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 Luciferian wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:



What if new sisters came out in plastic and they were more expensive than the old metals.... Would they still be as popular? Given that this is a very real possibility here.

If they were more than $80 for a squad of battle sisters I don't think GW could safely sleep with both eyes closed

Come to australia, we have pie..... and gw prices. It's a very real question.

What shipping debacle? The only problem I saw was the White Dwarf clearing house going tits up in the U.S. So I don't see anything that would prevent such a release especially when everything else came out just fine. It's not like they make their minis in another country.

 Torga_DW wrote:
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Come to australia, we have pie..... and gw prices. It's a very real question.

Every time I open the GW web store it brings up the Australian prices and I give up the hobby. Still, it would be pretty horrible if they were more expensive than the metal sets in any currency!

 Torga_DW wrote:

Come to australia, we have pie..... and gw prices. It's a very real question.

Our average wage is a lot higher than most other countries (So GW's costs to operate in Australia are also higher than in a lot of other countries). Hence, GW will charge more in comparison to other countries (on top of the dollar value). For example, a SoB heavy weapon is 8.7 pounds in Britten (around $15 AUD). However, in Australia the exact same model is $23 AUD. Why the extra? Because running cost in Australia + shipping etc is a lot higher Downunder in comparison to say selling in the USA (Same model costs $14 US dollars = $18 AUD). (8.7 pounds = $11.50 US dollars)


We pay more for most things in Australia, why would GW be any different?

(Exchange rates used are those current at time of posting).

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

Come to australia, we have pie..... and gw prices. It's a very real question.

Our average wage is a lot higher than most other countries (So GW's costs to operate in Australia are also higher than in a lot of other countries). Hence, GW will charge more in comparison to other countries (on top of the dollar value). We pay more for most things in Australia, why would GW be any different?

Our expenses are a lot higher than most other countries too, so it sort of balances out. As for why GW would be any different? Well it would be nice, but can't really argue this one. Most things double in price when they hit our borders. Kind of sucks though.

Some of our expenses are (but on the whole we come out ahead I think in the argument of more expense but higher wage). For GW, I think we end up paying the same as the rest of the world in comparison. I don't find GW expensive, it's not cheap but it is way cheaper than some other hobbies.

EDIT: Why ebay is really good for armies, because get other country prices and even cheaper. Though, I prefer to buy direct from GW to support them, I have bought a lot from ebay and is way cheaper (especially with metal models which are easy to strip).

Well, i just look at things that originate from overseas. Computer games are a good example of this, they're usually about $50 american or $100 australian. American works out cheaper. But my go-to rant involves my watch. It costs ~$400 australian to buy it in australia. But i didn't, i bought it online from america and it costs ~$200 australian to buy it and have it sent over. On small items, it may not be so noticable. But there comes a point where you have to say - hot damn. GW stuff is at that point. So is cigarettes, but that's another story.

It is not that hard GW!


Just give us this in plastic! JUST DO IT!

Its because you didn't use an Australian retailer etc (they don't have to pay Australian wages, taxes (cause under the threshold) etc so can mark it down).
I'm not a business person but I think this is happening around the world with the internet age/international shipping being easy.

Personally if I can afford to pay more I will order from an Australian company (or someone who operates in Australia so they are paying for Australian employees) over paying a little less for the same product. However, I get what you are saying why pay more if get same for less?

It is all down to your prerogative of what you can afford.
GW example, I could order a DW Kill team box set for $60 from my local GW. Or I could order the exact same box from an ebay store for $55 (includes postage to my door). If I wanted 4 I would go into my local and order 2 (cost me $10 extra but gets him/her sales and supports the hobby I like) and would order 2 from ebay.

Doesn't cost me much, but gives GW some money (they made the hobby I play), supports the local store and gets me some stuff cheaper. Everyone wins.

(Obviously I would get the get started DW set for $140 each x2 but is an example)

However, just my perspective.

