4GB | AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB @1080p, rather than TW1's recommended was a GTX 760 (2GB) or Radeon 270X (2GB).
In theory the Min specs say you can get away with a 1 Gig graphics card of an older gen than the recommended specs for TW1. Not sure I believe that though.
other than a slight bump in storage space (60 rather than 35 GB), that's it. Same processor and RAM requirements, which doesn't surprise me. A lot of the changes for 2 are graphical stuff- lots of stuff in the background during battles, and dynamic clouds which affect light levels. And a general uptick in details on the models and campaign map.
But if you want Norsca for TW1 as a preorder bonus, you've only got a couple days.
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TW:W1 keeps telling me I've run out of video card memory with my 2GB GTX960, so I guess they needed to bump up the recommended V-RAM specs even if graphically the new game is much the same as the old one.
I'm tempted to upgrade my card, but the 3GB GTX1060 is probably not enough V-RAM these days and the 6GB version is much more than I want to spend.
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Thanks for the posts about when it drops. Tonight I will start my preload and Thursday morning I will probably get up crazy early . Cannot wait to slice up some baddies with Tyrion.
Voss wrote: One thing that does concern me a little- a relative lack of Dark Elf videos, and I haven't seen anything at all with Morathi (except the co-op, and the Morathi portion went badly, but largely because of the player). I'm wondering if she's seen as a detriment. Part of it is, I suspect the chaos corruption. But also, for the other factions, each has a spellcaster lord and a melee lord (though obviously Skrolk isn't bad in melee either). Dark elves get all of that in Malekith, and Morathi could just come off looking superfluous in comparison.
Well, yes. They've been going through all of them in turn. I was more talking about something authentic from people playing the game, not the official-screwing-around PR stream.
Went fairly quickly for me, but the download was only 25, and the game wants 60 gigs of space. Not sure if they just compressed it really well (which seems odd for something through Steam) or if there is another big chunk waiting for Thursday.
I pre-ordered on saturday and pre-loaded today (technically yesterday). So yeah all set and ready to go. I work thursday but it'll be ready to blow me away when i get home provided there are no unforeseen consequences. May have to restart steam as sometimes that prevents game from loading properly on first time playthrough after set-up (i'm looking at you 'Endless Space 2' and possibly even 'Xcom 2').
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Knight wrote: Saturday morning for me. They seem to have really put an effort into this. I've watched some of their live streams and it's been enjoyable, can't wait to feel some salty tears as game presents the most incompetent of the Asur generals for me to choose.
Apparently if you don't spend influence on them, they always come with a negative trait. Some traits are ones you can ignore or avoid, however. I saw one that had a penalty to raiding income, which for a Tyrion centered game (or high elves in general) isn't much an issue.
One thing that does concern me a little- a relative lack of Dark Elf videos, and I haven't seen anything at all with Morathi (except the co-op, and the Morathi portion went badly, but largely because of the player). I'm wondering if she's seen as a detriment. Part of it is, I suspect the chaos corruption. But also, for the other factions, each has a spellcaster lord and a melee lord (though obviously Skrolk isn't bad in melee either). Dark elves get all of that in Malekith, and Morathi could just come off looking superfluous in comparison.
Voss wrote: Went fairly quickly for me, but the download was only 25, and the game wants 60 gigs of space. Not sure if they just compressed it really well (which seems odd for something through Steam) or if there is another big chunk waiting for Thursday.
I'm just about to download the preload and it says "Disk space required: 38487 MB", so maybe the 60GB requirement was just leaving a bit of wiggle room. The first game according to Steam is using 35572 MB.
Knight wrote: Saturday morning for me. They seem to have really put an effort into this. I've watched some of their live streams and it's been enjoyable, can't wait to feel some salty tears as game presents the most incompetent of the Asur generals for me to choose.
Apparently if you don't spend influence on them, they always come with a negative trait. Some traits are ones you can ignore or avoid, however. I saw one that had a penalty to raiding income, which for a Tyrion centered game (or high elves in general) isn't much an issue.
One thing that does concern me a little- a relative lack of Dark Elf videos, and I haven't seen anything at all with Morathi (except the co-op, and the Morathi portion went badly, but largely because of the player). I'm wondering if she's seen as a detriment. Part of it is, I suspect the chaos corruption. But also, for the other factions, each has a spellcaster lord and a melee lord (though obviously Skrolk isn't bad in melee either). Dark elves get all of that in Malekith, and Morathi could just come off looking superfluous in comparison.
Campaign balance is unimportant. Morathi must be able to justify her points cost in multiplayer battle but I have zero problems if she is an inferior lord choice to Malekith in campaign. She just then becomes a difficulty challenge, also Morathi fail-scheming is perfect for the lore. I can forgive that she doesnt start in Ghrond.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
She's also just rather bad. She brings more penalties than benefits, and her skill tree is a mess. For some reason she has abilities that give bonuses to things like dark riders, shades and assassins, and she doesn't have dark magic, just a mix of shadow and death magic. Only one quest battle as well.
