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 Luciferian wrote:
I'm colorblind, but I still know that red is red and green is green even if I have trouble telling them apart.

I can't tell one shade of green from another similar shade of green. When doing highlights, it's very easy for me to end up making a model look a little more blue or yellowish than intended. It kind of sucks to spend hours working on a model and then have everybody say that they look like they are sick.

There's really nothing stopping anyone from using GW's paint methods with comparable colors from other companies.

Eh, convenience. I can get GW paints several places in town, but have to order P3 or other vendor paints online. And then I'd have to constantly cross reference the paint. Which one was supposed to be Mournfang Brown again? I'm not buying paint pots every week, but I do paint every week, so I'd rather pay a few extra cents every once in a while to have convenience all the time.

I'm never going to be a Golden Demon winner, but I do enjoy painting as a leisure activity. I'm not trying to get the maximum bang for my buck, or score great deals or anything like that. I just want to paint and I want the part where I prepare to paint to be as effortless as possible so that I keep doing it when I often would rather just tool around online and complain in forums about stupid things.

I'm much more upset with the Start Collecting boxes going up in price. There's several that I've wanted for a while and just never got around to getting. I feel in my bones that Sylvaneth and Kharadron Overlords are getting an update this year, so I really want to start some small armies with them. But rather than spacing them out a few months apart, I'm now looking at getting them both right now to save $30-$40 (that's basically the cost of a battletome).

 insaniak wrote:

 Techpriestsupport wrote:
This is why people who download gw books have no reason to feel ashamed.

Taking something you haven't paid for isn't any less wrong just because you think it's too expensive to pay for...

To be fair, 40k is very affordable if you steal it.

GW can do this kind of thing because they have the market so heavily dominated.

I assume the price rise on some of the start collecting kits is likely due to the fact there are some that people just repeatedly buy rather than the individual models due to the value. Imperial guard is a great example of this, as well as Tau.

As for paint, I won't lie, I really like GW paint. It's easy to use, there's a lot of easily accessible information on finding the right sets to use etc. As mirrored on this discussion though, the pots suck. I use a wet pallette - the pot is open for 10 second at most, yet that's enough for paint to run into the hinge, crust up and eventually squirt out when I close it. This won't change though - too distinctive a shape now and too many displays that they fit out there

Wayniac wrote:
GW paints are actually quite good, just the fact they cost more and give less than basically every other paint out there is a little bothersome since there's no reason for either of those things. There's no reason they should give 12mL for more than you can get 17/17.5mL from Vallejo/Army Painter/P3/anyone else excluding cheap craft paints which are even more for even less at a cost of overall quality.

Yes there is. More ££££ for GW. You think they care about customers? ££££££££££££ is all they care and obviously they figure they get more of that this way.

 Luciferian wrote:
I'm colorblind, but I still know that red is red and green is green even if I have trouble telling them apart. There's really nothing stopping anyone from using GW's paint methods with comparable colors from other companies.

Of course there isn't, and a friend of mine swears by Army Painter's paint system.

Some of us just happen to like the way GW does their paints* and the ecosystem they have built around them, up to and including their online presence when it comes to tutorials and instructions, especially with how they are presented. Doubly so for people who have never been interested or don't really know how to paint (like me!). Hell, I once ran into Duncan at a gaming store in Oz, thanked him and shook his hand for all the help he'd provided online, as his videos are what got me to start trying.



*Not the names. The paint names are slowed. The fact that there are paints called 'The Fang' and 'XV-88' - which is a great colour BTW - is simply inexcusable.

I cant paint for gak but the GW tutorials along with the paints helped me dip my toe in more comfortably than some other firms and with the system they use its easier than ever to copy the studio paint jobs.

20% increase on Start Collecting boxes in the USA?

Ouch.

The new prices are coming to stores along with two new Start Collecting.

There are two new Start Collecting! in the list:

Maggotkin of Nurgle
Idoneth Deepking

There are several missing:

Chaos Space Marines
Drukhari
Craftworlds

There's a few new ones on there as well - Maggotkin of Nurgle for example.

Two new SC? What am I missing? Idoneth and...?

EDIT: Maggotkin? Thought that was just demons of Nurburgring, I guess. Where’s DoK?

 Sqorgar wrote:
Two new SC? What am I missing? Idoneth and...?

Maggotkin of Nurgle.

beast_gts wrote:
There's a few new ones on there as well - Maggotkin of Nurgle for example.

Idoneth and Maggotkin are the two new ones on the list. Chaos, Drukhari, and Craftworlds are not on the list though. Could be that it is incomplete.

With these changes the boxes become okay for people new to an army, but much less attractive for those wishing to add to their forces(with a few exceptions).

So SC: Maggotkin of Nurgle are new what's the other one?

No CSM, CWE or Drukhari on there unless my eyes are going nuts.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
So SC: Maggotkin of Nurgle are new what's the other one?

Idoneth

 Eldarsif wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
So SC: Maggotkin of Nurgle are new what's the other one?

Idoneth

Well, Idoneth either. We’ll have to ask someone else.

Sorry, wrong thread...

Strike brotherhood?

I did not know that cult had star collecting

zamerion wrote:
Strike brotherhood?

I did not know that cult had star collecting

No. It's listed as T/STRIKE BROTHERHOOD which should be in reference to this...

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Eternals-Thunderstrike-Brotherhood-2018

Ouch, Scions going from €65 to €80 is painful.

Everything gets more expensive every year. I am surprised it is only limited to these few things. I get a pay rise every year, things increase in price every year (inflation and cost of living in the modern age). It balances out (if not is ebay etc).

 BrookM wrote:
Ouch, Scions going from €65 to €80 is painful.

Indeed it is. Surprising too!

Wonder if the 5man Scions will see a rebox at this point though.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Ouch, Scions going from €65 to €80 is painful.

Indeed it is. Surprising too!

Wonder if the 5man Scions will see a rebox at this point though.

Think they were always the worst start collecting box inregards to price saved etc. Hopefully

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Ouch, Scions going from €65 to €80 is painful.

Indeed it is. Surprising too!

Wonder if the 5man Scions will see a rebox at this point though.

Think they were always the worst start collecting box inregards to price saved etc. Hopefully

They're actually fairly good for savings.

It's $85USD for:
$20 Commissar(this is the anchor around this set's neck TBH)
$48 Taurox
2x $35 Scion sets

Comes out to $138.

IDK american prices I know it is $140AU but if bought individual is $168AU

While a thing like say DW is $140AU but if bought individual is $234AU

Or tau is say $236AU value for $140 etc

I just remember calculating it and thought man scions is crap savings compared.

65€ boxes going to 80€ boxes... that really hurts, yeah.

I personally think GW is shooting themselves in the foot with this move but well see.

65€ is closer to 50€ than to 100€ but 80€ isn't, and thats how most people will see it.

In AU prob different cause we already over the 100 mark but (for visual of the price), not that big deal if go from 140 to 155 for us (apart from the scions box, all others pretty sure will still save like $70 or so)
EDIT: the Scions box should have 3 units of scions to make it in line with other boxes (I know went 2 cause 10 like most others, but 10 scions are way cheaper than say 10 deathwatch marines)

zamerion wrote:

"Don't care. Got mine!"

I am actually selling my Russian army (voystrans) so thinking of buying scion army for my inquisitor force (I have the kaskans the old metal models x70) thinking of replacing, hence I looked into scions and found them wanting.