SC

But.... the watch wasn't made in australia.... It was made in america, or more likely china. The australian merchants weren't charging more because they had to pay to have it created here. It was sitting on a shelf in their stores, or in their warehouse, and that doesn't cost 200% of it's original price. I'm happy to support australian when it's made in australia.... but it's not, its made cheaper overseas and marked up 200% when it crosses australian borders. Anyhoo, a long standing rant of mine and probably off topic.

edit: no, i'm on a rant and there's no stopping me! We know what the cost to create it is in america vs australia.... that's the rate of exchange. Yes, they get lesser income there, and have lesser expenses. And when you translate that into australian dollars, the value is $200. Yet to buy the same thing, made overseas and merely shipped here and stored in a warehouse..... costs $400. That's not paying it's fair worth - that's the FU tax you get for living in australia. /rant

 Torga_DW wrote:
But.... the watch wasn't made in australia.... It was made in america, or more likely china. The australian merchants weren't charging more because they had to pay to have it created here. It was sitting on a shelf in their stores, or in their warehouse, and that doesn't cost 200% of it's original price. I'm happy to support australian when it's made in australia.... but it's not, its made cheaper overseas and marked up 200% when it crosses australian borders. Anyhoo, a long standing rant of mine and probably off topic.

edit: no, i'm on a rant and there's no stopping me! We know what the cost to create it is in america vs australia.... that's the rate of exchange. Yes, they get lesser income there, and have lesser expenses. And when you translate that into australian dollars, the value is $200. Yet to buy the same thing, made overseas and merely shipped here and stored in a warehouse..... costs $400. That's not paying it's fair worth - that's the FU tax you get for living in australia. /rant

I think you misunderstood... I said retailer not developer (someone who sells products not creates them). Any hoo, I think this is way off topic as well so won't comment on this aspect anymore.

I think SoB will only get rules/strateg/warlord/relics etc no new models+ what said before:

Another generic HQ (which I think is pretty much guaranteed) Either will be a Prioress (Like a Chapter master upgrade) or a Palatine (maybe re-roll wounds of 1 or something similar).
Weapons:
Cheaper eviscerator (12pts)
Cheaper melta weapons (heck I would say cheaper melta/multi, flamer/heavy and heavy bolters cause we specialise in the three and that's all)
Infantry:
Canoness: jump pack (17pts)
Imagifier down in points (35pts)
Celestian squad: give them some cc options or something
Repentia: can advance and still charge, make their SoF re-rollable
Vehicles:
Simulacrum Imperialis upgrade to vehicles (35 pts): As in still does exact same thing as a imagifier (AoF on any SoB infantry within 6" on a 4+ etc) just can be upgraded that a vehicle can cast it on the SoB infantry.
Exorcist: D6 damage


However, it's in the air, let's hope GW sub comes to pressure and makes plastic (so long as my existing army looks coherent).

SC

 Melissia wrote:
I'd prefer something more platemail lke, but as long as it's similar to what the redone Celestine (as opposed to the obnoxious nipple-spike canoness model, or the skull-fethed stupid heeled "not actually wearing power armor" blanchian crap) I don't mind. It's quite an iconic design for Sisters, so I'm not gonna be upset at no major changes to the armor design.

I will be upset at no major changes to our army list. We really need new units, new -stuff-.

I actually like that "Skull-fethed stupid heeled" model

drbored 740222 9636037 wrote:
A. OF COURSE POPULARITY OF SISTERS IS DOWN, THEY HAVE THE OLDEST LINE THAT'S STILL METAL. Polls involving current players of 40k are going to put Sisters dead last because of the cost of getting into the army and the age of the models. Update those models and they'll shoot up the list immediately.

+1

Who is gonna like an army they don't play and can't afford and is shown to need saving or be rather weak at times.

drbored wrote:

 Dr. Temujin wrote:
I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a GW store. He said Sisters of Battle are not happening anytime soon. I quote:

"Yeah, i dont see them being worked on until after everything has a Codex"

The reasons for this are a, once again, "financial risk" atm, because there's not enough guarantee that enough people would actually buy plastic Sisters, despite all the wishlisting, hard-core players, and newer players waiting to buy some.

 Luciferian wrote:
...Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

This. Right now, there's still not enough support for them to be considered a good trade of time and resources.

As others have stated in this thread and many, many others, I'd drop everything I was working on hobby-wise if GeeDubs suddenly announced a new codex with a brand-new line of shiny plastic. Until then, I'm more than happy starting up a Death Guard army.