My problem isn't with 'balance' but whether or not she brings anything interesting to the campaign. Storywise, pairing them together makes sense for the cutscenes, but much less so for the game itself.
One of the other dark elf characters would have made a more satisfying gameplay alternative, especially given how much of a mess her skill tree is. Hellebron in particular is a standout for having her own motives and goals
Morathi brings Morathi to the campaign, she is rather counter-productive to the Druchii cause, and always was. Actually depicting that properly rather than making her sub-faction a standard sorc build is the braver option.
All the self imposed debuffs just make her fun. I have watched both Morathi plays so far and think she is more than up to the job. Her starts have so far been mishandled, the free assassin character is to make up for the fact that she paid all her build points into skank and cant fight other characters. Hydra at start is great and I think her army needs to lowball builds and rush her initial province then restock later with shielded crossbows and Bleakswords only later.
The corruption mechanic is painful, but forces her to be played almost like Skaven, constantly moving on after soiling her doorstep.
Malekith is super powerful and has a great start location and mechanic, Morathi brings the hard challenge. I am willing to wait for Hellebron for an average play character.
Besides Morathi is so nasty, she's got harpies.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Orlanth wrote: Morathi brings Morathi to the campaign, she is rather counter-productive to the Druchii cause, and always was. Actually depicting that properly rather than making her sub-faction a standard sorc build is the braver option.
All the self imposed debuffs just make her fun. I have watched both Morathi plays so far and think she is more than up to the job. Her starts have so far been mishandled, the free assassin character is to make up for the fact that she paid all her build points into skank and cant fight other characters. Hydra at start is great and I think her army needs to lowball builds and rush her initial province then restock later with shielded crossbows and Bleakswords only later.
The corruption mechanic is painful, but forces her to be played almost like Skaven, constantly moving on after soiling her doorstep.
Malekith is super powerful and has a great start location and mechanic, Morathi brings the hard challenge. I am willing to wait for Hellebron for an average play character.
Besides Morathi is so nasty, she's got harpies.
that last bit made me exalt you. good pun
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Orlanth wrote: Morathi brings Morathi to the campaign, she is rather counter-productive to the Druchii cause, and always was. Actually depicting that properly rather than making her sub-faction a standard sorc build is the braver option.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Her selection of spells is thematically weird (not being the signature dark magic), but they're good spells. She isn't 'counter-productive' at all. She gets along well with all the dark elves around her, and her starting position is actually pretty good- she can turtle pretty hard in the mountains and then swoop down on Mazdamundi for a second ritual site.
Beyond the initial incursions from beastmen and public order problems, her starting position actually looks better than Malekith's.
Being a sorcerer build isn't a problem either. That was true of several characters in TW1, and is true for Teclis and Mazda as well.... but they still get their signature abilities.
All the self imposed debuffs just make her fun. I have watched both Morathi plays so far and think she is more than up to the job. Her starts have so far been mishandled, the free assassin character is to make up for the fact that she paid all her build points into skank and cant fight other characters. Hydra at start is great and I think her army needs to lowball builds and rush her initial province then restock later with shielded crossbows and Bleakswords only later.
Definitely mishandling by the players. The debuffs turned out not to be that big a deal- chaos corruption has essentially no effect on the faction and actually turns into a defense, inflicting attrition against attackers (and no attrition to Morathi's forces, which was my concern).
The bigger problem is unlike everyone else, she doesn't get a big array of benefits for her army (compare to Kroq-gar, who brings a global 10% upkeep reduction for his army, an additional 50% upkeep reduction for saurus, and has skill picks that reduce upkeep even more).
A majority of the characters bring a monster, and a free character isn't unique by any means.
Morathi brings the hard challenge.
Watching the videos with her in it finally, I'm not really convinced of that. She needs to spend some time sorting out her provinces, but that can often be a big benefit- those extra easy fights from rebels are a good way to farm levels, money and slaves, without affecting reputation with other factions). I certainly used that with the other two Bretonnian factions in TW1 with the orc event.
The big problem is the character doesn't feel like Morathi- the magic is simply wrong (she's the queen of dark magic, but here uses shadow and death), and she's handing out weird buffs to random units. She isn't counter productive or 'fail-scheming.' Just a bit inferior, themeless and lacking in the abilities she should be specializing in. A generic sorceress lord would be bringing more to the table.
Eh this sucks. Game is out in like less than 2 hours and i have to go to sleep for work tomorrow. Otherwise i'd power through and play a little. I could use the sleep for work tomorrow though. Well guess i gotta wait till 16-17 or so hours from now. Least it'll be a good end to the week and on the plus side no work for the rest of the week for me so i can power through.
