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I wonder if there will be some more Not Doctor Who figures from Heresy Miniatures.

Apparently there is a major new villain species coming next year, The Misogynoids.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Apparently there is a major new villain species coming next year, The Misogynoids.

Indeed, the most peculiar of enemies, being both the greatest and lamest threat to the Doctor ever.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Apparently there is a major new villain species coming next year, The Misogynoids.

They'll be easily defeated though when they refuse to acknowledge the Doctor at all and keep assuming her male companion is the one in charge, allowing her to carry out he devilishly clever plan unopposed.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bradley-walsh-revealed-doctor-who-11028647?ICID=FB_mirror_main


...errmm .. well...

yeah.

Didn't see that one coming.

He would be an interesting choice. But just like the 13 casting I'm not going to put too much faith in the tabloid rumours until there's something official.

'BBC casting is secret but a source said...'

"A source" is code for 'made it up!

Yup. Remember how a 'source' claimed Kris Marshall has been cast? And Russell Tovey before that?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41716877
So the Bradley walsh rumour was right. Looks like it could be a busy Tardis unless some of them are stay at home regulars like Rose's Mum and Micky.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41928500




... so that's what culottes are eh ?

Personally, I'm not a fan. - I kinda preferred the "noir detective" sorta look in the teaser.

I know there's all sorts of Whovian nerding out about the outfit and so on. Personally, it just makes me think of a nursery age childrens TV presenter.

"Right kids, lets do some fingerpainting before we get exterminated by daleks."
"Yay....!"

.. or we could not jump the gun eh ?



still least that's the daftest thing that could


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/01/story-behind-story-doctor-magazine-puffer-fish-acrostic/ -- language warning ahoy !


Oh. seems not.

Yeah not really sold on the outfit from this photo. Maybe it will look better in motion? I've seen some really dynamic fan art already where it looks pretty good.

I instantly tried to convince myself I didn't dislike it, I"m sorry to say, which means I disllike it.

It was hard to say why, but thinking about it more, it's because it looks like the kind of outfit a styling team would come up with for Doctor Who as a woman after thinking really hard for a long time with lots of mood boards and stuff about how to come up with a cool kind of outfit for Doctor Who as a woman.

Does that make any kind of sense?

Trouble is, it doesn't say anything about the character of this Doctor. With Smith's tweed jackets, braces and bow tie you get 'eccentric professor'. With Tennant's sharp suits, you get 'suave action hero'. Ecclestone's jacket is cliched, but conveys a sense of toughness and roughness that characterised his Doctor. Capaldi's attire often called back to that of Pertwee and Hartnell, a gentleman adventurer/wise old man combo.

This new look says nothing. It looks like a collection of clothes pulled from a charity shop sale with no thought as to how they act as visual touchstones for character traits. It's lazy design. I'm genuinely surprised at some of the positive reaction to it I've seen elsewhere online.

 Paradigm wrote:
Trouble is, it doesn't say anything about the character of this Doctor. With Smith's tweed jackets, braces and bow tie you get 'eccentric professor'. With Tennant's sharp suits, you get 'suave action hero'. Ecclestone's jacket is cliched, but conveys a sense of toughness and roughness that characterised his Doctor. Capaldi's attire often called back to that of Pertwee and Hartnell, a gentleman adventurer/wise old man combo.

This new look says nothing. It looks like a collection of clothes pulled from a charity shop sale with no thought as to how they act as visual touchstones for character traits. It's lazy design. I'm genuinely surprised at some of the positive reaction to it I've seen elsewhere online.

I think this is more a callback to some of the more whimsical, thrown together Old Who costumes. Think anyone between 4 and 7. It wasn't until 8 and the reboot that they got back into 'serious' outfits again.

Also, for me, it has the feeling of a man trying to put together a female outfit from his closet. Which is, come to think of it, exactly what is happening in universe.

How is it, they managed to dress Missy in a way which was considered female dress, while being consistent with the character, yet they can’t do the same for the doctor. This photo makes it feel more like a reboot of the show, rather than a continuation

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I instantly tried to convince myself I didn't dislike it, I"m sorry to say, which means I disllike it.

It was hard to say why, but thinking about it more, it's because it looks like the kind of outfit a styling team would come up with for Doctor Who as a woman after thinking really hard for a long time with lots of mood boards and stuff about how to come up with a cool kind of outfit for Doctor Who as a woman.

Does that make any kind of sense?

Not really.