A. OF COURSE POPULARITY OF SISTERS IS DOWN, THEY HAVE THE OLDEST LINE THAT'S STILL METAL. Polls involving current players of 40k are going to put Sisters dead last because of the cost of getting into the army and the age of the models. Update those models and they'll shoot up the list immediately.

B. Dark Eldar were a 'financial risk' as well, but ended up being a MASSIVE success. Also, Primaris and Death Guard, their two poster children, have just been released, which means GW is floating on a huge boat of cash. Now would be the time to take a financial risk because they've got the Primaris/Death Guard cushion to catch them if it fails. Waiting until all of the other Codexes have been released is the WORST time to take a risk because other factions that aren't as popular would have been updated and wouldn't have earned them as much money, meaning there's no 'cash boat' to float on any more.

People talkin' about business like they know how it works, smh.

Dude, calm down. I'm not trying to refute any points, just passing along what my friend said.

 Dr. Temujin wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Dr. Temujin wrote:
I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a GW store. He said Sisters of Battle are not happening anytime soon. I quote:

"Yeah, i dont see them being worked on until after everything has a Codex"

The reasons for this are a, once again, "financial risk" atm, because there's not enough guarantee that enough people would actually buy plastic Sisters, despite all the wishlisting, hard-core players, and newer players waiting to buy some.

 Luciferian wrote:
...Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

This. Right now, there's still not enough support for them to be considered a good trade of time and resources.

As others have stated in this thread and many, many others, I'd drop everything I was working on hobby-wise if GeeDubs suddenly announced a new codex with a brand-new line of shiny plastic. Until then, I'm more than happy starting up a Death Guard army.

A. OF COURSE POPULARITY OF SISTERS IS DOWN, THEY HAVE THE OLDEST LINE THAT'S STILL METAL. Polls involving current players of 40k are going to put Sisters dead last because of the cost of getting into the army and the age of the models. Update those models and they'll shoot up the list immediately.

B. Dark Eldar were a 'financial risk' as well, but ended up being a MASSIVE success. Also, Primaris and Death Guard, their two poster children, have just been released, which means GW is floating on a huge boat of cash. Now would be the time to take a financial risk because they've got the Primaris/Death Guard cushion to catch them if it fails. Waiting until all of the other Codexes have been released is the WORST time to take a risk because other factions that aren't as popular would have been updated and wouldn't have earned them as much money, meaning there's no 'cash boat' to float on any more.

People talkin' about business like they know how it works, smh.

Dude, calm down. I'm not trying to refute any points, just passing along what my friend said.

Sorry boss, I'm very passionate about this topic because I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Sisters of Battle. I feel like if I wish hard enough, they'll suddenly appear.

This isn't the first time I've done this either, to be honest. At least two separate occassions in the past when Sisters rumors were coming about (one about 4 years ago, another like 6 or 7 years ago) and I got similarly wrapped up in this hurricane of hype.

It's been a long, exhausting road to nowhere.

The funny thing is that even just with the Index, there are a few Sisters lists that are currently quite viable, using Celestine obviously, but also using Repressors and Immolators, and lots and lots of Battle Sisters. Even with their 3+ save, Battle Sisters are cheaper points-wise than Scions, and can pump out a ton of shots with Storm Bolters and the extra shooting Act of Faith. A blob squad of 20 Sisters is real hard to shift. But who has 250 dollars to get that blob and enough Storm Bolters to make it? With that same 250 you can get the Dark Imperium set, a Redemptor, and a few other bits and bobs for a brand new Primaris force.

This is why Sisters aren't popular. Even if GW had all of their options available in some metal model, they're still a difficult faction to get into.

drbored wrote:

 Dr. Temujin wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Dr. Temujin wrote:
I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a GW store. He said Sisters of Battle are not happening anytime soon. I quote:

"Yeah, i dont see them being worked on until after everything has a Codex"

The reasons for this are a, once again, "financial risk" atm, because there's not enough guarantee that enough people would actually buy plastic Sisters, despite all the wishlisting, hard-core players, and newer players waiting to buy some.

 Luciferian wrote:
...Every poll or survey I've ever seen has the popularity of Sisters loafing around last place, usually tied or trading around with Khorne Daemonkin and Harlequins. Though that might be reason for hope in itself because Harlequins got new models and a codex last edition.

This. Right now, there's still not enough support for them to be considered a good trade of time and resources.

As others have stated in this thread and many, many others, I'd drop everything I was working on hobby-wise if GeeDubs suddenly announced a new codex with a brand-new line of shiny plastic. Until then, I'm more than happy starting up a Death Guard army.

A. OF COURSE POPULARITY OF SISTERS IS DOWN, THEY HAVE THE OLDEST LINE THAT'S STILL METAL. Polls involving current players of 40k are going to put Sisters dead last because of the cost of getting into the army and the age of the models. Update those models and they'll shoot up the list immediately.

B. Dark Eldar were a 'financial risk' as well, but ended up being a MASSIVE success. Also, Primaris and Death Guard, their two poster children, have just been released, which means GW is floating on a huge boat of cash. Now would be the time to take a financial risk because they've got the Primaris/Death Guard cushion to catch them if it fails. Waiting until all of the other Codexes have been released is the WORST time to take a risk because other factions that aren't as popular would have been updated and wouldn't have earned them as much money, meaning there's no 'cash boat' to float on any more.

People talkin' about business like they know how it works, smh.

Dude, calm down. I'm not trying to refute any points, just passing along what my friend said.

Sorry boss, I'm very passionate about this topic because I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Sisters of Battle. I feel like if I wish hard enough, they'll suddenly appear.

This isn't the first time I've done this either, to be honest. At least two separate occassions in the past when Sisters rumors were coming about (one about 4 years ago, another like 6 or 7 years ago) and I got similarly wrapped up in this hurricane of hype.

It's been a long, exhausting road to nowhere.

OMG have you even played SoB... 4 years...7 years... SoB are an endless Crusade... (I bought them when they first came out and I walked 7miles in the snow to get a sandwich... (seriously I did collect them when they first came out and my neck beard is long)... DO I care if get plastic no (because I have collected them so long I have every unit I want, + landraiders converted and flyers etc even a bloody baneblade... do I want more rules yes, models.. meh.. but if it.. (edit to crass, just hope they make plastic to make people happy).

@dr bored: No worries, I get where you're coming from.

And yeah, it's a sad Catch-22 situation with Sisters. There's obviously support for Sisters, but GW wants to see people buy more of the current models first. But the current models are metal, old, and, most importantly, damn-near prohibitively expensive.

Not sure about the Dark Eldar thing or why they got a nice reboot, though. I'll have to ask him about that.

As my GW friend has told me before, they simply follow the money. If a faction doesn't show a lot of revenue, it won't get as much support.

What's wild to me is how freakin' easy it would be.

You could make....five? units with a single kit.

You need: Three special weapons (melta, flamer, storm bolter), maybe 2 of each option.

Two heavy weapons (Multi-melta, heavy bolter), 2 of each.

10 bolters.

and a couple sets of melee weapons/pistols (bolt pistol/hand flamer, power sword, power maul, condemnor boltgun)

Make that kit, with a multitude of head swaps, and you've got Celestians, Dominions, Retributors, Battle Sisters, and a basic walking Canoness in one single box. Throw in the imagifier and the Dialogus if you include a banner arm with swappable top.

Then you've got what? A rhino-based kit (makes either Immolator, Exorcist, maybe Repressor), that's dirt cheap to make since it includes the good old rhino base sprue, and you can charge 66 bucks for it.

A walker kit, with a penitent engine and a new unit that's basically just a weapon swap. Walker kits always sell really well, safe investment.

A jump pack kit, with the normal pistol Seraphim and a new armswap/headswap unit, as well as a couple add on bits to make a jump canoness.

And a footslogging melee unit kit, with Repentia and a new armswap/headswap unit or alternatively arco-flagellants.

Four kits, not even any clampacks. Done. Less risk than even the Genestealer Cult release, because you can so heavily multi-use the basic troop box and you can use the existing rhino sprue for the one big vehicle.

 Dr. Temujin wrote:
@dr bored: No worries, I get where you're coming from.

And yeah, it's a sad Catch-22 situation with Sisters. There's obviously support for Sisters, but GW wants to see people buy more of the current models first. But the current models are metal, old, and, most importantly, damn-near prohibitively expensive.

Not sure about the Dark Eldar thing or why they got a nice reboot, though. I'll have to ask him about that.

As my GW friend has told me before, they simply follow the money. If a faction doesn't show a lot of revenue, it won't get as much support.