It just looks like they're trying to blend several elements of previous doctors (suspenders; shirt; overcoat and incongruous shoes) into a single outfit and it doesn't mesh well.

'as a woman, as a woman' doesn't seem relevant, it's just too much nostalgia wrapped together in a single outfit that just looks weird to modern eyes.

The one thing that does kinda spring to mind is "Blue Peter presenter".

The funny thing is I'm now seeing a lot of the other "side" being outraged by that. So the Mentwits are outraged by a female Doctor, and the Femtwits are outraged she looks like a children's telly presenter(something about it either being infantilising or pigeonholing based on gender roles or both tbh I drifted off). And the "Serious Whovians" are annoyed they're casting soap stars.

I mean it's not a cast iron guarantee but usually when something falls into the middle of a Venn diagram of hatred from groups like that I end up liking it, so yay?

I like it, though my initial impression is that I preferred the look in the teaser from a while back.

Definitely more reminiscent of some of the looks in the old Who (without being as ott), which is probably why a lot of new-Who fans are having issues with it.

Also I must say, I'm really sick of seeing all the stupid posts of people getting 'offended' and outraged that the Doctor is now a woman whenever a new announcement or whatever comes up, especially with much of the vitriol they're spewing.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Also I must say, I'm really sick of seeing all the stupid posts of people getting 'offended' and outraged that the Doctor is now a woman whenever a new announcement or whatever comes up, especially with much of the vitriol they're spewing.

I was a little surprised that someone reposted it on this page of the thread.

It’s.....it’s clothes?

Clothes. Stuff we wear to keep us warm, and sometimes express tribal inclinations and membership.

Clothes.

Not a script. Not a story arc. Not a snippet of acting demonstrated.

Clothes.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s.....it’s clothes?

Clothes. Stuff we wear to keep us warm, and sometimes express tribal inclinations and membership.

Clothes.

Not a script. Not a story arc. Not a snippet of acting demonstrated.

Clothes.

It's not clothes! It's art!


Personally I think the outfit looks a little daft.

Yeah, not really a fan.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s.....it’s clothes?

Clothes. Stuff we wear to keep us warm, and sometimes express tribal inclinations and membership.

Clothes.

Not a script. Not a story arc. Not a snippet of acting demonstrated.

Clothes.

It's not clothes, it's production design. It's an important part, a central part of the look and feel of the Doctor Who "universe". Clothes maketh the woman.

I think it might work better when we see it in movement.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s.....it’s clothes?

Clothes. Stuff we wear to keep us warm, and sometimes express tribal inclinations and membership.

Clothes.

Not a script. Not a story arc. Not a snippet of acting demonstrated.

Clothes.

But these clothes, like any in any piece of drama/theatre/media are always chosen. They're not just thrown together, especially now.

They're used as a method of storytelling, telling us something about the character - something this really doesn't either paint a good picture of, or simply fails in that respect.

Sure, it's not part of their acting, or their story, but it IS part of their character - even day-to-day people in real life.

 welshhoppo wrote:
It's not clothes! It's art!


Personally I think the outfit looks a little daft.

Good thing the doctor has never been known to dress a little daft:

 pretre wrote:

 welshhoppo wrote:
It's not clothes! It's art!


Personally I think the outfit looks a little daft.

Good thing the doctor has never been known to dress a little daft:

Spoiler:

Except that's silly. Not daft. It actually fits well together and despite being flamboyant, it makes sense.

This one just looks like she was rummaging through the Tardis's wardrobe and discovered none of her clothes for anymore because she has a smaller body than her predecessor, so she had to use a pair of Matt Smith's Braces to hold her trousers up.

It doesn't flow dammit! It's half "serious 80's padded shoulder strong independent woman" and half "clown pants."

 reds8n wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41928500

Spoiler:

... so that's what culottes are eh ?

For the first time ever, Kronk can say: I'd feth Dr. Who.

There. Your first positive review.

 welshhoppo wrote:
Except that's silly. Not daft. It actually fits well together and despite being flamboyant, it makes sense.

This one just looks like she was rummaging through the Tardis's wardrobe and discovered none of her clothes for anymore because she has a smaller body than her predecessor, so she had to use a pair of Matt Smith's Braces to hold her trousers up.

It doesn't flow dammit! It's half "serious 80's padded shoulder strong independent woman" and half "clown pants."

The line between silly and daft is unclear.

Also, I think that the second sentence is just about exactly what happened. She has a dude's wardrobe and tried to come up with a feminine outfit out of it.