The GW manager at my store said straight up "They're not doing sisters, and if they did, it'd be one unit in a box to see how well it sells and that's it." But, again, as everyone keeps saying, what do these guys know? Do they say these things to mislead or not?

the_scotsman wrote:
What's wild to me is how freakin' easy it would be.

You could make....five? units with a single kit.

You need: Three special weapons (melta, flamer, storm bolter), maybe 2 of each option.

Two heavy weapons (Multi-melta, heavy bolter), 2 of each.

10 bolters.

and a couple sets of melee weapons/pistols (bolt pistol/hand flamer, power sword, power maul, condemnor boltgun)

Make that kit, with a multitude of head swaps, and you've got Celestians, Dominions, Retributors, Battle Sisters, and a basic walking Canoness in one single box. Throw in the imagifier and the Dialogus if you include a banner arm with swappable top.

Then you've got what? A rhino-based kit (makes either Immolator, Exorcist, maybe Repressor), that's dirt cheap to make since it includes the good old rhino base sprue, and you can charge 66 bucks for it.

A walker kit, with a penitent engine and a new unit that's basically just a weapon swap. Walker kits always sell really well, safe investment.

A jump pack kit, with the normal pistol Seraphim and a new armswap/headswap unit, as well as a couple add on bits to make a jump canoness.

And a footslogging melee unit kit, with Repentia and a new armswap/headswap unit or alternatively arco-flagellants.

Four kits, not even any clampacks. Done. Less risk than even the Genestealer Cult release, because you can so heavily multi-use the basic troop box and you can use the existing rhino sprue for the one big vehicle.

Yep. You could do the immolator/exorcist in a single frame upgrade kit to the rhino, or add it to the rhino and rebox. You could do all the troops except the Seraphim and Repentia in one box, with maybe an upgrade clampack for other more specialized units with extra special weapons, standards, and whatnot. They could do the release as simply as you say, with boxes that make lots of different things, like the Mechanicus release, where everything was dual-unit boxes with weapon and head swaps.

Alas, here we are.

Even if these rumors are true, we won't know for another 3-5 months. :/

There is absolutely no reason why GW would need to sell off old metal models before releasing plastics when they could just melt down any imaginary over stock of Sisters figs and move the metal to a multitude of manufacturers who could use the material. The fact that SoB players have burned through every model in the line to make them out of stock worldwide several times in the last few years is proof that this ridiculous idea has nothing whatsoever to do with why plastic SoB haven't hit the shelves.

Holy Trinity, Don't forget the heavy flamer...

I just don't see the huge wave of rumors pushing towards a new fig release. GW already tried the one box of plastics, how did it do on the market? As far as the rumors go, they said at the beginning of 8th that everyone would be getting a codex, what ten by the end of 17? So the rumors are only pointing towards the first one of 18 having Sisters in it. GW already said they would be getting one, so I just don't see a sudden push for plastic Sisters. Saying they want to represent more women in the game also doesn't mean that plastic Sisters are imminent. Women =/= Sisters of Battle.

If expensive metal models are keeping Sisters from being FOM, I am fine with that. Plastic Sisters mean nothing to me, and 40k will do just fine without them.


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 NenkotaMoon wrote:
Who is gonna like an army they don't play and can't afford and is shown to need saving or be rather weak at times.

Have you played a SoB force in 8ed?

@dracpanzer

40k doesn't really need any of its factions except Space Marines to turn a buck. The rest of the armies in 40k are there just to provide context for the Space Marines. They don't need Imperial Guard because there are Space Marines. They don't need Eldar or Tau or Orks or Necron because there are Space Marines. If anything, Horus Heresy proved that gamers are willing to play a game with nothing but Space Marines, setting aside every other faction in the game just to play with more Space Marines and more flavors of Space Marines (that many of those HH players are begging GW to get rules for 40k).

You are right, though, they can melt that pewter down and sell it off to anyone willing to buy it off of their hands, recouping much of any loss that they would have suffered from molding the models in the first place.

However, Sisters of Battle would bring a variety to the tabletop that we haven't seen. Factions like Dark Eldar, Genestealer Cult, Adeptus Mechanicus, and even Deathwatch have all brought something new to the table that we haven't seen before, and fans have been loving it. All of these 'small unpopular factions' are critical to building the lore and variety on the table.

So that we're not all just playing a bunch of different colored Space Marines.

A relevant question here is:
Why, if they are needing to shift so much back stock, are they resupplying with more metal sisters? Surely once they ran out the first time they should have started moving over to plasric, or something else.
Personally I think the 'metal sister backlog' is just another smoke cloud, but whatever.

 master of ordinance wrote:
A relevant question here is:
Why, if they are needing to shift so much back stock, are they resupplying with more metal sisters? Surely once they ran out the first time they should have started moving over to plasric, or something else.
Personally I think the 'metal sister backlog' is just another smoke cloud, but whatever.

I agree. It really comes down to planning the release of the plastic sisters. Up until they release those sisters, they have the metal and they have the molds. As long as the molds are still in one piece, then they can keep ordering more pewter. It's a cheap metal that many miniatures companies use.

The real reason they keep restocking the metal models is because they don't yet have a release date for them in their schedule of every other faction.

But, eventually, it will happen.

---

Also, news update, Shieldwolf Miniatures did get a CnD from 'a certain company' but they believed the notices to be fake, according to their lawyers. There were other factors as well. More here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds/posts/2007256

 master of ordinance wrote:
A relevant question here is:
Why, if they are needing to shift so much back stock, are they resupplying with more metal sisters? Surely once they ran out the first time they should have started moving over to plasric, or something else.
Personally I think the 'metal sister backlog' is just another smoke cloud, but whatever.

Good question. ARE they resupplying with more metal sisters? Given that everything else moved to resin. I've read online that gw have engaged in not-so-good practices in the past (gorkamorka in other languages comes to mind). What if they ARE sitting on a massive stockpile of metal sisters?

edit: punctuation

I don't think they'd have that much of a stockpile.

You wouldn't need a big stockpile if they weren't selling. I'm genuinely curious - why would gw continue to restock an item in metal after their big shift to resin? I can't think of a plausible answer other than the obvious, and would genuinely like to hear an alternative.

drbored wrote:
The GW manager at my store said straight up "They're not doing sisters, and if they did

You can stop right here. “They don't and if they did […]” is coded “I don't have any information and I'm just giving my opinion”. And who cares about someone else's uninformed opinion unless they got at least a strong reasoning to back it up?

 Torga_DW wrote:
why would gw continue to restock an item in metal after their big shift to resin?

Well, why would they have models “temporarily out of stock” if they had big stockpiles of them?
My guess for your question is that converting the molds for resin is still expensive and not worth it for items with so low number of sales as Sisters.

Sisters of Battle has become such a long running joke at this point.
Hell it wasn't too long ago that GW basically confirmed plastic Sisters in one one their videos.
Then we got Celestine and.......nothing.

I don't believe that bollocks about bringing out new Sisters models would be a financial risk.
Bringing out new Genestealer Cult models must of been an exponentially bigger risk and that still happened.

 Torga_DW wrote:
You wouldn't need a big stockpile if they weren't selling. I'm genuinely curious - why would gw continue to restock an item in metal after their big shift to resin? I can't think of a plausible answer other than the obvious, and would genuinely like to hear an alternative.

Im 100% sure they have limited models of metal sitting around, i mean we can see that from the past and even more-so now that they dont make a large amounts of units very fast (all the out of stock units).

My Wife, me, and many friends works in large (and i mean millions of units per week) companies, and even tho they are bumping out these large numbers, they only have a few machines and 8-15 works on each one. Companies want more money, they are not going to have a machine per each faction, its more likely one for finecast and 1 or 2 for plastics. They most likely are swapping out parts for the spur injections.

I dont know for sure b.c i dont work with them, just showing my experience.

 dan2026 wrote:
Sisters of Battle has become such a long running joke at this point.
Hell it wasn't too long ago that GW basically confirmed plastic Sisters in one one their videos.
Then we got Celestine and.......nothing.

I don't believe that bollocks about bringing out new Sisters models would be a financial risk.
Bringing out new Genestealer Cult models must of been an exponentially bigger risk and that still happened.

Its still a risk tho. And its hard to get investors to take multi-risks at a time. They are most likely being held back by investors that dont know anything but 10-20 yr old financial figures based on nothing else and no knowledge of the communities wants.